And you know this because you have inside knowledge of the technology?
I expect that this assistant work in other languages than English
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And you know this because you have inside knowledge of the technology?
I expect that this assistant work in other languages than English
Eh, most fanboys were trying to excuse it by saying 3G was too unreliable.
4G availability is not low, there's a world outside the US where 4G is much further ahead.
And as for the battery, I don't agree that makes it useless. It drains battery, but it's all relative to what you compare to. Any 3G phone drains battery like there's no tomorrow compared to a GSM only phone. Does that make 3G useless because I can't go 2 weeks without charging the phone?
That's not my experience, at all. Let's just leave it at that
Fair enough, I wasn't referring to malware and viruses but legitimate apps which are pure junk (I though't this was what you were talking about). Apple don't mind letting these through.
Really? It seems to me that you are remembering what you want to remember. I remember lots and lots of people complaining about the lack of 3G. Many people were willing to overlook that shortfall because they got other things in return. But lack of 3G was the #1 complaint. Hell, even sales of the iPhone 3G support that, since that's when the sales really took off.
I'm in Finland, 4G is available in very limited quantities. I don't think that 4G is anywhere near as available as 3G is, anywhere on the planet.
If the phone is dead because of drained battery, it's pretty useless, no? The rant I linked to says that he gets 3-5 hours on LTE, that's just pathetic.
Can you go through the day without recharging? HTC Thunderbolt gets about 3-5 hours of use on 4G. Yeah, that's pretty useless. And I heard that you can't actually turn 4G off, is that still the case? At least on the iPhone you can disable 3G if you want to save battery.
Maybe you just have exceptionally low standards, like Android-users usually have. I remember one acquitance of mine raving how smooth the Android-UI is. He had never tried an iPhone or iPod touch. So I tested it, and was dismayeed at the lag and jerkiness. To him it was the bees knees (his previous phone was Symbian). To me it was utter crap because I had grown accustomed to something a lot niced and smoother.
Of course there are crappy apps available for the iPhone. It's very hard to make a judgement-call on something like how good (or bad) an app is. Some user might like something, and another might hate it. But actually malicious apps are a widespread phenomena on Android, and not as much on iOS.
Why people like you always insult the people that doesn't have the products you like?
I have had a 3G, a 3GS and my brother has an iPhone 4 and the situation about lag in Android is not the crap you say.
Why exageratte the things to make a point? It only lessen your credibility.
So you too admit that there is lag? Well, thanks for supporting my position. And yes, to some people that lag might be acceptable. And that means that they have lower standards. They are willing to accept shortcomings that other people are not. Now, how sould I phrase that in order to not "insult" people?
No, I don't support your opinion. You hjave said thatthere is a lot of lag making it unusable and no, this is not true. the lag is minimal and in certain situations like changing homescreens, nothing more so when you're saying that the lag is abismal and is crap and people which uses those devices have lower standards is insulting
So there is a lag? And maybe the reason the lag is "minimal" because modern Android-phones have about twice the RAM as an iPhone and faster CPU's. And still they have lag while the iPhone does not...
Like I said, to some people that lag might be acceptable. Not to me. I tried zooming in and out on a Galaxy tab. It was laggy and jerky. I found it extremely frustrating. Some people might be fine with it, I'm not. If you are fine with it, great. Good for you. It means that you have lower standards on this thing than I do. And I'm sorry if saying that aloud insults you. But it would be the truth. I don't know how to say it without insulting you.
Or should I pretend that we have same standards, or that you have higher standards as I do, even though you are willing to tolerate lag in the UI, whereas I'm not?
But the iphone 4 also laggy sometime
like scroll in a heavy webpage, open too many tab in safari
flip through homescreen when have to some app in background take too much memory (safari, mail, game, etc...)
rapid open and switch between multiple apps
If you really try, you can make iPhone lag. But you don't even have to try it on Android. Just switch homescreens or zoom in on a webpage. Normal everyday things.
No, is no normal everyday things. Galaxy S, Galaxy SII, Nexus One, Galaxy Tab 10.1, etc only lags with webpages with a lot of Flash ads activated.
Not true every android phone lags even without browser usage. I think evangelion is right... You are simply able to ignore or tolerate the lag but that doesn't mean everyone can or has to
It sure was in every device I have tried so far.
First we are told how iOS sucks because it doesn't have Flash, and how Android is so great because it has it. And then we find out that Flash just makes browsing crappy on Android. Well isn't that just super...
I don't really try, it just occur sometime during daily usage.
I already try some old android phone, htc desire, motorola droid and yes, it laggy like you said, pitch to zoom, scroll, etc....
But the next like htc desire hd is ok, nothing unusable about it. And the later like galaxy s2, htc sensation is definitely great, webpage load faster/smoother than iphone 4.
I still prefer my iphone 4 because personal taste but in my opinion some android smartphone is great and comparable with the iphone line.
Sorry for my english
I do not dispute that at all, I'm saying that all the Apple fanboys (like you, the ones who always make excuses for whatever Apple does and would never dream of criticizing anything Apple does) were excusing it that way.
Ofcourse not, but it's certainly as available as 3G was at one point in time. It's getting better, but the only way companies are going to invest money in the infrastructure is if people actually start using it. The deployment wont continue if everyone just keeps waiting til it's perfect.
Atleast they're investing in future technology. If everyone did like Apple and just held off until the technology was matured enough nothing would happen.
Bad, but not useless. Can you go through the weekend without charging an iPhone? No, the iPhone barely makes 24h. Where do you draw this arbitrary but apperently razor sharp line between useless (Thunderbolt) and awesome (iphone)?
I have absolutely no idea if you can turn off 4G on Thunderbolt
Nice insult, even though you know nothing about me. I have supported iOS devices so I have a fairly extensive experience with them. In my current job I also use both Android and iOS so I'm fully capable of comparing them. The lag almost never occurs on current Android phones, and I can't say I never experience lag on an iPhone, it happens from time to time.
You should know that I don't even use neither iOS nor Android on my private phone
The issue on Android is not as bad as you're implying
No one has ever said that Flash doesn't use alot of resources, but the point is choice. Android gives the choice of using Flash, Apple doesn't. I personally hope Flash dies as soon as possible, but that's no reason for not supporting it while it's still widespread
They stay getting people to upgrade for one feature. It's crazy because most people won't use it.
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My SGSII has not lagged yet and I have flash enabled. The older android phones had issues but the dual core one blaze through it.
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Does not happen on the SGSII. Before they did not use the GFX chip to render the home screen. Now they do and it does not lag at all.
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My SGSII has not lagged yet and I have flash enabled. The older android phones had issues but the dual core one blaze through it.
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Does not happen on the SGSII. Before they did not use the GFX chip to render the home screen. Now they do and it does not lag at all.
so sexy, I like how this works
hopefully it works well with the iPhone 4 because I probably won't upgrade if there isn't a redesign
hopefully it works well with the iPhone 4 because I probably won't upgrade if there isn't a redesign
No, you're putting words into his mouth. Often, you need something that is sub-optimal, such as a car, when walking everywhere is obviously the better choice for the environment.
Oh, you mean you were talking about speed at getting somewhere? Well in that case, he was talking about ability to browse the full web.
See how it goes both ways bro?
Where is this mythical Android phone that "blaze" through Flash? The Galaxy 2 I've tried certainly wasn't it.
All the Android phones that lagged heavily when I tried heavy Flash sites on them, including SGS2, Atrix, LG 2X, etc. Not to mention the PlayBook I use which also lags heavily with Flash.
Already using this today in Windows Phone 7.5. This is nothing new. Sorry Apple late to the show. Call it your own, when its not.
If I use this it would be most likey when I'm laying down in my bed..now only if we can swipe/pinch and zoom with our eyes
So you were wrong. I'd say VERY wrong. The Assistant can be useful for a single task (which I still find gimmicky) - but it's not nearly as "amazing" as you tried to paint it.
question does this have speech to text capability sms or what? I seen not one mention of that...if not so much for it being all that and a bag of chips
I wasn't making excuses for them. Sure, having 3G in the very first iPhone might have caused other issues (like short battery-life). But that doesn't change the fact that it was a real shortcoming. And sales of iPhones support that assertion.
And I don't think that Apple is infallible and incapable of error. I have routinely clashed with the ultra-fanboys here who basically worship Apple. Yes, I think Apple makes the best gear in the market, and their design appeals to me. But I don't worship them. I dislike the ultra-fanboys almost as much as I dislike the haters who insist on spending their time on Apple-related forums, just so they could whine about Apple and annoy people. Talk about pointless life.
4G would be rolled out in any case, just like GSM and 3G was rolled out before it. It would be dumb to implement 4G if it made the actual product worse. Like, cutting the battery-life down to few hours.
So Apple should add half-baked technology in to their products? If they did that, their products would be crummy, and thatäs just not what Apple does.
Going through one day is the key, IMO. Because you can recharge it during the night. It's unreasonable to expect people to recharge their phones in the middle of the day. That would mean that you had to carry both the phone AND the charger. And iPhone manages one day just fine. My wife seems to recharge her iPhone 4 every other day or so, and she uses the device quite frequently (music, phone-calls, web-browsing, occasional Facetime-call with her sister...).
It's not an insult. If you are willing to tolerate more lag and unpolished bits, it means that you have lower standards on this thing than I do. I probably have lower standards than you do in some other things.
Sure, you can make iPhone lag if you really try to. But that's just it: Android lags whether you try to make it so or not.
Neither do I.
If you are willing to tolerate the shortcomings, sure. I'm not.
If you wish for Flash to die, then the best way to achieve that is to drop support for it. Flash is the bane of the internet, and it needs to be killed.