Why does iPod touch 5th gen only have A5 and not A6?

Discussion in 'iPod touch' started by cooper56, Sep 29, 2012.

  1. cooper56 macrumors newbie

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    Seriously this actually makes me angry. I have iphone 4s im still on my contract and cant upgrade to iphone 5 for another 6 months without paying extra fee on 100 some dollars on top of iphone. I was going to get ipod touch 5th gen and use it as sort of gaming machine and music player as well as keeping my old iphone 4 but it seems like they really screwed over people who wanted the ihpone 5 with no monthly payments which is what ipod touch always has been its like were getting iphone 4s not iphone 5 should be 4.5th generation since its not on iphone 5 quality.

    Does any one know why they did this is there actual reason other than they would sell less iphones.
     
  2. Ozonekill macrumors newbie

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    I'd love to know the real reason. It's likely cause selling old hardware saves them lots of money. I wonder how much adding a 5MP camera lens added to the manufacturing cost.
     
  3. IllIllIll macrumors 6502a

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    That's exactly the reason why. In business it's called "product positioning". When a company makes different products, it needs to be extremely careful about making sure that its lower priced product doesn't cannibalize sales of its higher priced, premium product. If Apple made its iPod Touch exactly like the iPhone minus the phone/cellular data capabilities, it would take away a lot of incentive for those on the fence to buy the iPhone over the iPod Touch.

    This isn't a conspiracy, it's just business sense.
     
  4. acorntoy macrumors 6502a

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    This.

    When it sells apple gets $300. (Minimum)
    When the iPhone 5 sells apple gets $650. (Minimum)

    The iPod touch is aimed for people that want a simple device that can listen to music/play games/take a quick picture and don't pay attention to specs.
     
  5. silversun macrumors newbie

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    iPad user here, wondering why the tiny iPhone spec is more powerful than my iPad 3 (A6 vs A5x):rolleyes:
    The reason could be simple...iPhone is the best-selling products of Apple. They don't want other competitors to get ahead of them...just to attract more new users and maintain current users' loyalty.

    btw, Ipod touch basically has no real competitors in music player category.
    This also makes sense, the profit margin Apple makes with each iPhone is larger than other products

    Seriously, iPod touch 5th gen is a huge improvement over the 4th gen already. What do you expect?
     
  6. superdudeo macrumors regular

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    The above poster explains exactly why they do it but thankfully with the iPhone 5, there's no reason to be annoyed. The difference in real world speed in A5 vs A6 is negligible. The A5 is still perfectly acceptable and for that reason I'm happy to pay half the price of the iPhone 5 for it.
     
  7. watchthisspace macrumors 6502a

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    I would think it's because Apple's partner's cannot produce enough A6 SoC's to go in the iPhone 5 and the 5th gen iPod touch.

    I doubt it has anything to do with cannibalization of the iPhone purely because 98% of Apple's customers don't care at all for the specs inside the iPod touch.
     
  8. dchao macrumors 6502a

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    isn't that the ONLY reason? :D Apple is just one of the thousands of greedy companies that exists in the US. They are working hard for their shareholders.
     
  9. coolguy879 macrumors member

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    I know the iPhone 5 has the A6 but couldn't the iPod touch 5G at least get the A5X?
     
  10. ZacT94 macrumors regular

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    I'm annoyed too. The iPod touch 4g was the exact same as the iPhone 4, minus cellular and equal camera. I'm just going to get the iPhone 5 on contract instead as it's free on most contracts in Australia.
     
  11. cooper56 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Bad move they make less money.

    Im not buying iphone 5 i ll get next update maybe iphone 5s or iphone 6 w/e its called in year or so. They lose out because i would bought ipod touch which gives them some money at least vs nothing so tell me how it makes them more money or am i one few who wont upgrade.
     
  12. sracer macrumors 604

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    No it wasn't. Do more research.
     
  13. cooper56 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Okay i might buy ipod 5th gen any way. Im just wondering does any one know any other differences? So its just the a6 chip and fact i dont use 3g or cellular. It has siri and same camera etc right?
     
  14. ZacT94 macrumors regular

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    I take it the you are talking about the 200MHz difference between the two?
     
  15. AdrianK macrumors 68020

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    It also had half the RAM and a lower quality display (non IPS I believe).
     
  16. ZacT94 macrumors regular

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    I never saw that anywhere. I thought that the iPod touch 4g and iPhone 4 both had 256MB RAM and non IPS displays. I knew that the iPod touch had 800MHz A4 and iPhone 4 had 1 GHz A4.
     
  17. viperGTS macrumors 68000

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    Actually, the iPhone 4 DID have an IPS display, and had 512 MB of RAM. Both devices were clocked at 800 MHz.
     
  18. ZacT94 macrumors regular

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    EveryMac.com has a table showing the differences between the iPod Touch 4 and the iPhone 4:
    http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...between-4th-gen-ipod-touch-iphone-4-ipad.html

    They don't have one comparing the iPod Touch 5 and iPhone 5 yet, probably because it's not released so there are still a few details we're not completely sure about yet.

    Yup, Apple said that the iPod Touch 5 supports Siri:
    http://www.apple.com/ipod-touch/built-in-apps/

    They said that it's a 5 megapixel camera (compared to 8MP of the iPhone 5) without being any more specific except that it does appear to share many of the optical (lens) similarities of the iPhone 5. My concern is that because the iPod Touch 5 is a much thinner device than any iPhone, there could be image quality compromises made to fit all those components in a thinner size; thinner is not always better, especially when cameras are involved. But that's my speculation, and we won't know for sure until it comes out. There are no full resolution images taken with the iPod Touch 5 loose in the wild for us to examine.

    Honestly, the A5 is still plenty powerful for the iPod Touch. The A6 would have been very nice but I understand Apple's need for product differentiation and I don't feel like it's a compromise solution. Keeping the 4th gen around, now that's a compromise solution. Someone mentioned the A5X. It's the same CPU as the regular A5 but with bumped up graphics and a significantly faster bus to accommodate the insanity of that is its 2048 x 1536 display, so the iPod Touch wouldn't benefit as much from the A5X since it's display has no where nearly that many pixels.
     
  20. IllIllIll macrumors 6502a

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    And your post only shows that 98% of statistics are completely made up.

    Do you have any evidence to back up what you're saying, or are you just pulling this out of thin air?
     
  21. watchthisspace macrumors 6502a

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    Actually I did pull it out of thin air. I'm sorry you got upset over it.
     
  22. brendu macrumors 68020

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    Apple has to use the A5 to keep costs down or else they have to make less money on each Touch sold. I understand Apple's position and it makes sense. The new Touch is still a great machine with basically NO competition.
     
  23. IllIllIll, Sep 30, 2012
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    IllIllIll macrumors 6502a

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    Actually I didn't get upset. I'm sorry you got all butthurt because you got called out for making baseless, ignorant statements.
     
  24. watchthisspace macrumors 6502a

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    I'll take out a very scientific study to see what percentage of people actually know/care the specs of their iPhone is :) What I'll do is ask every person I see with an iPhone while I work, if they know the specs of their iPhone, aside from camera and how much storage. I'll then make a nice graph of these results and send them to you.

    Also, it was one statement.

    Thanks!
     

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