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astrostu

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It seems ridiculous to me that I can buy a $65 external that does this while the internal one Apple ships doesn't.

Any ideas?
 
What's your point? Look at the specs - it does DVD-R DL, but NOT DVD+R DL.

from my mac pro:

SONY DVD RW DW-D150A:

Firmware Revision: 1.MD
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds
 
Tech Specs

16x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
  • Writes DVD-R discs at up to 16x speed
  • Writes DVD+R DL discs at up to 8x speed
  • Reads DVDs at up to 16x speed
  • Writes CD-R discs at up to 32x speed
  • Writes CD-RW discs at up to 24x speed
  • Reads CDs at up to 32x speed
 
from my mac pro:

SONY DVD RW DW-D150A:

Firmware Revision: 1.MD
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds


You're lucky. The Mac Pro I have at work (bought this year) does not write +R DL. I've tried and I've looked up the specs and it's not supported.

Though now, when I go to the Apple Store's site, click on "Learn More" on the optical drive, it states:

Write: DVD±R up to 16x, double-layer DVD+R up to 8x, CD-R up to 32x and CD-RW up to 24x

So now my question's changed: Why would they cut out DVD-R DL? And yours also has no -R DL?
 
My crusty old dual 2ghz g5 mac pro has +R DL burning capabilities which I only discovered a few weeks ago to my delight.
 
It seems ridiculous to me that I can buy a $65 external that does this while the internal one Apple ships doesn't.

Any ideas?

The + media DL disks are the only ones I've ever seen for DL media. And, they burn just fine in my Mac Pro.

Where are you finding that your drive won't do it?

So now my question's changed: Why would they cut out DVD-R DL? And yours also has no -R DL?

I don't think that they cut support for minus media DL disks. I've never seen a drive that said it supported minus media DL disks. And, I've never seen minus media DL disks for sale.

Perhaps your drive is just defective?
 
I don't think that they cut support for minus media DL disks. I've never seen a drive that said it supported minus media DL disks. And, I've never seen minus media DL disks for sale.

Perhaps your drive is just defective?

That was my impression as well.
 
DVDR- DL disks exists but are much less common and are generally slower (4x) compared with to DVDR+ DL disks which are commonly available at 8x speeds.

It would be very unusual for a drive to only support DVDR- DL disks. Some confusion, surely.
 
Does anyone realise a "superdrive" is a dvd-writer drive?? Just buy one for £15 from the web if you want those formats.... Or get a blueray drive for £100 if you cant wait, itll all work fine, as long as youve got the software.
 
:D

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D:

Firmware Revision: 1.21
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
Cache: 2000 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds

All Mac Pro's support +R DL, some support -R DL, some support both.
 
I don't think that they cut support for minus media DL disks. I've never seen a drive that said it supported minus media DL disks. And, I've never seen minus media DL disks for sale.

Perhaps your drive is just defective?

You have obviously never seen the drive in the mighty Mac mini ;)

System Profiler said:
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K06:

Firmware Revision: Q614
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
Cache: 2000 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds



Why do you care about +DL? ... -DL is better, works on every DVD player, the +'s are the ones that are hesitant I thought?

You are wrong there, with dual layer discs, +R DL is the better option.

:D

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D:

Firmware Revision: 1.21
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
Cache: 2000 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds

I've got a FireWire one of those too :D

System Profiler said:
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D:

Firmware Revision: 1.22
Interconnect: FireWire
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
Cache: 2000 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds
 
G5 Mac Pro?

*sigh*... guys, do you think the OP also doesn't really have a Mac Pro?
doh. i had mac pros on the brain with all the recent hope of an announcement. obviously i meant "my crusty old dual 2ghz g5 powermac, that i'm yearning to upgrade to a shiny new mac pro once they announce the new model, has +R DL burning capabilities which I only discovered a few weeks ago to my delight"
 
I got scared reading the title cause I bought a 5 pack of DVD+R DL yesterday but checked the Tech Specs and SuperDrive supports DVD+R DL!

EDIT:
MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-857E:

Firmware Revision: ZB0E
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO
Media: No
 
I have a new 20' iMac and I have never been able to burn a DL DVD+ disc yet!
I get nothing but errors with my DYNEX discs on either my La Cie DL DVD or the one that came with my Mac. That is after 8 attempts. It could be the Dynex brand, but I think at least one would be good!:confused:
 
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