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They could be using a 32GB chip on either side of the board to save space. That would give the new phone up to a 64GB capacity without using 64GB chips. And when prices come down, they can use one 64GB chip for the same effect. Then they can use two 64GB chips for a 128GB iPhone next year.

It looks like both the Gizmodo phone and Vietnam phone had shields over some components (all in the Gizmodo phones case), so that would be hidden.

Not if they plan on fitting in the chips for a cellular radio.

Pay attention.....3 generations of iPhones have all had a SINGLE NAND CHIP. There's no reason to assume or even guess that they may change that. The preponderance of evidence points against it.
 
Not if they plan on fitting in the chips for a cellular radio.

Pay attention.....3 generations of iPhones have all had a SINGLE NAND CHIP. There's no reason to assume or even guess that they may change that. The preponderance of evidence points against it.

Pay attention. This is pretty much a complete redesign, the previous iterations were not. You don't know what is where on the board.
 
Pay attention. This is pretty much a complete redesign, the previous iterations were not. You don't know what is where on the board.

It's unlikely they'll change the circuit though. Designers and engineers prefer to do things in multiple stages.
 
Pay attention. This is pretty much a complete redesign, the previous iterations were not. You don't know what is where on the board.

Yes, but I know what chips need to go in there and the general size of each.

Maybe you'll find this helpful. Pay close attention to the size of the NAND. It hasn't changed. The process they use to size it down goes into stuffing more storage in the same size package, getting better performance, and a higher yield.

http://www.phonewreck.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Logic11.jpg

Compare to this:
http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/More-iPhone-4G-Images-Video-3.jpg
 
Well at the moment the price difference between the 16 and 32 gig 3GS is $100, when the difference in price for the NAND chips is nothing near that. So long as the 64 gig NAND chips cost less than $100 a unit I don't see why the cost would be prohibitive (except Apple are clearly making much more profit from those of us who buy the bigger storage because they inflate the cost).

Mass production of the new chips has begun at the start of the year and Toshiba were expecting to churn out 3 million units a month.
 
Well at the moment the price difference between the 16 and 32 gig 3GS is $100, when the difference in price for the NAND chips is nothing near that. So long as the 64 gig NAND chips cost less than $100 a unit I don't see why the cost would be prohibitive (except Apple are clearly making much more profit from those of us who buy the bigger storage because they inflate the cost).

Mass production of the new chips has begun at the start of the year and Toshiba were expecting to churn out 3 million units a month.

The point is that the price difference for NAND memory between last year and this year is no different. So arguably the cost for a 32GB phone would still be what it is today. So to build a 64 GB phone would cost more and therefore would have to be sold for more.
 
It's unlikely they'll change the circuit though. Designers and engineers prefer to do things in multiple stages.

Yes, but engineers love efficiency. If they can find a way to save space, I'm
sure they and Apple would love it. Extra space may equal extra storage.

Yes, but I know what chips need to go in there and the general size of each.

Maybe you'll find this helpful. Pay close attention to the size of the NAND. It hasn't changed. The process they use to size it down goes into stuffing more storage in the same size package, getting better performance, and a higher yield.

http://www.phonewreck.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Logic11.jpg

Compare to this:
http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/More-iPhone-4G-Images-Video-3.jpg

Do you know the company, model and physical size of all the chips in the new phone?
 
Yes, but engineers love efficiency. If they can find a way to save space, I'm
sure they and Apple would love it. Extra space may equal extra storage.



Do you know the company, model and physical size of all the chips in the new phone?

Yeah, I got my 3Gs in parts in front of me.
 
Yes, but engineers love efficiency. If they can find a way to save space, I'm
sure they and Apple would love it. Extra space may equal extra storage.



Do you know the company, model and physical size of all the chips in the new phone?

The phone appears to be smaller, and if I knew the magnification and other things of the image from Gizmodo, I would be able to work it out.

How big is the A4 chip? The NAND chips can be around this size. Ok, just becuase there's more space, the extra circuitry will need to permit as well.
 
The phone appears to be smaller, and if I knew the magnification and other things of the image from Gizmodo, I would be able to work it out.

How big is the A4 chip? The NAND chips can be around this size. Ok, just becuase there's more space, the extra circuitry will need to permit as well.

Yeah, but there's not more space. There's less.
 
3GS ≠ 4th Gen

And your point? The largest chip in the phone is the NAND. They could size down all the other chips and still not make enough space.

Trust me when I say that I hope I'm wrong, I'll be in line to get a 64GB phone if it happens and isn't $400. But based on the research I've done, I don't expect it.
 
And? Go back and see what I asked him.
I asked if he knew what company, model and physical size the chips were in the 4th gen.

I know what you asked him.

The fact that it is smaller, has a larger battery and probably an A4, which is slightly bigger than the current A8 means that there is less space.
 
I don't see them getting rid of the $199 price point when the 4G/HD comes out.

Right, that will be a 16 GB 4G model. And a 3Gs will take the $99 price point.

The additional hardware in the 4G will justify the price difference.
 
Right, that will be a 16 GB 4G model. And a 3Gs will take the $99 price point.

The additional hardware in the 4G will justify the price difference.

Ah yes that's true about the 16 GB.

I hope they do a 64 GB model, there are definitely people that would pay more for more space.
 
Funny how everyone I talk to in the apple lines say they want to get as much space as possible. I have never gone over 10GB on my 16GB 3GS I had.
 
Funny how everyone I talk to in the apple lines say they want to get as much space as possible. I have never gone over 10GB on my 16GB 3GS I had.

That's how I use my 16 GB iPad. Solely for apps, video, books, etc.

I won't be able to fit my 150+ GB of music on my iPhone any time soon, so I just swap out whatever I'm listening to the most.
 
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