You stated that each iPhone has the same none changing CPU... that's what I'm going after.
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Why do iPhones start slowing down after two years?
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You stated that each iPhone has the same none changing CPU... that's what I'm going after.
Yes, but the CPUs can't handle the newer version of the OS as well as they use to. That's the CPUs "fault" not an issue with the OS.
Seriously? It's pretty clear he means the 3GS has the same CPU it had 2 years ago when it felt much snappier, not that every phone from the 3GS to 4S uses the same CPU. and if you're just trying to be pedantic about his phrasing, well, congrats on being one of THOSE people.
They don't make the OS heavier on purpose.
Adding new features creates more code, which increases the demand being placed on the CPU, RAM, and in many cases, the GPU. For newer devices, the impact is minimal due to the more powerful hardware. Of course, the impact on older devices with less resources to spare is far greater.
Apple isn't going to spend tons of time streamlining iOS for these older devices, as that would impact the effort being put forth for newer devices. They may be a hugely successful company, but they can't and won't bend over backwards to "fix" performance on older devices when the real issue is plain as day and can't be fixed- an increasingly complex OS on static hardware.
As we expect more from iOS, iOS is expecting more from the hardware it runs on. When the hardware fails to meet those expectations, Apple stops developing iOS for it.
Don't get me wrong, I love pushing the limits of older hardware and getting every last ounce out of what I paid for. For example, I think it's amazing that Jelly Bean was ported to the G1, the four year old grandfather of all Android devices. But Apple isn't going to shoehorn a size 12 foot in a size 4 shoe, so to speak.
At some point, new releases of iOS simply don't fit into those jeans that used to look so good on it.
restore from backup? how is that supposed to help. ud just put the same old crap on your phone.
IPhone 4 vs iPhone 4s. On ios5 comparing side by side. iPhone 4s feels like its 20% faster on basic tasks (email, browsing, opening basic apps like SMS )
iPad 2 vs iPad 3. On ios 5 comparing side by side. iPad 2 feels almost identical on basic tasks as iPad 3 (new iPad).
It just shows u that speed wise the iPhone 4S will have a longer life span (like 3GS) than the iPhone 4.
Same for iPad 2. iPad 2 I think will still be able to get ios7 and run much better than iPhone 4 simply cause its duo core. Duo core has much longer usability shelve life.
It's lie my 5.5 year old duo core laptop. Still runs windows 7 very well. Of course battery is shot. But if it's plug into outlet I can still use it like burning DVD etc well.
So I believe duo core iPhone 4s will have a long life span.
iPad 2 vs iPad 3. On ios 5 comparing side by side. iPad 2 feels almost identical on basic tasks as iPad 3 (new iPad).
It just shows u that speed wise the iPhone 4S will have a longer life span (like 3GS) than the iPhone 4.
Same for iPad 2. iPad 2 I think will still be able to get ios7 and run much better than iPhone 4 simply cause its duo core. Duo core has much longer usability shelve life.
It's lie my 5.5 year old duo core laptop. Still runs windows 7 very well. Of course battery is shot. But if it's plug into outlet I can still use it like burning DVD etc well.
So I believe duo core iPhone 4s will have a long life span.
No it's not.
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There are many reasons why your phone could be slowing. I know I once had a friend whose phone was running so slow and upon further investigation his device had used up all the flash storage. You should check all this out. Perhaps try restoring+setting up as new to see what happens. Backup before restoring though.
My iPhone 4 was actually beginning to be unbelievably laggy. I couldn't even send a text message without the letters lagging. It was super slow, and even just hitting the lock button, it would take 3-4 seconds before it actually locked.
I decided to do a restore, and I restored from my iCloud back up. Once the restore was complete, I deleted nearly 5.4GB of data (Apps, photos, videos) and my problem seems to be fixed. My iPhone 4 is now super quick, and it runs just like when I first purchased it.
I decided to do a restore, and I restored from my iCloud back up. Once the restore was complete, I deleted nearly 5.4GB of data (Apps, photos, videos) and my problem seems to be fixed. My iPhone 4 is now super quick, and it runs just like when I first purchased it.
It depends on how old the backup is, the slowness etc could have been caused by something that had been installed or something that happened to the iPhone after the backup had been taken.
Plus I always recommend and find it best to try the restore from backup first when trying to solve problems, rather than restoring as new. Restoring as new takes more time to set the iPhone back up again (making folders, placing apps in certain locations on the screens etc).
It maybe just that the innards of the device just get taxed over time. Same thing with sneakers or any other material thing out there you use on a daily basis. They just get worn out using them over and over again every single day.
I see this too.
Going from my 4S to my girlfriends 4 is painful.
It's just got so slow recently.
Going from my 4S to my girlfriends 4 is painful.
It's just got so slow recently.
I've noticed it too, I've always felt the same way about Apple having some magic switch that they used to slow down the iPhone. But I'm sure it's just all software related because when you put the new software on an older iPhone, it will definitely slow things down.
nothing lasts forever. All electronics have an expiration date. Even Nokia Phones and my old NES.
I used to always think this was silly, but I really HAVE noticed my iPhone 4 is nowhere near as snappy or responsive as it used to be, it's been starting to really irritate me. I actually returned the iPhone 4S when it was released because I couldn't really discern enough of a speed difference between the two but that definitely wouldn't be the case today!
I'm going to try a full restore (set up as a new iPhone) later and see if it breathes some life into it.
I'm going to try a full restore (set up as a new iPhone) later and see if it breathes some life into it.
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Yup. I can agree that my 4 has indeed been lagging quite a bit over the past 6-8 months... I remember how zippy it seemed 2 years ago when I got it. I mean there has only been ONE major OS upgrade. Can you imagine if you bought a Mac within the past year and now with ML it started lagging considerably more. Then people said "well you upgraded your OS. Your Mac was built for Lion, it just can't handle ML very well" Yes, I understand the phone vs computer comparison isn't ideal due to price differential, but the iPhone can actually cost up to $800 off contract (more than a Mac Mini).
I can sort of understand saying "Well your 3G/3GS just is getting too old" because those have been out for 3/4+ years... but the iPhone 4 really shouldn't be this slow....
Edit: another thought. Does it make a difference to performance if you completely fill up your storage? I know on computers it can slow down.
Yes, I understand the phone vs computer comparison isn't ideal due to price differential, but the iPhone can actually cost up to $800 off contract (more than a Mac Mini).I can sort of understand saying "Well your 3G/3GS just is getting too old" because those have been out for 3/4+ years... but the iPhone 4 really shouldn't be this slow....
Edit: another thought. Does it make a difference to performance if you completely fill up your storage? I know on computers it can slow down.
We have an iPad 1 that has been going very slow.
Restored it last night and then set it up from the backup. The difference is amazing. It has a new lease of life. I thought it was hugely slower than our new iPad 3 but its not bad at all.
The slider bar took a second to respond and the text would appear all in one go 2 or 3 seconds after typing. Now its back to like new even though it running the latest version.
Even though the automatic upgrades are very easy to do I think from now on I will upgrade by doing restore on itunes and then set it up from the backup.
The slow down was so incremental I hardly noticed until it became really slow. I thought the iPad 1 could not run the latest software smoothly. This is what I had picked up, but I don't think its true.
If yours is slow just Restore it.
Restored it last night and then set it up from the backup. The difference is amazing. It has a new lease of life. I thought it was hugely slower than our new iPad 3 but its not bad at all.
The slider bar took a second to respond and the text would appear all in one go 2 or 3 seconds after typing. Now its back to like new even though it running the latest version.
Even though the automatic upgrades are very easy to do I think from now on I will upgrade by doing restore on itunes and then set it up from the backup.
The slow down was so incremental I hardly noticed until it became really slow. I thought the iPad 1 could not run the latest software smoothly. This is what I had picked up, but I don't think its true.
If yours is slow just Restore it.
Lately i feel the same, i think my 4 is kinda slow and from sbsettings i see many times my free ram is like 60-70 or even lower.
I have to close al open apps to gain again more ram so my iphone gets smoother again..
I have to close al open apps to gain again more ram so my iphone gets smoother again..
I think just like any other electronics, like a computer, it breaks down as time passes. Even if you factory reset it or what not, it'll never be as it used to be brand new.
Your iPhone's processor will actually disintegrate after a couple years of use.
iCloud restore clarification
There always seems to be this rumor going around that if you restore as new instead of from a backup, it'll resolve all the issues on that phone. Can someone with in-depth knowledge on iOS infrastructure clarify this myth? I've dug around but have never found a legit answer.
Rumor is that a restore from backup brings back old temp files, old app files, hidden deleted data, etc... Is there any truth to this? My understanding is that an iCloud restore only restores settings and apps. After an iCloud restore your phone looks like a mirror image of the backup so I wonder if the hidden junk is still there...
There always seems to be this rumor going around that if you restore as new instead of from a backup, it'll resolve all the issues on that phone. Can someone with in-depth knowledge on iOS infrastructure clarify this myth? I've dug around but have never found a legit answer.
Rumor is that a restore from backup brings back old temp files, old app files, hidden deleted data, etc... Is there any truth to this? My understanding is that an iCloud restore only restores settings and apps. After an iCloud restore your phone looks like a mirror image of the backup so I wonder if the hidden junk is still there...
A restore and set up as new extracts everything on the device and replaces it with a new copy of the OS. Restoring from backup restores pretty much everything you backed up and will even restore certain jailbreak tweaks if you restore a jailbroken backup.
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Obviously...
I hope you are trolling... dear God please be trolling. No one can be this stupid.