Macs have always been pricey, but now they're just over-priced. Three thousand dollars. That is what I paid for my 17" ages ago. Not only that, now you need to spend about 100 dollars in dongles/adapters and/or $200 in a docking station. You can't upgrade the RAM or SSD because it's not removable, so to future proof yourself you have to max yourself out, or get external drives which = more money. Furthermore they charge a premium in upgrades. To upgrade from 500GB to 1TB Apple charges $400. Dell's XPS 15" is a $200 charge ... and Dell is using Kaby Lake processor. I just bought my mom a replacement for her 2006 Mac mini (which still runs!). I wanted to get a new mini but I couldn't justify $849 just to get decent amount of soldered in RAM on a 3 year old machine. I bought an Acer - my first PC in 11 years. A sad day indeed. It's not so much that they're expensive, I have the money socked aside. The problem is they're awful value and overpriced now. I hope June 5 will turn everything around.