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Why does everyone keep saying that Apple needs to make a bigger iPhone?
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That's not correct for Normal. It goes more like 3.5" to 4.8". The charts are tricky to read, and more importantly, each manufacturer sets what their device displays.
When programming for Android, here are the categories that developers actually use:
- Galaxy Mini (3.1") - small, ldpi
- Galaxy Ace (3.5") - normal, mdpi
- Galaxy S (4.0") - normal, hdpi
- Galaxy S2 (4.3") - normal, hdpi
- Galaxy S3 (4.8") - normal, xhdpi
- Galaxy Nexus (4.65") - normal, xhdpi
- Galaxy Note - large, xhdpi
- Galaxy Nexus 7 - large, tvdpi
- Galaxy Tab 10.1 - xlarge, mdpi
Notice that screens from 4.0" to 4.8" use the "normal/hdpi" and "normal/xhdpi" categories. Looking at the Android dashboard for those stats, you'll see that (37.9% + 25.0%)
= 62.9% of devices using the Play Market in the past two weeks are probably between 4.0" and 4.8".
However, the thing to remember is that the dashboard doesn't show "market share" or sales. It only shows who's currently hitting the Play Market, numbers which ... like those web / ad page hit stats that people often quote... do not tell us what is selling the most. So the actual percentage of those devices being sold is likely much less.
All I'm saying is, Market stats and web/ad stats, are all worthless when it comes to figuring out sales share. In fact, you need to already know the sales share in order to make sense of those access stats.
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Oh ya ! You got that info from the internet, right ? "No one can put anything on the internet unless it was true" Reminds me of that auto insurance commercial.
1.5 inches is huge for only 6 years. Or was that centimeter not inches. Still huge. Just think for a moment, in a few more years, your hands are going to be so large over the rest of your body that you will look real funny
There's always that one person that thinks I was serious, no matter how ridiculous my comment was. Today, you are that person. Please go to aisle 6 to collect your prize.
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And those of us with normal sized hands dread the day we have to hold our 9.7 and 10.1" tablets up to our face to make a phone call lol. XD
Apple won't make a phone just because a small percentage of people have massive hands.
The current iPhone screen size is just right for the majority of people. Not to mention that the majority of iPhone users are teens.
Apple needs a bigger iPhone because many of those people in that 5.7% would NEVER have purchased an android device if Apple gave them any other option.
I also think that 4.25 inches is the ideal phone size, so for me the iPhone's screen size is sub-optimal.
Most android phones are 4" + so while Apple is within the "norm" they are also one of the smallest normal phones.
I would like to see a low cost 5" iPhone and a 4.2" iPhone 5S:
Sexy iPhone 5S design with a larger screen that doesn't compromise by inflating the physical size of the phone. I like.
Because way more people are buying the large and phablet phones compared to about three years ago when there were none.
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You will find that the business world is full of dumb people. When Android phones came onto the market, especially before every carrier had iPhones and also at lower prices, I saw so many reports about how Apple was doomed because of its declining market share. Same thing happened when the iPad went down from basically being the market to being *just* the top tablet in the market.
I know I want a larger screen. But I also have an iPhone 4S. Whenever the next model comes out, I will be getting a larger screenn
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You will find that the business world is full of dumb people. When Android phones came onto the market, especially before every carrier had iPhones and also at lower prices, I saw so many reports about how Apple was doomed because of its declining market share. Same thing happened when the iPad went down from basically being the market to being *just* the top tablet in the market.
I know I want a larger screen. But I also have an iPhone 4S. Whenever the next model comes out, I will be getting a larger screenn
If you read my post you'll notice that I already called out the fact that iOS didn't need drastic changes over time because they were already ahead of Android on a number of things. I'm not missing anything.
The entire point here is that Android was once an evolutionary platform. It had a few very rough years... Despite that, it was exciting to watch the changes. Now it's become revolutionary, meaning it's not only still fresh but it's also ahead of the curve.
iOS has passed through both phases already and is now simply... unexciting. The app ecosystem is unbeatable but the operating system is no longer revolutionary. It's lagging behind the capabilities of an Android device and it hasn't had a facelift in years. It may not be broken but it could certainly be improved. It could also use a new coat of paint.
As I said before, people are simply tired of looking at the same thing. It's not the hardware so much as it is the software. Debate this all you want, but there are obviously several reasons behind the sudden stalling of iPhone sales. The numbers are telling the story better than I do.
iTunes has gone through many changes, and continues to do so still. It's fantastic software, and it's always on the move. You have to wonder why iOS hasn't been given the same love.
It's funny because I was one of those people who complained about the iPhone not having a bigger screen. I owned a Galaxy s3 for almost a year and loved the phone. The bigger screen size is "better" for watching movies, videos and web browsing/games. The Android OS still feeling uncompleted and not as smooth and responsive made me trade my GS3 for an iPhone 5 a few days ago. Needless to say I couldn't be happier. I quickly got accustomed to the smaller screen, finding it extremely comfortable to use in one hand and smoother, more responsive. Screen is of higher quality than that of other phones. Text is crisp as well as images, iOS feels better designed as a whole including the apps. I will also be getting the iPhone 5S when it comes out. Another thing to note; on android I felt like I spent too much time worrying about how my home screen is set up or how widgets looked or trying to make things work and keep the phone running fast by clearing ram etc. On the iPhone 5 I feel like I'm being more productive, getting things done quicker in the blink of an eye, smooth transitions and animations, using my phone more often. Wanting to download and try out new apps from the AppStore. I also have an iPad and MacBook Pro so best decision ever I'm glad I'm back.
1. iPhone sales and especially iPad (both use the same OS) sales are not stalling.
2. The majority of users - aka the growth - is still on their FIRST iPhone (and their first Android device respectively).
Only about 5 million iPhone OS devices had been sold in its first year, so there are only 5 million people who can become bored of iOS because they have stared at the same homescreen for nearly 6 years.
About 20 million (too lazy to look up iPod Touch numbers for that period) devices have been sold in the first two years, so only 20 million users can say they have stared at the same homescreen for around 5 years...
And so on...
Of the 350+ million devices running iOS, the majority has been sold only in the last two years, many of them to first time users.
For them, the OS is not stale, it's brand new.
Those who can complain that the OS is boring because they have used it since the original iPhone are a (vocal) minority.
I wouldn't have a problem with Apple making a bigger iPhone, as long as they kept the 4" with no cut backs on anything else on the phone. It's near perfect for me. I have relatively small hands, and I don't want to be holding a massive phablet by my head. I don't know about you, but when those big-for-the-sake-of-big smartphones were first released most people I know ridiculed those holding these inconveniently massive bits of plastic next to their head.
5" is the biggest I want, and not just "taller" either. The Note 2 is too big, even for me!
Its always funny to see Apple "fans" defend how "the product that Apple makes NOW is the only product that should exist. But in the end, if Apple makes it then these same people will buy it and then brag about it.
Personally, I very very strongly prefer iOS over all others but I dont prefer the iPhone because the screen size just isn't comfortable for me. So I'd gladly ditch this BS about "one-handed use" and get a larger screen because even .3" would make all the difference in the world in improving usability.
Personally, I very very strongly prefer iOS over all others but I dont prefer the iPhone because the screen size just isn't comfortable for me. So I'd gladly ditch this BS about "one-handed use" and get a larger screen because even .3" would make all the difference in the world in improving usability.
http://axeetech.com/2013/04/10/19-r...ne-5-showed-disappointing-sales/#.UX1U-8oUB2A
Just Google "disappointing iphone 5 sales". A ton of hits will come up. Add to that investor confidence slipping with Apple's massive stock drop.
The lower cost iPhones may still be selling, but that's because they're essentially free at this point. While that's nice, margins sink further and further as their phones age. The iPhone 5 is their honey pot, and fewer people are buying in.
It doesn't take five years for something to become stale either. Sometimes it only takes two. Or a simple trip to your local cell phone vendor to try the latest phones and see what your missing.
Again, the sales speak for themselves. The iPhone 5 isn't performing as expected. There's a number of reasons why that could be, and you can bet lack of change will definitely be on that list.
You can also Google "Aliens abducted me and ate my cat", 1.5 million hits will come up...
Even if Apple would only sell iPhone 4 and 4S, that would just shrink their margins from "ridiculously high" to "still much higher than other companies"...
Apple likes cannibalizing their own products with a cheaper product, it totally beats being cannibalized by products from other vendors.
Then again, the iPhone 5 is an awesome phone but - the iPhone 4S is also an awesome phone.
With each new generation, it becomes less and less important to upgrade every year or even every two years.
For a large number of people, the iPhone 4 is still a great device.
And the power of the iPhone 5 can only really be used by gamers - some gamers, because all games still run great on the 4S.
Same with the Galaxy S4 - the jump from 300 dpi to 450 dpi is less important than the one from 200 to 300 and i doubt many will have a need for the A15 quadcores of that device...
The situation is also similar to the situation on the PC market.
This years Haswell CPUs won't be (according to benchmarks by engineering samples) much faster than SandyBridge CPUs from 2011.
And most people will have no problems with using a Core2Quad from 2007.
PC sales are down... whoaah!
PC technology has improved faster than the requirements of software have increased.
The same happened with smartphones, the iPhone 4S or for some even the iPhone 4 has reached the level of "Good enough".
That will change when software is able to predict what you're going to do next and does it before you even knew you wanted to do it.
Siri and Google Now are the first steps in that direction and they will fundamentally change how you interact with a smartphone or even a computer.
But then those services run in the cloud at the moment.
One day, the devices will be fast enough and some tasks will become so time-critical that it will become necessary and feasible to run them on the device.
What are you talking about? The article you link doesn't show any actual numbers or sales data. Just speculation and rumors. In the actual numbers Samsung is still trailing unless you want to add in their entire smartphone lineup to include their low end devices. Don't kid yourself and think the GS3 is outselling the iPhone 5.
If you actually look at Apple's Q2 sales report (the article was posted right here on macrumors), you will see that Apple iPhone sales are UP from the same quarter that they were 1 year ago. Looks like if the bloggers post enough rumor and speculation articles with no facts or numbers to back them up, some people will start accepting them as fact.
The actual numbers still show that the iPhone is outselling every other smartphone so it looks like the small screen is working for them right now. Not saying they won't introduce a larger screen device in the future, but the situation is no where near as doom and gloom as some bloggers would like you to believe.
Sounds like all the 'fresh and stale' mantra is just a skin on iOS. Different color themes and shapes for icons, buttons etc. So the software is the same but different look. Why would that be termed as a revolutionary, I don't think I understand. Changing the fonts, colors, shapes, skins for me is hardly revolutionary or even evolutionary.
I have had nexus just until few months ago and it had Android 4.2. I didn't think of any features in the last few updates were revolutionary, maybe evolutionary for Android.
Pointing out some revolutionary features to make software more efficient would be useful than hoping for change in fonts, colors and shapes every six months.
Interesting picture, though I really do think if Apple make a bigger screen iPhone it would go up to 4.5"-4.7" and they would make it slightly wider.
The jump from 4 to 4.2" will seem unnecessary since it's such a small increase.
I do hope when/if they do, they have the bigger phone as well as a equally or very close to equally powered 4" phone so that people can choose between screens without having to compromise on it's ability to run applications.
i hate how people defend the iPhone size with "oh i can touch all 4 corner with my thumb compare to the galaxy S3." Oh stop whining its not going to kill you 2 use both hand. And you can still use the S3 with one hand if you really wanted to.
So, what about situations when you have only one hand free to use your phone?
I actually prefered the size of the iPhone 4, the iPhone 5's display is less easy to use with one hand.
It's still possible, but less comfortable.
And i bought an iPhone because of "comfortable"!
If i wanted a phone i can hate and detest because of oversights by the manufacturer, i would have gone Android and Google.
(Oh, the "joy" of seeing prices of Japanese apps in the Android marketplace displayed in YEN until 2011. I mean those kinds of oversights and less comfort than on iOS and iPhone)
I actually prefered the size of the iPhone 4, the iPhone 5's display is less easy to use with one hand.
It's still possible, but less comfortable.
And i bought an iPhone because of "comfortable"!
If i wanted a phone i can hate and detest because of oversights by the manufacturer, i would have gone Android and Google.
(Oh, the "joy" of seeing prices of Japanese apps in the Android marketplace displayed in YEN until 2011. I mean those kinds of oversights and less comfort than on iOS and iPhone)