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Why Apple Should Be Scared
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The videos of it so far should be representative of the features of the OS pretty well. I don't know what more you really want. The OS so far looks very intriguing and looks like it has implemented proper multitasking much better than the iPad did. Whereas Apple just took iOS and supersized it, it looks like Google actually did a complete tablet overhaul for Android and it's looking really slick. I'm probably never going to get a chance to try it in a store here in Canada but if you don't see how I'm already making an opinion about Honeycomb, maybe you haven't seen many videos of it so far.
Let's dissect this little slideshow image, shall we?
Browsing - no Flash, horrible HTML5 performance, Javascript is unstable as hell, sites that rely on mouse hover can go to hell on the iPad.
Email - been crashing on me when I get a ton of new email but maybe I just need a restore.
Photos - the only thing it does properly. It's excellent for Photos and on-the-go slideshows. Bonus points for being able to drag and drop without iTunes.
Video - format limitations mean I have to keep converting all the videos I want to watch on the iPad. It's generally rubbish for videos if you have another source than iTunes.
Music - can't take music off of it, have to deal with iTunes (which is hell on software earth), many other dumb limitations. Surprisingly the format support isn't that bad, but there's no custom equalizer and you can't download music to your iPod library from the iPad (unless you are fine with buying from iTunes.)
Games - 256MB of RAM means games are generally pretty gimped on this thing. There have been a few hits but certainly nothing that's going to steal me away from a dedicated handheld like the PSP or so on (especially the lack of hardware controls).
eBooks - used to be good until Apple decided to change the rules again and screw over Amazon by making it have to shell out 30% of its profits to Apple via in-app purchases.
You can probably see how the experience has been going downhill. I rely heavily on video content and interactive sites. No Flash really kills it. I rely on being able to customize. This whole 'Apple way or highway' approach really kills it.
It's entirely subjective, of course.
Anyone that wants to can jailbreak. That's not what apple should focus on. What apple should focus on is user experience for the average user, and they have. So far, no one has beaten either the iphone or the ipad at that. Lots of "we'll beat you with the next version" out there, but the ipad's next version is still due soon too...
I think it'd be even better if Steve just adds the features that people want without them having to hack their devices. Jailbreaking usually slows down the device a bit with each tweak you add. How awesome it would be to be able to do that officially? And I mean things like: lockscreen widgets, homescreen widgets (even updating icons..the weather isn't always 73 degrees F), custom equalizer, system tools that have access to more APIs and more of the device's iPod library (you know they won't do that one, it would threaten their iTunes store), etc.
I'm going to leave the rest of your post as is, because they are opinions on what you'd like to do with a device and I'm not sure opinions can be changed or thrown against each other.
Your opinions are legitimate, and they cause you dissatisfaction when using an iPad. I understand that, and it's ok.
But for:
Steve's iPad keynote is a very long presentation on every aspect of the device and its functionality. The iOS4 advance press conference is again doing the same thing: detailed analysis of features and how they work.
I've seen shots here and there of Honeycomb which show us features that will be on iOS soon (like the 3D maps), or ones that are not shown for any length of time.
I really doubt you could tell us, for example, how you scroll through the list of books (looks like an arc menu - what happens when you have 500 books? Seems like a shelf would be better here), or exactly how the multitasking is handled from a gesture and touch interface point of view.
You haven't used the device. Your opinion isn't a pro-device opinion, it's an anti-iPad opinion. I get that, but do you see how it might make it difficult to put your point across?
Motorola had a superbowl slot today for an ad. They decided to use this time to:
1. rip on people with white earphones
2. Show us nothing about what the device can do
I think that's all anyone is saying here about Android alternates. Talk without substance. Show us the products, with real gadget blog demos and reviews, and we can have a conversation.
Until then it's just pro-Apple and anti-Apple, and all there is is Apple.
Your opinions are legitimate, and they cause you dissatisfaction when using an iPad. I understand that, and it's ok.
But for:
Steve's iPad keynote is a very long presentation on every aspect of the device and its functionality. The iOS4 advance press conference is again doing the same thing: detailed analysis of features and how they work.
I've seen shots here and there of Honeycomb which show us features that will be on iOS soon (like the 3D maps), or ones that are not shown for any length of time.
I really doubt you could tell us, for example, how you scroll through the list of books (looks like an arc menu - what happens when you have 500 books? Seems like a shelf would be better here), or exactly how the multitasking is handled from a gesture and touch interface point of view.
You haven't used the device. Your opinion isn't a pro-device opinion, it's an anti-iPad opinion. I get that, but do you see how it might make it difficult to put your point across?
Motorola had a superbowl slot today for an ad. They decided to use this time to:
1. rip on people with white earphones
2. Show us nothing about what the device can do
I think that's all anyone is saying here about Android alternates. Talk without substance. Show us the products, with real gadget blog demos and reviews, and we can have a conversation.
Until then it's just pro-Apple and anti-Apple, and all there is is Apple.
Motorola has indeed been quite childish (reminds me of Apple's Mac ad campaign) and their ads have absolutely nothing to do with the devices they're trying to sell. What I've seen from videos is a limited view of Honeycomb, but it convinced me that Google can pull it together after all and form together a good OS. I've always hated Android up till Honeycomb. Gingerbread was just a reskin, and the old thing still applies: either get a Nexus S or wait a year for the update that might not come. I think the push they're making here with Honeycomb is one of many to ensure a consistent experience across all devices. Fragmentation is inevitable with openness, but maybe developers can learn to deal with it as developers have dealt with Windows fragmentation.
I'm not really entirely anti-iPad. There are some things it can do that make it quite different from the competition. For example, people are drooling over the Galaxy Tab? It's a pretty sluggish experience compared to the iPad and the apps you can get for it are still phone apps. I really wanted the Tab to succeed so that Apple can push for a better iPad experience but the Tab didn't at all. That's why I'm happy about Honeycomb and what it means. Not only are there alternatives now, but the competition forces Apple to get off its ass and start making the iPad better. If alternatives never came, we'd still be stuck with iPhone as we knew it in 2007.
Thanks for understanding my opinions though. It's rare around these parts.
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Android lovers will keep loving android be it in the form of a smartphone or tablet and apple fanboys will keep admiring and loving the flawless iphone and ipad experience.Thanks.
Android lovers will keep loving android be it in the form of a smartphone or tablet and apple fanboys will keep admiring and loving the flawless iphone and ipad experience.Thanks.
you know you can do it....they have the calendar update...maybe bc it only needs to do it once a day?
Any links to flash performance on this device?
I really don't care what the device has if the functionality of it sucks.
Apple should be scared of HP's offerings much in the same way that I was scared when the school bully said "I'm going to kick your a$$ on the playground after school - in about 6-8 months."
I do not think Android Honeycomb can scare iOS 4.0, 5.0 even less.
Just remember that everyone is comparing a future OS to an OS released in the past.
Google is just trying to brain wash you with their videos with music and animations and effects that distract you from what you really need. And in reality, it is the same OS with a nice background and 3 widgets that are nice to look at but their functionality is limited.
Now I am not saying these are bad, I am just saying that it is not a great thing, I mean if you want to see if you got mail, the mail icon in iOS tells you if you have news mails, it is as simple as that. And by just tapping once you can see the whole mail and not just the title.
Apple always shows you the products as it is, you never get disappointed but you might get surprised. That is what I like about them, they get to the point.
And do not think I am obsessed with Apple because I am also open to other options.
Just remember that everyone is comparing a future OS to an OS released in the past.
Google is just trying to brain wash you with their videos with music and animations and effects that distract you from what you really need. And in reality, it is the same OS with a nice background and 3 widgets that are nice to look at but their functionality is limited.
Now I am not saying these are bad, I am just saying that it is not a great thing, I mean if you want to see if you got mail, the mail icon in iOS tells you if you have news mails, it is as simple as that. And by just tapping once you can see the whole mail and not just the title.
Apple always shows you the products as it is, you never get disappointed but you might get surprised. That is what I like about them, they get to the point.
And do not think I am obsessed with Apple because I am also open to other options.
According to HP, the tablet market could reach $160B. That alone should have Apple and other companies scrambling. You look at the smart phones that are Android based and they are selling extremely well. As someone mentioned already, imagine what Android based tablets could do. Not the cheap inferior ones but a full fledged tablet packed with the latest hardware and an intuitive OS. The Motorola tablet looks impressive and the HP tablet looks even more impressive. I can't wait to see these tablets in person and try them out. Before Motorola and HP announced their tablets, the iPad was king. Now there's serious competition coming this year. I'm selling off my iPad and waiting to see what I will get next. Apple may not be the clear cut winner this round.
Also I'm hearing about an "iPad 3" release. Wouldn't it be interesting if Apple decides to release a 7" iPad. That's if there is another iPad release after the iPad 2. I can't see Steve releasing another iPad after the 2nd in the same year especially with his attitude of if it's not perfect then it won't be released. Actually it wouldn't be perfect, I guess it would be close to "we released an inferior product here's the iPad 3." Oh here's a case for your troubles.
Also I'm hearing about an "iPad 3" release. Wouldn't it be interesting if Apple decides to release a 7" iPad. That's if there is another iPad release after the iPad 2. I can't see Steve releasing another iPad after the 2nd in the same year especially with his attitude of if it's not perfect then it won't be released. Actually it wouldn't be perfect, I guess it would be close to "we released an inferior product here's the iPad 3." Oh here's a case for your troubles.