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Why does everyone keep saying that Apple needs to make a bigger iPhone?
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Same here which is why I have Note 3 in mind. A gentleman here mentioned Note 8 the other to which 4G feature will be included soon
i like big screen phones, it's better on the eyes and feels more solid, super happy with my galaxy s3
Love the sleekness of the iPhone 5. I dont use a case. I can sleep with it in my jeans pocket and not even notice it's there. I have an iPad mini for doing tasks for longer periods of time, so the iPhone 5 is used in short periods of time. Checking email, taking pics, playing online poker. Screen size isn't an issue. However, i'd be happy with it being .5" larger, if things like battery life and color saturation and brightness were not negatively impacted.
Why Bigger?
Had the chance to review in my hands an operating Samsung S4 and my current iPhone 5, and although the S4, is a tempting model to the operational savy, it's so big that i found it difficult to handle and use with one hand.
Something my Iphone excels at. It is tempting to have a phablet, but then thats the reason that i bougth the iPad.
I dont think I would buy a phablet iPhone. Better hardware and software definitely yes, but a phablet .
Had the chance to review in my hands an operating Samsung S4 and my current iPhone 5, and although the S4, is a tempting model to the operational savy, it's so big that i found it difficult to handle and use with one hand.
Something my Iphone excels at. It is tempting to have a phablet, but then thats the reason that i bougth the iPad.
I dont think I would buy a phablet iPhone. Better hardware and software definitely yes, but a phablet .
IMO the reason why most of the Androids being used out there don't have massive screens is because a lot of them belong to kids, moms, old folk etc who just buy an Android instead of a feature phone because no one sells feature phones anymore. Most Androids are not high end, remember. Most of them cost less than $500 and look like this:
Or this:
I'd like to see some 3.5"-4" (normal sized) Androids that are high end and are comparable to the iPhone.
Or this:
I'd like to see some 3.5"-4" (normal sized) Androids that are high end and are comparable to the iPhone.
Price doesn't make a phone better than another. And remember, Apple is selling plenty of iPhone 4S and giving away the 4 for free with contract.
Yes - However the quality of most of these low to mid-ranged 3.5"/4" Android phones isn't nearly as good as even the iPhone 4S. This is because they're not designed to be high-end, flagship-quality phones, like the iPhone. They're designed to be a cheaper alternative to the pricey flagship Androids, such as the GS4, HTC1, Note2 etc. I have yet to see any modern 3.5" or 4" Android phone that gets anywhere near the quality of the iPhone OR the larger-screened Androids.
I think the Nexus 4 does a pretty good job. There is nothing cheap about the phone. I own it and a 4S.
As a recent convert from a GS3 and Razr and Droid X2, here's my take on size:
Yeah, having a larger screen has its benefits.
No argument there.
But I don't miss it. In fact the portability and ease of one handed use is better for me than a large, over saturated screen. I love slipping the phone into my pocket, and the S3 didn't allow me to do that in most pairs of jeans/shorts.
I am pretty sure I won't go back to Android as an OS, for many reasons, ever. Dunno how I would feel about a bigger iPhone. I really don't think I'd be that into it. Actually, I prefer the size of the 4S to the 5.
Yeah, having a larger screen has its benefits.
No argument there.
But I don't miss it. In fact the portability and ease of one handed use is better for me than a large, over saturated screen. I love slipping the phone into my pocket, and the S3 didn't allow me to do that in most pairs of jeans/shorts.
I am pretty sure I won't go back to Android as an OS, for many reasons, ever. Dunno how I would feel about a bigger iPhone. I really don't think I'd be that into it. Actually, I prefer the size of the 4S to the 5.
Why does everyone keep saying that Apple needs to make a bigger iPhone?
I think it's a deliberate campaign by the competition to attempt to influence iPhone users to question the functionality of their phones. Supposedly Apple will never make a big phone, so that's what the competition is going after to make us second guess our choices.
They can't go after the seamless ios, or the selection of apps, or the ease of use.
I don't want a larger iPhone. It won't fit in the dedicated slip pocket in my designer handbags!
I think it's a deliberate campaign by the competition to attempt to influence iPhone users to question the functionality of their phones. Supposedly Apple will never make a big phone, so that's what the competition is going after to make us second guess our choices.
They can't go after the seamless ios, or the selection of apps, or the ease of use.
I don't want a larger iPhone. It won't fit in the dedicated slip pocket in my designer handbags!
Screen just right
I have had a larger-screened android device (larger than iPhone 5) for a while now. Yes it is nice. No, I do not prefer it over the perfect balance and lightness of the iPhone 5. Absolute night and day difference when an larger screen is in your pocket. It is big and clunky, very noticeable. I cannot feel an iPhone 5 in my pocket at all, and it fits flawlessly in my hand. So... Why do people keep saying they want a bigger screen on iPhone? Because they are like sheep. Someone says "My phone has a bigger screen!" and they want one too. They just don't realize that its a Fad and they are, in reality, getting a piece of large plastic with a horrible interface and no flow- everything is 3rd party, so nothing flows. Equally, however, there must be options. It makes people choose, and some choices are better than others. All about perspective and intelligence. (i.e. iPhone is a... CELL PHONE, not an iPad. and iPad is a lovely screen to read, view, etc.. (even the iPad mini)... Mac is a... hard working computer... etc...)
I have had a larger-screened android device (larger than iPhone 5) for a while now. Yes it is nice. No, I do not prefer it over the perfect balance and lightness of the iPhone 5. Absolute night and day difference when an larger screen is in your pocket. It is big and clunky, very noticeable. I cannot feel an iPhone 5 in my pocket at all, and it fits flawlessly in my hand. So... Why do people keep saying they want a bigger screen on iPhone? Because they are like sheep. Someone says "My phone has a bigger screen!" and they want one too. They just don't realize that its a Fad and they are, in reality, getting a piece of large plastic with a horrible interface and no flow- everything is 3rd party, so nothing flows. Equally, however, there must be options. It makes people choose, and some choices are better than others. All about perspective and intelligence. (i.e. iPhone is a... CELL PHONE, not an iPad. and iPad is a lovely screen to read, view, etc.. (even the iPad mini)... Mac is a... hard working computer... etc...)
My 4S with a lifeproof case is very similar dimensions as my girlfriends S3 (she needs a more powerful email app then an iPhone for work) without a case. I don't know how small you guys are but this whole pocket issue is getting a little silly and frankly embarrassing.
Now the S4 is out and it has a bigger screen with overall dimension smaller then the S3. But yet its completely unpockable? Gimme a break.
Buy what you like and be happy with it. The Razr M has similar dimensions as an iPhone 5 with a 4.3" screen. If Motorola can do that surely Apple can do something similar right?
Personally I don't care about screen size. I prefer an iPhone and am still using a 4S. I'll probably upgrade to a 5S if it has some cool piece of software exclusive to it. If not I'll keep on enjoying my 4S.
Now the S4 is out and it has a bigger screen with overall dimension smaller then the S3. But yet its completely unpockable? Gimme a break.
Buy what you like and be happy with it. The Razr M has similar dimensions as an iPhone 5 with a 4.3" screen. If Motorola can do that surely Apple can do something similar right?
Personally I don't care about screen size. I prefer an iPhone and am still using a 4S. I'll probably upgrade to a 5S if it has some cool piece of software exclusive to it. If not I'll keep on enjoying my 4S.
People just want something they can better look at media on. I've got something that does exactly that myself, it's called an iPad Mini.
People are tight, they don't want their phones to get bigger for the hell of it, they want to save money by having something that's phone-like that calls & texts, and tablet-like that's better for videos & web browsing all in one device.
Personally I'm the opposite. If I'm going about my day I'd rather a device that's easier to carry and unobtrusive, because I spend more time doing things that don't require the bigger screen (e.g. calling, texting and music) than doing things that do (e.g. videos). Don't get me wrong I do a lot more video as well since we got LTE in the UK, but not enough to warrant a pocket rock.
I don't disagree with a large screen iPhone, I would just never buy one myself. And who do you think Apple caters for more? People who like to save money, or people who like to spend it? They may very well cater for those that want an all in one when the market is much larger, but I don't think it'll happen this year.
People are tight, they don't want their phones to get bigger for the hell of it, they want to save money by having something that's phone-like that calls & texts, and tablet-like that's better for videos & web browsing all in one device.
Personally I'm the opposite. If I'm going about my day I'd rather a device that's easier to carry and unobtrusive, because I spend more time doing things that don't require the bigger screen (e.g. calling, texting and music) than doing things that do (e.g. videos). Don't get me wrong I do a lot more video as well since we got LTE in the UK, but not enough to warrant a pocket rock.
I don't disagree with a large screen iPhone, I would just never buy one myself. And who do you think Apple caters for more? People who like to save money, or people who like to spend it? They may very well cater for those that want an all in one when the market is much larger, but I don't think it'll happen this year.
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Why Apple needs bigger screen
That is a billion dollar question...
iPhone sales are progressively falling, against manufacturers like Samsung.
Why ? Because Apple is still in "lala land" thinking that that puny 4 inch screen does the job and releasing major updates only once in two years.
Bringing in yet another "S" iPhone this fall, with the same screen size will definitely mean FALL (FAIL) for Apple.
$250 for share by next Feb?! Lucky I don't own any, not so sure about the sentiments among the shareholders though ...
That is a billion dollar question...
iPhone sales are progressively falling, against manufacturers like Samsung.
Why ? Because Apple is still in "lala land" thinking that that puny 4 inch screen does the job and releasing major updates only once in two years.
Bringing in yet another "S" iPhone this fall, with the same screen size will definitely mean FALL (FAIL) for Apple.
$250 for share by next Feb?! Lucky I don't own any, not so sure about the sentiments among the shareholders though ...
As others have indicated, these statistics are largely meaningless because the vast majority of the 3.5-4.3" phones are cheap Android devices, the sort of devices that people get for $0 with a contract or $99 without a contract. If you were to look at only devices with a non-contract price of $400 or higher, which is where Apple makes its money, the numbers would look more like this:
Normal (3.5"-4.2") - 70%
Large (4.3"-7") - 30%
Take out iPhone 5 sales and you can probably swap those numbers. You may prefer a 4.0" screen, but there are many, many people with money that want a larger screen. Apple isn't playing in that space, so they are essentially "giving away" that highly lucrative segment of the market to Samsung, etc.
That's probably a bit pessimistic. However, I agree that there is significant downside risk to AAPL -- maybe to $350 -- if Apple sticks with the 4.0" screen for the next year and unveils/enters no new product categories in that time. The U.S. market is now fairly saturated with iPhones, which means Apple depends on upgrades to generate much of its profit. A significant percentage of iPhone 5 users will not upgrade until Apple releases a larger phone.
If Apple were smart, IMO, they would offer an iPhone with an incremental increase in screen size, such as a model with a 4.2-4.3" screen in a IP5-like form factor. That would entice many to upgrade, and then Apple could unveil a larger 4.7-4.8" super-sized model in a year, to get many of those same folks to upgrade again.
Based on current rumors, it sounds like Apple will release a 4.0" iPhone 5S in late September followed by a super-sized 4.7-4.8" iPhone 6 next June/July. From an investor's perspective, this is just a stupid move because it skips an upgrade cycle that could have net tens of billions for Apple and its shareholders.
To the OP,
Why not a larger iPhone. I am sure we are going to see multiple sizes available and it will not hurt if they add a larger phone.
Why not a larger iPhone. I am sure we are going to see multiple sizes available and it will not hurt if they add a larger phone.
Would Apple double up on iPhone manufacturing to offer a larger-screen iPhone in addition to to the 4" phone? Seems like a big risk to take.
They would not need to "double up" as you just have so many customers. Some would buy the original size and other would by the larger size.
Change always has risk and the only reason that Apple would take such a risk is if they did their homework and knew what their customers wanted.
Just remember before the iPhone 5 all the iPhone people were screaming that they would hate and never buy larger iPhone. They proclaimed the world would end!!! Now they wonder how they ever used such a small of a device as the iPhone 4.
Actually, those voices where louder before iPhone 5 and the iPad mini.
The iPhone 5 is big enough to make everything you'll expect from a mobile. Yet small enough to be perfectly portable and unobtrusive.
The iPad mini is small enough to be convenient, but large enough to be used as a tablet.
I can only talk about myself and my own experience. I usually don't browse while on the go, perhaps an occasional webpage or two. Therefore the only real gain that I got with the 4" display is a couple of extra rows on my tweetbot TL.
On the other hand, the iPad mini is big enough to display webpage in a way that I am actually used to.
I don't quite understand how is it better to have a bigger phone, which is harder to carry around, but not quite nice as a Tablet. Perhaps for women who carry a bag everywhere and for really really big men. But for an average 5"10 (like myself) the size seems right.
The iPhone 5 is big enough to make everything you'll expect from a mobile. Yet small enough to be perfectly portable and unobtrusive.
The iPad mini is small enough to be convenient, but large enough to be used as a tablet.
I can only talk about myself and my own experience. I usually don't browse while on the go, perhaps an occasional webpage or two. Therefore the only real gain that I got with the 4" display is a couple of extra rows on my tweetbot TL.
On the other hand, the iPad mini is big enough to display webpage in a way that I am actually used to.
I don't quite understand how is it better to have a bigger phone, which is harder to carry around, but not quite nice as a Tablet. Perhaps for women who carry a bag everywhere and for really really big men. But for an average 5"10 (like myself) the size seems right.
I agree with you. How do people handle bigger phones and why do they want them?!
However you are incorrect. The size of the 4/4S is right and the iPhone 5 is too big.
See what I did there?