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Why do people hate macs and mac users?

Mackan said:
*sigh* Almost all pc users? Hate? Stop being ridiculous.



Stop being ridiculous. You generalize things to the extreme.
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I guess in my experience it has been like that.

Also on the notebookforums thread.. I find that always a dell user always goes on a thread and hi jacks it and posts how apple sucks and blah blah.. I mean I never go into a dell thread and talk their products down. When I was interested in an m1330 I was in a dell thread and just read and asked questions on it but not talk down about the product.

But then I'm sure there are some apple trolls in the dell forums as well...
 
eyespii said:
Macs are more $$ than PCs. Owning and using a mac (especially that $3000+ MBP in your sig) means that you have that much spare scratch lying around to spend on a computer that doesn't do too much more than a similarly equipped $1500 PC. Waterfield bags isn't your run of the mill $30 targus either, is it?

Lots of people don't appreciate computers and technology the way many members of this forum do, and they see a mac as simply a $3000 computer (easily a few months rent more than a regular PC). You have to be prepared to take some ribbing from the less mature PC people running old desktops.

Buying a mac is almost akin to buying a luxury car. The luxury car won't necessarily get you where you're going any faster, but you'll look and feel better getting there 🙂.
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how about the luvaglio laptop that's a million dollars running on windows?
we don't have a million dollar MBP
the thing is..
it's a vicious cycle.. let's admit it..
WE, Mac users feel and make the other PC users feel that WE''re BETTER.
so the HATRED is just flamed back.

to the OP.. maybe they just don't like you.. and not the MBP that you're carrying😀
 
alphaod said:
First off, I can't see how these 2 are your friends...

Now we Mac people are one big f***ing clique; we are happy, we help one another, we have lives to live and worlds to conquer; our OS doesn't have issues, so we can be happy and do fun stuff like create movies; non-mac users have a s***load of problems and they are pissed all day that their computer just lost all their work and they have no lives to live; they know they are insufficient peoples, but they are cowards unable to take the pain, so they find a scapegoat for all their problems.
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This is a prime example of why PC users will often bash on Mac users. The pompous attitude. Perhaps there was some sarcasm in there, but I didn't notice any.

As someone who uses Mac OS X, Linux and Windows, each "community" has fanboys. The hate between Mac users and PC users isn't just a one way road. If you read this forum a lot, you'll see a lot of mis-placed contempt for PCs/Windows.

The similarities between the Mac and PC communities is very shocking. Each community has it's share of pompous users and they hate the "other side" with a passion. If you spend a lot of time on here, you'll see a lot of misinformed people bash Windows.

A lot of Mac users want respect in real life and on other forums/communities (that may or may not be computer related), but at the same time, many Mac users aren't willing to go out on a limb and show the same respect towards PC users.
 
Digital Skunk said:
They hate Macs for the same reason any idiot would hate something, they don't know anything about it, they don't care to do research about it, and they'd rather insult it/make up their own facts and opinions about it/and tell everyone else to stay away from it.

Been that way since the beginning of time, and picked up momentum around the 14th century in Europe then America. Doesn't look like it's going to stop anytime soon. 🙄
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you're reasoning is a bit flawed. sorry!
WE hate terrorism and extreme religious groups because they're bad. period.
and not because we're idiots who don't know anything about or don't care to research about them.
just my 2 cents.
 
FX120 said:
Have you ever considered that maybe it's because you're a prick and not because of the type of computer you use that makes them dislike you?

🙂

Obviously I have no clue as to what your personality is like, but I find it far fetched that the only reason they dislike you is because of the brand of your computer.
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Exactly! I'm a Mac user too. I have never had anyone have so much hate towards me because of my choice in computers. And a bunch of these friends are computer science grads/IT admins.
 
The Flashing Fi said:
This is a prime example of why PC users will often bash on Mac users. The pompous attitude. Perhaps there was some sarcasm in there, but I didn't notice any.

As someone who uses Mac OS X, Linux and Windows, each "community" has fanboys. The hate between Mac users and PC users isn't just a one way road. If you read this forum a lot, you'll see a lot of mis-placed contempt for PCs/Windows.

The similarities between the Mac and PC communities is very shocking. Each community has it's share of pompous users and they hate the "other side" with a passion. If you spend a lot of time on here, you'll see a lot of misinformed people bash Windows.

A lot of Mac users want respect in real life and on other forums/communities (that may or may not be computer related), but at the same time, many Mac users aren't willing to go out on a limb and show the same respect towards PC users.
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+1
can't we all get a life???
OUTSIDE?
😀
 
The flaming war works both ways or it wouldn't be what it is,i choose to use a Mac because i know different,but if someone wants to use a PC then hay its there choice

But i can relate to it as i once took my MBP into work ( teach IT ) and got more dirty looks than i care to remember,but my boss who doesn't use a Mac said " we all know there better than PC's" just goes to show
 
jjahshik32 said:
Everyone can hate any personality but I havnt done anything for that attack. I asked my friend for the wifi he told me password might have changed ask roomy, he handles that stuff, I asked the roomy if I could please have the password and just told me that there is no wifi. But then my friend was like the wii gets wifi though.. but he doesnt know much about networking so I just left it at that and didnt ask about the wifi anymore.

The whole point is I just asked the roomy for the password and havnt said anything else since he's in his own room.
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Yeah , but .... They might just not like you ...when I was younger I used to get hassle like this all the time (and I didn't have a Mac then !), the people I was hanging with at the time did not see things the way I did , different personality's I suppose.
I was was at that weird age in between being a kid and being an adult 'propper' .
I'd been hanging round with the same local people while growing up and was kinda stuck ... It was only when I changed my group of 'friends' to real friends who I was comfortable being with did I realize that the previous bunch where as*h*les and that they didn't like me for who I am .

One scenario of mine was when at 19 I had a good job which came with a company car , I saw some of my home town friends and stopped to say hi , they asked for a lift a few miles down the road , I obliged , when I got home I noticed a big rip in the back seat where they had been sitting .

Some folk can be jealous of anything , sad but true.

bottom line . change your friends 🙂
 
jjahshik32 said:
I just decided to start this thread because I noticed that almost all pc users despise or hate mac users and apple all together.

This is really apparent in real life as well. I brought over my macbook pro 17" to my friends house and asked one of the roommates to use their internet but apparently they turn off wifi or supposedly they do because I asked my friend if I could use his wifi.

Anways my friend tells me its the linksys and gives me the password for his wpa and it wouldnt work. Then I go into asking his roommate if the password is right and tells me that its correct yet it wont let me connect. Then he tells me that everything is used ethernet at the place while their nintendo wii is on wifi.. hmm..

Anyways long story short, I just gave up with the whole wifi thing and my friend told me he doesnt control the linksys or dont know how to and that his roommate does. So after just carrying the 17" around watching some videos I d/led and showing other friends some funny clips and when it was time to go home I looked for my waterfield sleeve to put the mbp back in and found out the roommate spilled some water on purpose on my sleeve... What an *******.

Its like the most passive way to tell me to go **** yourself.

Well that's one of my stories of being hated on for just using a mac.. did I ever tell any of them that my mac is better than their dell that they were using?? NO, did I use a passive way to tell them that i'm surperior, NO. I just came over to my friends to just use my laptop while just hanging out/lounging.

If I brought over a dell or sony I'm sure the roommates would welcome me more and just oOo and AhH me. And these guys dont really care about computers either, all have old desktop computers just to d/l torrent files.

Luckily I wiped off the spilt water or whatever drink it was off of my waterfield bag and is fine but anyone else care to share personal experiences of why people hate mac or mac users?
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the main argument is basically that mac users pay 2x more for the same hardware just for the OS. They figure that you could just learn to use windows and save a lot of money...which you certainly could. There are advantages to owning a pc, like the fact that you can go to a store and buy a replacement part at will, or handpick the parts and build your own for really really cheap. I've never understood mac fanatics just like i've never understood pc fanatics..both work fine. But..certain mac models are ripoffs for sure. Example: mac mini. What mac fans need to realize is that macs aren't any differnt than pcs internally..a mac is a pc running EFI instead of bios and has a shiny case running osx. What pc fans need to realize is that if mac fans want to spend 2x to have osx..then go ahead and have fun.

Though..i've never met someone who hated or liked me solely on the basis of what kind of computer i owned...




also..gamers will always prefer pcs b\c macs suck for gaming..period. Macs by nature have lower-end parts than comparable pcs in exchange for aesthetics. Gamers by nature want all the power they want at the expense of aesthetics. Therefore, they are willing to carry around 10 lbs laptops with 1 hr battery life so they can play crysis on high. Everything makes sense if you approach it from that perspective. Also, mac ports usually are badly coded and get ~10 fps lower than their pc counterparts. Bootcamp is just another investment of $100+ for windows..adding to the expense.

alphaod said:
First off, I can't see how these 2 are your friends...

Now we Mac people are one big f***ing clique; we are happy, we help one another, we have lives to live and worlds to conquer; our OS doesn't have issues, so we can be happy and do fun stuff like create movies; non-mac users have a s***load of problems and they are pissed all day that their computer just lost all their work and they have no lives to live; they know they are insufficient peoples, but they are cowards unable to take the pain, so they find a scapegoat for all their problems.
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So you personally feel that all PC owners fail at life while all mac users are a happy community living in utopia?

Perhaps this is the mindset that angers those pc people? It appears that many of the peopel that feel this way have never really sat down and used/own a good modern PC. Many of the issues that people profess PCs are all riddled with aren't large issues anymore. Security-wise, vista has been much better than xp has been. Stability is better than it use to be. All in all, its a computer and it gets the job done.

I mean..there are people that use pcs out there..vista no less..that do not have massive issues with their computer and lead relatively happy lives.

For the record, I own a SR macbook pro.
 
I'm going to have some fun here.

Freyqq said:
the main argument is basically that mac users pay 2x more for the same hardware just for the OS.
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Twice? Really? How odd in that when I bought my Core2Duo iMac a couple of years ago the nearest spec Dell was about £50 less but didn't have an all-in-one design. £50 to just use 1 power lead, I went with the BT option so I didn't even have keyboard and mice wires. 🙂
Thanks to the student discount I bought a PowerBook much less than the nearest performing PC laptop (G4 v P4, back in 2004).
So where's this argument based?


also..gamers will always prefer pcs b\c macs suck for gaming..period.
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Well thanks for that "period" otherwise I would have thought otherwise.

I'm mostly a PC gamer these days and yes, I'm running a 2 year old iMac and you know what? It's playing my games under Bootcamp perfectly. Team Fortress 2, Oblivion, Bioshock, UT3 all play beautifully. With better controllers and (in most cases) a higher resolution than their console counterparts.
I'd bother with a new computer if games like Crysis were any fun, can't stand the lack of gameplay in that game. I'm wondering what your definition of "gamer" is.
 
Kids hate them because they don't play there crappy games. You can run bootcamp but that defeats the purpose of buying a Mac. Besides you have to spend over a grand just to get one with a decent graphics card to play the games.

Adults hate them because they think people who spend that much on a computer are stupid, in many ways they have a point.
 
eyespii said:
Macs are more $$ than PCs. Owning and using a mac (especially that $3000+ MBP in your sig) means that you have that much spare scratch lying around to spend on a computer that doesn't do too much more than a similarly equipped $1500 PC. Waterfield bags isn't your run of the mill $30 targus either, is it?

Lots of people don't appreciate computers and technology the way many members of this forum do, and they see a mac as simply a $3000 computer (easily a few months rent more than a regular PC). You have to be prepared to take some ribbing from the less mature PC people running old desktops.

Buying a mac is almost akin to buying a luxury car. The luxury car won't necessarily get you where you're going any faster, but you'll look and feel better getting there 🙂.
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wow.... awesome way to things into a perspective. Kudos to your reply... I do feel that way with my mac....!
 
gehrbox said:
You join a minority when you buy a Mac. Many view people that own Mac's as prema donna's. When you show them the features in OS X, they think you are talking down to them.
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I must admit it is kind of difficult not gloating over a superior machine. To be honest the only time I compare Windows to Mac is when a Windows user mentions some problem they're having - which 99% of the time happens to be a Windows-only problem. So, pointing out that it's a Windows problem and you don't experience that stuff on a Mac (or hardly ever at best) it's just par for the course it's that you've taken the high ground of a superior product.

Too often people assume preachiness is the same as simply trying to help or offering advice about computers, you know? "You experience that problem because you're running Windows XP" will come across as "You experience that problem because your life sucks and I have an Apple." People take constructive criticism way too personally.

eyespii: Your comparison to luxury cars is a good one I agree, but Macs are coming down all the time in price, and I'm a firm believer that you get what you pay for. You pay more for Snap-On tools because the the wrenches don't mush over at the end, you pay more for Gap jeans because they wear like iron, and you pay more for Macintosh computers because they're more dependable and reliable. I didn't buy a Mac just to join a little club of some kind - I bought a Mac because I'm sick of having every single Windows machine I've owned crash and deteriorate as it ages.

I was sold on Macs ever since I saw the difference between a Mac Classic and my family's long line of horrid ME and XP machines: That little Classic would chug away for hours and not give a wink of trouble (granted it was old and features-challenged) and the Windows crap would stop shutting down properly, sport lovely driver errors, fail to print, fail to start, fail to keep working, fail to restart, fail to switch programs, fail to blah blah blah. The fact that Macs look sportier and cooler is just a perk.
 
I started at a new workplace about 6 months ago and you have to supply your own computer... well long story short IT guys higher up said "nope" we can't support Macs... even though all applications are web based. Rather than buying a pc which would be used often in a very mac household I chose to buy a MBP and run fusion. Cost a lot of $ to get everything needed to make compatible at work but I didn't care.🙄Many at work just rolled their eyes and had a condescending attitude about investing in a machine that cost about twice what I could buy at Best Buy. However... we are now 4 Mac strong at work, two new people that came in with macs also (one Air!) and one convert. I try to be low-key about it, but I'm not going to walk around ashamed of myself either. I've met all kinds of pc users... some willingly acknowledge that they wished they had the dough to spend on a mac... others just don't care..and a few that openly distain the Mac. Just depends.
 
LOL. You lot don't even know you're born!! 😀

Some of us were Mac users back in the late 90s. That was the time of real Mac hating. These days it's just a few teenagers who hate on Macs and Mac users, using the oft-repeated line about our "overpriced toys" and such.

To which the only valid reply is "It's my money, I'll spend it how I want" 🙂
 
Generally people I have met have always liked my ibook. Its a bit old now and not in the most perfect condition but people still say oo thats nice. I guess people would rather have one but there is not much point if your just using word and excel all day, hardly exciting.
 
There are real mac hating psychos though. One guy at work will spend hours trying to dissuade anyone who shows interest in buying a MB or MBP. When he found out I used an iBook, he began to email me daily mac errors, faults, etc. updates. He's a bit of a loon!
 
dynamicv said:
Some of us were Mac users back in the late 90s. That was the time of real Mac hating.
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Ah, the good old days...

I use Macs because that's what suits me best. I don't care what anyone else thinks about that or what their choices are. I'm happy as long as there are enough Mac users around to keep the platform going.
 
dynamicv said:
LOL. You lot don't even know you're born!! 😀

Some of us were Mac users back in the late 90s. That was the time of real Mac hating. These days it's just a few teenagers who hate on Macs and Mac users, using the oft-repeated line about our "overpriced toys" and such.

To which the only valid reply is "It's my money, I'll spend it how I want" 🙂
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I was a Mac hater back in the mid 80s. Not because I had a PC, but because I had an Apple IIgs. The Apple II line support slowly died and was replaced by the Mac LC.

Guess once you have Apple sauce you either hate it or start looking for the right Apple oriented tattoo to get 🙂
 
I don't care for the hate, but what I really don't care for is the ignorance.

"Macs can't play games"
"Macs are only for graphic stuff"
"Macs aren't compatible with anything"

All ignorant remarks, that get me heated, but if I try to explain they won't listen anyways. It's just the way it is. Besides the blind fanboys, any tech user will recognize the awesomeness of Mac OS and their machines.
 
gehrbox said:
I was a Mac hater back in the mid 80s. Not because I had a PC, but because I had an Apple IIgs. The Apple II line support slowly died and was replaced by the Mac LC.

Guess once you have Apple sauce you either hate it or start looking for the right Apple oriented tattoo to get 🙂
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The IIgs died way too quickly to make room for Macs.

That was the day I switched to PC. I put a PC Transporter in my IIgs so I could use it as a PC and didn't buy another Apple product again until the Mini.

And it appears it's happened again as the Mini is LONG overdue for a refresh and is probably going away.

So, that will be twice that Apple has burned me by releasing a product that fit my needs and then killing the product line.

As the saying goes, shame on me.
 
Decrepit said:
And it appears it's happened again as the Mini is LONG overdue for a refresh and is probably going away.

So, that will be twice that Apple has burned me by releasing a product that fit my needs and then killing the product line.
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Erm....your mini is still supported, will run Snow Leopard, and you can't upgrade its components anyway. How exactly have Apple burned you? They wouldn't magically upgrade your computer even if they update the model they sell 😕
 
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