Why does the touchbar receive so much hate?

[throAU]

I both agree and disagree. First - where I agree is the relative price of MBP due to TB. I agree the difference without the TB would be $100 at maximum (note that Apple may decide to offer a, say, $300-500 cheaper 15" without the TB, but it would most likely come with a lower clocked CPU, worse GPU, smaller drive, etc - this difference would not be due to the lack of TB).

My point here is that a lot of people on this forum seem to think that the MBP would cost just as the old one (as it did in 2015) if Apple didn't include the TB. I am convinced that is not the case. I believe Apple had a price (plus that 30% or greater margin) set from the beginning, then just built the best computer they could (or believed to be the best) around that price.

Nah. The cost of technology comes down over time.

Pretty sure that Apple raised prices on the 2015 13" Macbook Pro (at least in the AU store) while it was still on sale (not sure if it still is, but it was for some time after the touchbar machines were released). In order to replace my 2015 machine with the same spec machine in 2016 would have cost me more money (i checked). For an identical machine.

Even more money if i wanted equivalent tier in the model lineup at the time.

I think Apple are trying to force people into the ipad Pro instead.

 

[aevan]

Nah. The cost of technology comes down over time.

Pretty sure that Apple raised prices on the 2015 13" Macbook Pro (at least in the AU store) while it was still on sale (not sure if it still is, but it was for some time after the touchbar machines were released). In order to replace my 2015 machine with the same spec machine in 2016 would have cost me more money (i checked). For an identical machine.

Even more money if i wanted equivalent tier in the model lineup at the time.

I think Apple are trying to force people into the ipad Pro instead.

Technology is cheaper, but the price is dictated by the market. Cheap devices are becoming cheaper, but premium devices are becoming more expensive, in order to drive profits.

I'm not defending this, this is just how things are. It has to do with demand.

Apple is not raising prices to force people into iPad Pro, because they are a profit driven company and not a 10 year old child

 

[Ethosik]

New tech costs a premium, more mature tech generally reduces in cost. Really it all boils down to the value point of the individual. Personally I have reasons why I wont purchase the new MBP, equally the price point is not one of them..

Q-6

And the P3 color gamut display is new technology. Just like I can get 1080p monitors ranging from $50 to $700. Same resolution, but different technology used.