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Why aren't Apple's iPhone apps optional?

Spaz, I happen to agree with you that a non-jailbreak option could be a good idea for "advanced users," but I have a serious question for you.

Do you ever start any positive threads?

I'm serious: it seems like all you do is complain, bitch and moan. Are you that unhappy with it, are you highlighting the negative (in an attempt) to improve the iPhone, or are you just a negative person?
 
mrblack927 said:
There is, it's called jailbreaking.

I consider myself an advanced user and I find that jailbreaking is a perfectly acceptable solution. I can remove any programs I want, customize my colors and styles (springboard wallpaper:) ) put 5 icons in the dock, etc...

There's very little risk anymore, and if you ever need apple support, a quick restore and you're golden.
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Indeed, my 3G is jailbroken, however, not the 3G S (obviously.)

The point is, the people that only want to remove certain apps, shouldn't be forced to jb to do so.
 
mac 2005 said:
I think the real question is why this person hasn't been awarded Humanitarian of the Year!
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That is definitely the real question, but saved for a future time and thread. I'll be posting all my great traits and deeds that I've done, be sure to read them.
 
I guess the same reason the Start button in Windows isn't optional - Apple wants to be sure every user has a certain feature set, no matter what.

Besides ... I'd hate to see all the "OMG! I thought the iPhone did stocks/voice recording/etc. ?! Why can't mine??" threads.
 
jrotunda85 said:
Apple’s Weather app blows, I noticed on many occasions where it’s had incorrect temperatures or forecasts for different areas. I’ve used Weatherbug for a few months and it seems to be pretty solid.
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The weather app gets even more annoying. If you press the button that launches Safari to get a more detailed forecast from Yahoo, a pop-up within Safari will prompt you to set your default search engine to Yahoo.

I dunno how many times I've accidentally hit yes, and had to dig through the Safari settings to change it back to Google.

The most annoying app of them all is contacts. What's it for? It does the same thing as the phone icon.
 
cmaier said:
Apple would be insane to allow them to be disabled. Zillions of electronic neophytes would accidentally remove them and spend all day calling support and bashing apple for "losing my icons."
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And yet their CS hasn't yet been engulfed in a wave of people screaming after they first discovered what happened if they held down an app then pressed that little cross on the corner of the wiggling logo.

It should just be set up the same way. You can delete it from the phone like any other app, and add it back via the App store or iTunes just like any other app.

jaw04005 said:
The most annoying app of them all is contacts. What's it for? It does the same thing as the phone icon.
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I see why it's annoying, but I never use contacts in the phone app. I have about 10 favourites listed, which is what I see when I open the phone app. If I'm calling anyone not on my favourites I open it from contacts, it's a button push less and just seems more obvious to me. (Maybe 'cause my old phone was a similar set up)

contacts>name>number

phone>contacts>name>number


I also want to be able to delete Apple's apps. Happily enough, I jailbreak.
 
TheSpaz said:
I didn't want this to be a jailbreaking thread.

I just think Apple should allow us to decide which Apple apps we want on our iPhones. There's already getting to be too many apps on it as it is. The funny thing is... you can disable Safari, but you can't disable Stocks and Weather... go figure.

Right now I have a page and a half of apps. I would like to reduce it down to 1 page.
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Okay, well, what do you want us to do about it, then?

Your thoughts have been noted. What else is there to say? :confused:
 
instaxgirl said:
And yet their CS hasn't yet been engulfed in a wave of people screaming after they first discovered what happened if they held down an app then pressed that little cross on the corner of the wiggling logo.

It should just be set up the same way. You can delete it from the phone like any other app, and add it back via the App store or iTunes just like any other app.



I see why it's annoying, but I never use contacts in the phone app. I have about 10 favourites listed, which is what I see when I open the phone app. If I'm calling anyone not on my favourites I open it from contacts, it's a button push less and just seems more obvious to me. (Maybe 'cause my old phone was a similar set up)

contacts>name>number

phone>contacts>name>number


I also want to be able to delete Apple's apps. Happily enough, I jailbreak.
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To your Contacts.app argument. The Phone app is ALWAYS running, meaning you'll save time that you'd be waiting for Contacts.app to startup. The second you open Phone, it's running... there's no waiting. I just tried it. Besides, if you leave it on the Contacts tab in Phone, the next time you launch it again, it will still be on Contacts.
 
TheSpaz said:
The thing is... I don't wanna have 11 pages of Apps... that's why I want to get rid of them in the first place. This way, I could have possibly 1 page of apps that I always use instead of having 2 pages of apps that contain apps that I'll never launch.
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Why don't you make one page of apps that you will always use and put all the apps that you will never use on page 2? Then ignore page 2.

Problem solved. :)
 
fabian9 said:
Why don't you make one page of apps that you will always use and put all the apps that you will never use on page 2? Then ignore page 2.

Problem solved. :)
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You don't understand. I don't want to ignore a second page... I want to get rid of my second page.
 
The whole thing makes me believe I am dealing with Microsoft.

Somehow I got youtube not to show up, but I think that is more of a bug then anything as I just can't figure where it went.
 
TheSpaz said:
To your Contacts.app argument. The Phone app is ALWAYS running, meaning you'll save time that you'd be waiting for Contacts.app to startup. The second you open Phone, it's running... there's no waiting. I just tried it. Besides, if you leave it on the Contacts tab in Phone, the next time you launch it again, it will still be on Contacts.
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I personally think phone.app should only list contacts that have phone numbers. That would instantly make contacts.app more useful. Plus it would make more sense. Just like mail.app should only show contacts that have email addresses and maps.app should only show contacts that have addresses (which I believe it technically does).
 
iphone.aggie said:
are you worried about the space taken up by the app on the iphone hard drive?
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Not at all. It's just a personal preference to have very few apps and to only have the apps that I use. Why have an icon there if I never touch it?

The iPhone doesn't have a hard drive by the way... It has a NAND flash drive.
 
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SeanMcC said:
d wade said:
please, let's find more things to complain about.
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My tooth has been sore for the past few days.
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That SO made my day! :D
 
I think allowing users to delete default apps would cause more problems than it would solve, but there should definitely be an option to hide them.

Maybe when somebody clicks the 'x' in the home screen edit mode, the app could be added to a list somewhere in the settings where it can be re-added to the home screen later if the user so wishes.
 
TheSpaz said:
Not at all. It's just a personal preference to have very few apps and to only have the apps that I use. Why have an icon there if I never touch it?

The iPhone doesn't have a hard drive by the way... It has a NAND flash drive.
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Really?? seriously?? C'mon you KNEW what he meant... Gawd, I hate arguments over semantics.
 
icurbyou said:
I agree.. I would delete STOCKS immediately. How many people really even utilize that? 1 out of every 50?

I can say not one of my friends, family members, or co-workers play the stocks that I am aware of. Not to say people dont use the app - I just don't see that high of a demand to result in making it "undeletable".

Give us the option apple!
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Well.. I may be one of those 1 out of 50.. but I use the stock app for news I don't get from bloomberg, or E*trade, or WSJ, or Dailyfinance (AOL). Interestingly enough, it does produce, on occasion different news stories. This is what I use my phone for. I am not always at a computer and able to perform market research, so I use my phone for this. Granted, I'm probably in the minority..

Still.. I see your point, most people will not use this.
 
TheSpaz said:
Not at all. It's just a personal preference to have very few apps and to only have the apps that I use. Why have an icon there if I never touch it?

The iPhone doesn't have a hard drive by the way... It has a NAND flash drive.
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Like I said earlier, just make the 11 pages and dump them off to the 12th page. You don't need to have 11 pages full of apps, just make 11 pages (is that clear?). Then you won't see whatever you want to dump, unless you use spotlight.
 
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