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Why did Apple choose a tall screen instead of remaining with same proportions?
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US date format. September 12 is the rumored dated for the iPhone launch event.
So basically here the benefit of the longer screen is more portrait space where as the 3:2 model has more landscape space.
Either way, 1) People are still going to buy it. A majority of people complaining about it will buy it anyways.
2) Go use a Droid X/X2. That's essentially the same. Higher than it is wide. (854 x 480). REALLY good screen size that works REALLY well.
3) Why are you judging it so early? Have you used the phone yet? So you know exactly what it's like to use it?
"What are the complainers thinking?" is what I'm pondering. I mean, aside from thinking that a mass-produced product should cowtow to their specific preferences regardless of the design decisions that Apple's designers have reached. One person or even one group's inability to discern a reason doesn't mean that one or more do not exist. People really should wait until release to criticize but I know that's asking far too much of the armchair experts.
Any design change is going to upset some people. If it REALLY bothers you that much there are other products with screen sizes and aspect ratios that might suit you better. Griping here doesn't accomplish anything. If you're really bothered by it then don't buy it. If sales are impacted enough then even Apple will respond.
tl;dr answer: It's the internets.
As always, consider the source.
So basically here the benefit of the longer screen is more portrait space where as the 3:2 model has more landscape space.
Either way, 1) People are still going to buy it. A majority of people complaining about it will buy it anyways.
2) Go use a Droid X/X2. That's essentially the same. Higher than it is wide. (854 x 480). REALLY good screen size that works REALLY well.
3) Why are you judging it so early? Have you used the phone yet? So you know exactly what it's like to use it?
I finally saw a GS3 in person yesterday (which is 16:9)... I do not mind changing the aspect ratio of the iPhone... (also, for the 5 seconds I had it in my hand, I could feel how much it improved over the GS2)
But... I do not get the point of setting up a phone's screen so HD video shows up good. The screen is tiny, how does that feature have so much weight on the aspect ratio for a phone?
The reason I am judging it early is this... It just feels like a cop out way to give us a bigger screen. I want to be able to read it easier, I do not want to have to zoom in as much as I need to sometimes. I am fine with the amount of content the phone shows at one time, I just want the content to be larger.
I will probably buy the new phone because I love how all of my devices mesh together so nicely. Also, I gave Android a 6 month run with the GS2 as my work phone, and I wasn't a fan.
Bigger screen does not necessarily mean larger content. The size of the content is mostly dependent on the developer, with the obvious exceptions of picture and movies.
If you want the content to be easier to read, there are many different solutions on the iPhone depending on the type of content. Reader, accessibility settings, tap to zoom, etc.
nope.
In these examples (can they be representative?),
the 3:2 4" screen appears superior over the 16:9 4" in every cases:
. in the portrait+desktop picture, 41% more content compared to 44% more isn't much of a difference, AND, basing on the last picture of text only, it appears the same quantity of text would probably be displayed in both areas (maybe even more in the 3:2 screen because of the larger width allowing a better word repartition).
. a wider and taller area AND a taller only area each have different benefits
. a larger keyboard in portrait mode could be welcome
. in landscape+keyboard, the 3:2 4" is obviously superior
. 17 lines on the 3:2 screen (of this [english] text, in this font, in this size) are necessary to display the 19 lines of text displayed on the 16:9 screen, and you get one more line in bonus
These pictures are taken out of context, and were used in this discussion, and commented: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1414160/ (the pictures appear on page 4)
not going to make again the discussion here / you can post in that thread for more comments
I don't get this forum way to obfuscate discussions, allowing an impossible amount of threads always repeating the same things.
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Making it wider than taller won't make it larger. They're both 4 inches, except one you see more in portrait and the other you see more in landscape. You're still going to see the same amount and the content is still going to be the same size.
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Ahh okay I see now. The 3:2 model looks so awkward to hold however.
Again, if you look at the Droid X you can see how this elongated screen can be pulled off successfully.
And again, at the end of the day, people are still going to buy it regardless.
i was editing while you answered, sorry.
well, you don't seem to understand.
the 3:2 4" screen would be about 6 mm wider than the screen on the iPhone 4S
the iPhone 3GS is about 6 mm wider than the 4S
the 3GS is not especially seen as wide, compared to other smartphones
bezels on latest screens seem to get thinner
a 4" 3:2 screen is about as wide as a 4.4" 16:9 screen
well, you don't seem to understand.
no, the surface area increase is different - read the other thread
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the 3:2 4" screen would be about 6 mm wider than the screen on the iPhone 4S
the iPhone 3GS is about 6 mm wider than the 4S
the 3GS is not especially seen as wide, compared to other smartphones
bezels on latest screens seem to get thinner
a 4" 3:2 screen is about as wide as a 4.4" 16:9 screen
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1a) Nice try at spinning the context. My post contains nothing but thoughts and opinions.
Just a friendly reminder this is a forum of public opinion and that's what was being expressed, an opinion. I do realize that to some, the only valued opinions are those of Apple supporters who incessantly praise them, yet a counterpoint is quite valuable as history reflects.
2) No kidding...
3) I've already bought a Samsung S III which I'm enjoying quite thoroughly.
Unlike some, I'm not one to abandon Apple simply because they're stubbornly clinging to an old design. I happen to be a very long time happy Apple customer.
Just because I choose to be outspoken and express my thoughts about current Apple choices, in no way dampens my enthusiasm for the overall mix of products.
Nor does my loyalty to Apple dictate that I must always lavish them with praise. This is a concept than many cannot grasp.
Without customer feedback in ways besides just sales numbers, no company can improve it's products. Expressing ones opinion pro or con, is the most valuable contribution we can make.
If reading about my thoughts, opinions, and personal product experience makes you unhappy or uncomfortable, please remember you're free to choose another thread for your entertainment.
Cheers
I'm real sick of all these reports of an "elongated" design. It just seems like this rumor started 6 months ago and ever since then all the media outlets have been snowballing (for lack of a better word) this design and keep spewing the same regurgitated crap around the web in hopes that it influences Apple's decision on the matter. It's pathetic.
Not only does it seriously look retarded, but it literally adds no value to the experience of an iphone. It NEEDS to be wider to improve the keyboard in portrait mode and allow more content in landscape mode.
Not only does it seriously look retarded, but it literally adds no value to the experience of an iphone. It NEEDS to be wider to improve the keyboard in portrait mode and allow more content in landscape mode.
If you are considering the whole screen, you gain more surface area with a 4" @ 3:2 Screen vs a 4" @ 16:9... When typing in portrait mode, the 4" @ 16:9 has more viewable surface area, but it does not help much in landscape. (I personally hate the landscape keyboard, and I never use it).
I look forward to hearing their explanation at the key note (assuming the taller iphone is what is revealed). Cuz if the main reasons are video and ergonomics... I will be slightly upset. With all the capabilities of the new smart phones and considering its small size, slightly better video viewing should not be the number 1 reason to move the aspect ratio to 16:9 IMO.
yup, that looks like roughly 5 mm more,
so it could let room for a screen up to ~4" 3:2 -or- ~4.4" 16:9,
and, even if hard to say with the perspective, the photo being taken from the top with both devices on a table, the potential new design appears to be only a bit taller, excluding a 16:9 screen.
it's gonna be 5 long weeks
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Yes, a very long 5 weeks.
From the measurements on the leaked parts, the top and bottom bezel (front face) dropped from roughly 0.7" to roughly 0.6"
If history is an indicator, this elongated narrow phone is likely to be reused again in 2013. Therefore it's going to be a full two years before Apple catches up with the widely popular & very efficient 4.65 to 4.8" displays.
Now that I've had mine for some time, besides the obvious, one of the major differences is the increase in typing speed & accuracy that occurs when you have room to work. That plus SWYPE makes an incredible difference.
At some point in the years to come, should Apple adopt this existing technology, their sales will grow so rapidly they'll be hard pressed to keep up. It'll make the iPhone an ever greater success than it already is. Apple will be so dominate, they'll leave the competition scratching their heads in disbelief.
If approached with an open mind & willingness to change, the sky is the limit when it comes to even greater profits for Apple.
Now that I've had mine for some time, besides the obvious, one of the major differences is the increase in typing speed & accuracy that occurs when you have room to work. That plus SWYPE makes an incredible difference.
At some point in the years to come, should Apple adopt this existing technology, their sales will grow so rapidly they'll be hard pressed to keep up. It'll make the iPhone an ever greater success than it already is. Apple will be so dominate, they'll leave the competition scratching their heads in disbelief.
If approached with an open mind & willingness to change, the sky is the limit when it comes to even greater profits for Apple.
Agree, text is consumed much more than video on a cell phone, so 16:9 is a big FAIL.
Thanks for posting. There are more examples of how different apps would look on a taller screen with the same horizontal size and number of pixels here (actually 9:5, 1152x640, but that's pretty close to 16:9, 1138x640):
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/9/2937265/the-4-inch-iphone-5
I've said here recently that I'd prefer 3.5", 960x640 over 4", 1138*x640 (for reasons of one-handed usability) but your post, the images from chleuasme and the post from the Verge really has me rethinking this. The increase in the amount of content is quite surprising; basically, in portrait all of the examples of apps I've seen look better to me on the taller screen.
*or 1137 or 1136 or whatever 16:9 with 640 in the other dimension turns out to be.
Note that the 3gs is slightly wider than the iphone 4, and that was/is perfectly comfortable for the majority and sold very well. There would be room in the next iPhone to increase all dimensions slightly and eliminate the bezel too make the screen considerably wider within tried and tested (and successful) dimensions.
No...Photo you show I believe is wrong and the correct one is below...
