iPhone XR Why do people that get an iPhone XR insist that it’s an upgrade when coming from a X or XS?
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Shanghaichica
macrumors G5
It beat a £300 budget android phone.
Shanghaichica
macrumors G5
Did I make a thread to trash the XR? No I only replied to a thread. People are entitled to their own opinions. It’s only a phone. People should buy what they want and not place too much value in what others think about it.
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It’s crazy that people are willing to pay up to £900 for a sub 1080p display even in 2019. If it were £500-£600 then maybe you could justify it with the Apple tax but paying £900 is crazy imo.
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Lowe resolution display, no 3D Touch, only 1 camera. However it depends what is important to you.
What’s important to me personally is having the best camera to take the best pictures which in most cases the iPhone XR is a better camera than the X and in certain situations takes better pictures than the XS and XS max. The latest and fastest processor to ensure my iPhone will have the best performance with the latest software updates is also important. Also none of this matters if the battery life isn’t good which in this case the xr has the best battery life out of any iPhone.
If the iPhone is your primary source to watch media I can see how having the highest resolution screen would be a dealbreaker. I went to the Apple store and out the xr next to my x and had to stare at both for a little while to see something I’d actually complain about. It makes me “feel” good knowing I have the highest resolution possible on such a small screen but at the end of the day it’ll never be as good as watching content on an iPad/macbook/tv and I’m perfectly fine with that.
Also the telephoto lens, while in theory is useful the shock iPhone camera doesn’t even use it unless you’re in optimal lighting conditions even after you tap that 2x.
The 3D Touch experience is also slowly be ported over to the “haptic touch” version which is sort of already present on iPads minus the haptic touch.
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I gather you haven’t responded to anybody in this thread and you likely won’t. But why would you think the anyone would need to justify their purchase for a ‘smart phone’? Do you think they really care one way or the other about what’s considered an upgrade or not? Or the fact that they just want a smart phone that meets the expectations? I’m thinking the latter.
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JPack
macrumors G5
XR: $749 for 326 PPI
XS: $999 for 458 PPI
Every Android phone for $749 has a PPI above 326. Every $999 Android phone has a PPI above 458. Android phones also have more RAM than iPhone. And cameras with larger sensors. And faster charging.
When did this become about specs? What is this, 2012 again? iPhone has always been about the entire user experience. When did the value of an iPhone boil down to whether you could play 1080p video on a 6-inch display?
XS: $999 for 458 PPI
Every Android phone for $749 has a PPI above 326. Every $999 Android phone has a PPI above 458. Android phones also have more RAM than iPhone. And cameras with larger sensors. And faster charging.
When did this become about specs? What is this, 2012 again? iPhone has always been about the entire user experience. When did the value of an iPhone boil down to whether you could play 1080p video on a 6-inch display?
ThatiPhoneKid
macrumors 6502a
If that’s your opinion then that’s fine, we all have the right to our own opinion. No one is justifying their purchase because they don’t have to, anyone who bought or is buying an iPhone XR is getting a phone which is very similar to the iPhone X and Xs for a much lower price.
Kanyay
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If you read the thread you'd see they were mentioned.
Big oof on your part.
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I never once said that Apple didn't consider them an upgrade. Re-read.
AustinIllini
macrumors G5
I catch myself using it sometimes, but I used it intentionally in response to a previous post.
There are a lot of bad questions but "is iPhone XR an upgrade over iPhone 8+" is a bad one.
Certainly not in the stand-alone quoted post.
thadoggfather
macrumors P6
The single camera is superior to the 1x camera on X,
battery life is superior to everything,
repair costs are superior to both (less ridiculous),
The sound and processor are superior to X,
True Tone implementation and lack of PWM is (subjectively) superior to both,
scaling is superior to both (as mentioned, it shows as much as Max does),
128 option superior because not available on X/XS
But muh stainless steel and OLED and 3DT (mostly replaced by haptic touch), and dual cameras (at night, it will use first lens anyways its a faster lens)
Since I have a gift card on standby, I'll probably get whatever 2019 iPhone comes out too... XR bashing doesnt really affect my perception
battery life is superior to everything,
repair costs are superior to both (less ridiculous),
The sound and processor are superior to X,
True Tone implementation and lack of PWM is (subjectively) superior to both,
scaling is superior to both (as mentioned, it shows as much as Max does),
128 option superior because not available on X/XS
But muh stainless steel and OLED and 3DT (mostly replaced by haptic touch), and dual cameras (at night, it will use first lens anyways its a faster lens)
Since I have a gift card on standby, I'll probably get whatever 2019 iPhone comes out too... XR bashing doesnt really affect my perception
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Kanyay
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Certainly not.
Completely agree. It reminds me about the rather sad megapixel debate from times gone by. Ah well...
You missed the point of the video. He was trying to point out that 1080p resolution is nothing but a spec and that the quality of the panel is more important
I remember back in the day when people were making a fuss about 1080p vs 720p on TV sets under 40”. People could hardly notice the difference at the time.
Now we’re are talking about 6” displays lol
thadoggfather
macrumors P6
its pretty much an S-upgrade with some concessions, without getting slammed by the same $1000+ price tag, knowing the next cycle or one after will be a big change on the tick-tock cycle
its a daily driver for some YouTube people that were previous haters or skeptics
Adelphos33
macrumors 68000
Joanna Stern stays she likes her XR more than the X.
When stepping back, these phones all perform similarly. However, Apple for years spoiled people by allowing them to buy the "flagship" "the new iPhone" at a discount, and many of these customers seem to be recoiling at buying any "lower priced" phone when a higher priced phone is available. That doesn't mean the XR is an obvious upgrade to the X - it's just that all of these phones perform very similarly, and there may not be a reason for all three to really exist.
When stepping back, these phones all perform similarly. However, Apple for years spoiled people by allowing them to buy the "flagship" "the new iPhone" at a discount, and many of these customers seem to be recoiling at buying any "lower priced" phone when a higher priced phone is available. That doesn't mean the XR is an obvious upgrade to the X - it's just that all of these phones perform very similarly, and there may not be a reason for all three to really exist.
byron_hinson
macrumors 6502
I’ve had the iPhone X and went for the iPhone XR as “upgrade” on the iPhone programme as it was so much cheaper in the end monthly and the XS didn’t seem like a decent change to justify the price. I really like the XR and the battery life, improved performance.
The screen doesn’t bother me too much, no its not as good as the OLED but its not that much of a drastic change unless you watch Netflix on it, though I never do as I have a laptop or iPad for that.
I certainly prefer the size of the XR over my X and I don’t miss 3D Touch one bit.
All the phones perform pretty much the same and you just need to decide of OLED and a better camera is worth the extra, to me it isn’t currently.
The screen doesn’t bother me too much, no its not as good as the OLED but its not that much of a drastic change unless you watch Netflix on it, though I never do as I have a laptop or iPad for that.
I certainly prefer the size of the XR over my X and I don’t miss 3D Touch one bit.
All the phones perform pretty much the same and you just need to decide of OLED and a better camera is worth the extra, to me it isn’t currently.
1rottenapple
macrumors 601
Who is insisting the xr is superior? It’s PERSONAL CHOICE. Of course the xs and max are superior. Look at the specs and features. I’m not deluted to say a phone that cost 1350 with tax is INFERIOR to an xr. But it’s not worth it to me. my used 600 dollar xr is in no ways inferior. It’s like 90% as good but the money I saved makes me happy about the deal I got on a used unit. The max is not worth the extra amount you spend imho.
The max sounds a little bit better using the external speakers. Like by a 5% margin.
In my visual take, its 5% better screen.
3D Touch is 5% useful (I don’t miss it)
Max Priced $300 more expensive than the max equivalent? Heck no!
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The max sounds a little bit better using the external speakers. Like by a 5% margin.
In my visual take, its 5% better screen.
3D Touch is 5% useful (I don’t miss it)
Max Priced $300 more expensive than the max equivalent? Heck no!
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Like who?
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Or the Xs/Max users are trying to defend overpaying for a phone that’s barely better than a $750 phone. $1,000 to $1,500 for a phone? If I paid that much I would be defending it too since a cheaper phone does almost the same thing for less..
Difference between the 5c is that it was released when the 5s was released and the 5c was basically the old iPhone 5. The Xr actually uses almost all the same internals as your “flagship” for a fraction of the price.
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The-Real-Deal82
macrumors P6
It is a superior phone to some people much like we choose specific phones for our needs etc. Some people have gone from the X and XS because of the bigger screen, better battery and LCD display? Who is anybody here to say it’s not a personal upgrade?
Laughable and a rather childish comment if I may say, not to mention factually incorrect. ‘Cheapest out’? lol where do you people come from?