Why Doesn't the Superdrive Do DVD+R DL?

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by astrostu, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. astrostu macrumors 6502

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    It seems ridiculous to me that I can buy a $65 external that does this while the internal one Apple ships doesn't.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. product26 macrumors 6502a

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    FROM THE APPLE STORE WEBSITE

    "16x double-layer SuperDrive"
     
  3. astrostu thread starter macrumors 6502

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    What's your point? Look at the specs - it does DVD-R DL, but NOT DVD+R DL.
     
  4. product26 macrumors 6502a

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    from my mac pro:

    SONY DVD RW DW-D150A:

    Firmware Revision: 1.MD
    Interconnect: ATAPI
    Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
    Cache: 2048 KB
    Reads DVD: Yes
    CD-Write: -R, -RW
    DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
    Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
    Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds
     
  5. WildCowboy Administrator/Editor

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    Tech Specs

     
  6. product26 macrumors 6502a

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    yep

    "16x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)"
     
  7. astrostu thread starter macrumors 6502

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    You're lucky. The Mac Pro I have at work (bought this year) does not write +R DL. I've tried and I've looked up the specs and it's not supported.

    Though now, when I go to the Apple Store's site, click on "Learn More" on the optical drive, it states:

    So now my question's changed: Why would they cut out DVD-R DL? And yours also has no -R DL?
     
  8. WildCowboy Administrator/Editor

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    Hmm...the Mac Pro has always supported only the +R DL format. (See the bottom of Apple's press release.)
     
  9. product26 macrumors 6502a

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    what brand of drive is in yours? maybe a firmware flash will fix it.
     
  10. eviltobz macrumors member

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    My crusty old dual 2ghz g5 mac pro has +R DL burning capabilities which I only discovered a few weeks ago to my delight.
     
  11. flyinmac macrumors 68030

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    The + media DL disks are the only ones I've ever seen for DL media. And, they burn just fine in my Mac Pro.

    Where are you finding that your drive won't do it?

    I don't think that they cut support for minus media DL disks. I've never seen a drive that said it supported minus media DL disks. And, I've never seen minus media DL disks for sale.

    Perhaps your drive is just defective?
     
  12. dkoralek macrumors 6502

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    That was my impression as well.
     
  13. trancepriest macrumors 6502

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    So diplomatic... lol.
     
  14. darthraige macrumors 68000

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    Why do you care about +DL? ... -DL is better, works on every DVD player, the +'s are the ones that are hesitant I thought?
     
  15. chaos86 macrumors 65816

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    i cant wait to see this exact same argument in 4 years over HD-DVD and BluRay
     
  16. weckart macrumors 68040

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    DVDR- DL disks exists but are much less common and are generally slower (4x) compared with to DVDR+ DL disks which are commonly available at 8x speeds.

    It would be very unusual for a drive to only support DVDR- DL disks. Some confusion, surely.
     
  17. TheThirdMan macrumors regular

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    Does anyone realise a "superdrive" is a dvd-writer drive?? Just buy one for £15 from the web if you want those formats.... Or get a blueray drive for £100 if you cant wait, itll all work fine, as long as youve got the software.
     
  18. Jade Cambell macrumors 6502

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    G5 Mac Pro?

    *sigh*... guys, do you think the OP also doesn't really have a Mac Pro?
     
  19. Transeau macrumors 6502a

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    :D

    PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D:

    Firmware Revision: 1.21
    Interconnect: ATAPI
    Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
    Cache: 2000 KB
    Reads DVD: Yes
    CD-Write: -R, -RW
    DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
    Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
    Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds

    All Mac Pro's support +R DL, some support -R DL, some support both.
     
  20. OllyW Moderator

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    You have obviously never seen the drive in the mighty Mac mini ;)



    You are wrong there, with dual layer discs, +R DL is the better option.

    I've got a FireWire one of those too :D

     
  21. eviltobz macrumors member

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    doh. i had mac pros on the brain with all the recent hope of an announcement. obviously i meant "my crusty old dual 2ghz g5 powermac, that i'm yearning to upgrade to a shiny new mac pro once they announce the new model, has +R DL burning capabilities which I only discovered a few weeks ago to my delight"
     
  22. Transeau macrumors 6502a

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    it's not firewire... internal

     
  23. OllyW Moderator

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    I know yours is internal, it's mine that's FireWire. It's exactly the same drive though.
     
  24. phungy macrumors 68020

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    I got scared reading the title cause I bought a 5 pack of DVD+R DL yesterday but checked the Tech Specs and SuperDrive supports DVD+R DL!

    EDIT:
    MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-857E:

    Firmware Revision: ZB0E
    Interconnect: ATAPI
    Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported)
    Cache: 2048 KB
    Reads DVD: Yes
    CD-Write: -R, -RW
    DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL
    Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
    Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
    Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO
    Media: No
     
  25. Gaelic1 macrumors member

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    I have a new 20' iMac and I have never been able to burn a DL DVD+ disc yet!
    I get nothing but errors with my DYNEX discs on either my La Cie DL DVD or the one that came with my Mac. That is after 8 attempts. It could be the Dynex brand, but I think at least one would be good!:confused:
     

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