I own and love many Apple products, I also own and love many non-Apple products. Does that make me (in your mind) an Apple hater??
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Yeah, especially in the iPhone section.
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IMO you can show your love for non-Apple products without being offensive/rude/obnoxious/insulting etc... For example, it isn't acceptable to start a thread going on about why you purchased a SGS2 over the iPhone 4S. But respectfully sharing your opinion without making a big fuss is acceptable IMO.
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Only if you show your love for the non-Apple products here.
IMO you can show your love for non-Apple products without being offensive/rude/obnoxious/insulting etc... For example, it isn't acceptable to start a thread going on about why you purchased a SGS2 over the iPhone 4S. But respectfully sharing your opinion without making a big fuss is acceptable IMO.
If only that were true. I have seen many respectably started non-Apple threads get destroyed simply because they shared. Too many juveniles on this forum for it to ever be "respectful".
Go ahead and down vote me now...
Interesting topic, my thought is, as more people buy Apple products and discover it is not Windows or Andriod they seem to need a place to vent their dislikes about Apple and it ways of doing things. Lets face it, many first time Apple users, are clueless about how things are accomplished using the Mac OS. So they vent here, fine let them vent, it is only natural to get mad when something is new and foreign to an individual. You can only help them so much, if they take your advice great, if not, than they are closed-minded, a lost cause.
I work with a die-hard Windows/Andriod user who has to use a MacPro. After several months, he finally admitted the MacPro is the best computer he as ever used. It has run now for over year non-stop with the exception of software updates requiring a restart.
Some people are beyond help, so be it. They will never understand the simplicity of the OS, they are too involved with the minutia of Windows/Andriod. And can't be helped, they are blinded by Windows/Andriod ways.
I work with a die-hard Windows/Andriod user who has to use a MacPro. After several months, he finally admitted the MacPro is the best computer he as ever used. It has run now for over year non-stop with the exception of software updates requiring a restart.
Some people are beyond help, so be it. They will never understand the simplicity of the OS, they are too involved with the minutia of Windows/Andriod. And can't be helped, they are blinded by Windows/Andriod ways.
There have been paid "bashers" in internet stock forums for years. I suppose it was only time before the same strategy would be employed between corporations vying for popularity and $billion$ in business..
I have a 3,1 that I basically haven't turned off since I got except to restart and add hardware. These suckers are the Clydesdales of computers.
To throw my worthless opinion in, I think posts could be collapsed and hidden (or gradually made transparent) in relation to the number of negative votes it receives. A reader should be able to optionally re-expand these hidden posts however.
A system like that would hopefully go a little way toward fixing the poor posting habits here, and may hopefully make other users more responsible with their voting of posts also.
A longer-term approach could also be to have moderators review users who reach a particular total number of negative votes, say -500, and look at the content of their last twenty or so posts and decide whether they need a temporary ban from posting, rising to a permanent ban if necessary.
A system like that would hopefully go a little way toward fixing the poor posting habits here, and may hopefully make other users more responsible with their voting of posts also.
A longer-term approach could also be to have moderators review users who reach a particular total number of negative votes, say -500, and look at the content of their last twenty or so posts and decide whether they need a temporary ban from posting, rising to a permanent ban if necessary.
That's a terrible idea and here's why:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1315924/
A completely harmless thread and harmless posts. Yet look at the post ratings. Apparently some people have a problem with a member letting her friends here know that she's in the ER but is recovering and doing better
That's a terrible idea and here's why:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1315924/
A completely harmless thread and harmless posts. Yet look at the post ratings. Apparently some people have a problem with a member letting her friends here know that she's in the ER but is recovering and doing better
WTF? I missed that thread, been busy the last couple of days. Every post was down voted (multiple times) for no reason what so ever?
Agreed. My last 4 computers have been top-end Apple portables, but I'd never claim they're the be-all, end-all computer. There are cool designs out there, superior hardware (in terms of speed, graphics, etc), but I continue using what I do because it works for me.
And you're right: people like to think it works for me = obviously this is the best that ever was, and if you disagree with me you're insulting my personal life choices and intimating that you've come to "know" my mother in the biblical sense.
Some of the main reasons I come on here, is because of my iPhone and iPad, also Im a fan of technology in general, even though I use Windows, I watch all of Apples keynotes and read up on things about Apples releases, even OS X. I also check Windows Rumor sites, gaming sites, even Linux once in a while. However, if I see a user spreading rubbish about rival products or companies, I shall correct them. It's Mac Rumors, not the Cult of Apple. One of the reasons I keep coming back here is the unbiased, informative articles.
It also works the other way around. Some users are very pro-Apple and can't really see the other side of the table. Not everyone likes every single Apple device that is out there.
We have post reports that take care of rule violations, the voting system is completely separate. The voting system is mainly used to agree or disagree with one's post. A post with many negative votes does not mean it is against the rules, though, many people simply disagree with its content. Deleting/hiding posts based on the votes would be censorship, and I don't think anyone in our mod team (or members) would support it.
That's a terrible idea and here's why:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1315924/
A completely harmless thread and harmless posts. Yet look at the post ratings. Apparently some people have a problem with a member letting her friends here know that she's in the ER but is recovering and doing better
Now, that is a prime example of the voting system not working.
Very juvenile.
Exactly. As long as people are acting like children, the voting system should never be used to aid moderation.
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I've seen variations of this reply over and over ITT, and I don't think this is what the OP is saying.
It's not always black and white. You don't have to be a die-hard fan chanting "death to the infidels" if you choose one platform over the other, and a lot of people here cross the line between expressing their preference and insulting the preferences of others.
Also, what's up with labeling someone who wants to talk about their apple products on an apple forum a fanatic?
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I've seen variations of this reply over and over ITT, and I don't think this is what the OP is saying.
It's not always black and white. You don't have to be a die-hard fan chanting "death to the infidels" if you choose one platform over the other, and a lot of people here cross the line between expressing their preference and insulting the preferences of others.
Also, what's up with labeling someone who wants to talk about their apple products on an apple forum a fanatic?
The system I'm proposing is not intended for rule violations — the post report buttons should remain for reporting flagrant abuse. Nor would the system be censorship as nothing would be deleted or removed. The idea is that, in those cases when a post reaches below a certain threshold, it will receive less prominence compared to the other posts. Any reader would still be able to read that post if they choose but the negativity it's received is made more visually clear. It's applying the same system MR already uses for bumping high-voted posts to the front page but the other way around. I've seen this system on other forums / comment systems (one example is Joystiq.com) and it works very well in my experience. People stop responding to the trolls and go on with the discussion, rather than arguing. The threshold is low enough that you would really need to get a large amount of negative votes for your post to be affected.
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People will down vote something unpopular not because it is wrong. Just get rid of the voting system all together.
The bigger deal is ...
There are just more mindless folks on the site. And the site has increased its mindless articles as well.
The rumor mill has has also become passé
It was fun when the occasional substantial rumor was posted. But now there 3000 articles posted about the smallest most uninteresting information while at the same time we are all more aware of Apple product cycles and the cycles haven't sped up any.
We know the iPad 3 is coming and will be better and faster.
Following the rumors just isn't as fun as before. Maybe it is just me. But the novelty has worn out.
So I now rarely comment or read comments on here. I don't read the vast majority of articles. I really am only checking MR nowadays to see if Apple released a new product or a major patch. This is the first I commented in months.
There are just more mindless folks on the site. And the site has increased its mindless articles as well.
The rumor mill has has also become passé
It was fun when the occasional substantial rumor was posted. But now there 3000 articles posted about the smallest most uninteresting information while at the same time we are all more aware of Apple product cycles and the cycles haven't sped up any.
We know the iPad 3 is coming and will be better and faster.
Following the rumors just isn't as fun as before. Maybe it is just me. But the novelty has worn out.
So I now rarely comment or read comments on here. I don't read the vast majority of articles. I really am only checking MR nowadays to see if Apple released a new product or a major patch. This is the first I commented in months.