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Youtube usage is far from the basis of which an iPhone should be judged.



720p: 920,000 pixels
iPhone 11: 1,555,000 pixels
1080p: 2,073,000 pixels

Yup, math checks out. Although the iPhone 11 has a pixel count closer to 1080p, it is basically 720p.
I remember buying an "HD" 720P television for 2K and thinking it was freaking awesome... Wow I feel old LOL
 
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Youtube usage is far from the basis of which an iPhone should be judged.



720p: 920,000 pixels
iPhone 11: 1,555,000 pixels
1080p: 2,073,000 pixels

Yup, math checks out. Although the iPhone 11 has a pixel count closer to 1080p, it is basically 720p.

The iPhone's curved and notched screen wastes a lot of pixels. When viewing at a 16:9 ratio you get just a bit more than 720p
 
standard for Apple is not the standard of the world. 720p youtube was the best long long time ago....
That was not what I meant. I was saying Apple has high volume fabrication of 326 ppi LCD screens and also uses 401 ppi LCD screens for plus models. For what they wanted in the XR and 11 they could use either one. But consider that maybe Apple can't ramp up the 401 ppi LCD screen to the volume they need (we just don't know). Apple always goes with the LCD fab that they can scale up in production, hence holding onto the 326 ppi LCD screen for iPhones and 264 ppi LCD screen for iPads. I think Apple might have gone with the 401 ppi LCD screen if they could (or you might give cynical reasons why Apple choose not to). As to LCD vs OLED dpi has always been a source of contention, with OLED having less subpixels in the same screen area, but I guess software can do lots of good things to compensate this in OLED displays, and sure OLED are usually higher in resolution so this compensates for the lack of subpixels. Personally 326 dpi IPS LCD still look fine to me, as I don't put my phone that close in front of my eyes, but I guess other people do and that's fine and OLED is the way to go for them.
 
Is that a U.S. thing? Phone companies over there are even bigger rip-offs than Apple...

we know you hate the world and all.



Some Phone providers call it a data stream saver feature lol.

I can stream 1080P just fine. No data caps, hot spot, and 37 channels of live data free tv with HBO premium for free. My (3) lines cost $160.
 
For few replies above, 828p is not much better than 720p and far from 1080p and that is "720p" for world standard. I have no idea why Youtube let iPhone cheats with showing a 1080p option but actually it down scales to "720p", may be that would let iphone 11/xr users feel much better.
 
For people decrying the low resolution of the iPhone 11, I am curious as to what you think a “good” resolution ought to be.

Correct me if I am wrong here, but to my understanding, the iPhone has a base resolution of 896x414 pixels. The iphone 11’s screen resolution of 1792x828 is double of that (including the elongated screen), which is basically how you get your 326PPI. Just like how the 11 Pro Max’s screen’s resolution of 2688x1242 is triple that of the original (896x414).

This allows the iPhone 11 to display everything on the screen without having to do any resizing or downsampling on the fly, saving processor power and just as importantly, extending its battery life. You are not going to get the same benefit by going with any other resolution, including the oft-cited 1080p resolution display, which the previous plus models achieved by downsizing from 2208x1242.

And from what I can see, the iphone 11 enjoys the battery life that it does partly due to its lower-resolution display (and the lack of a Taptic Engine allowing for a larger battery).

I feel that Apple made the right compromises here.
 
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That was not what I meant. I was saying Apple has high volume fabrication of 326 ppi LCD screens and also uses 401 ppi LCD screens for plus models. For what they wanted in the XR and 11 they could use either one. But consider that maybe Apple can't ramp up the 401 ppi LCD screen to the volume they need (we just don't know). Apple always goes with the LCD fab that they can scale up in production, hence holding onto the 326 ppi LCD screen for iPhones and 264 ppi LCD screen for iPads. I think Apple might have gone with the 401 ppi LCD screen if they could (or you might give cynical reasons why Apple choose not to). As to LCD vs OLED dpi has always been a source of contention, with OLED having less subpixels in the same screen area, but I guess software can do lots of good things to compensate this in OLED displays, and sure OLED are usually higher in resolution so this compensates for the lack of subpixels. Personally 326 dpi IPS LCD still look fine to me, as I don't put my phone that close to my eyes, but I guess other people do and that's fine and OLED is the way to go for them.
I know there's some issue with scaling that has to do with what resolution Apple chooses.
 
That was not what I meant. I was saying Apple has high volume fabrication of 326 ppi LCD screens and also uses 401 ppi LCD screens for plus models. For what they wanted in the XR and 11 they could use either one. But consider that maybe Apple can't ramp up the 401 ppi LCD screen to the volume they need (we just don't know). Apple always goes with the LCD fab that they can scale up in production, hence holding onto the 326 ppi LCD screen for iPhones and 264 ppi LCD screen for iPads. I think Apple might have gone with the 401 ppi LCD screen if they could (or you might give cynical reasons why Apple choose not to). As to LCD vs OLED dpi has always been a source of contention, with OLED having less subpixels in the same screen area, but I guess software can do lots of good things to compensate this in OLED displays, and sure OLED are usually higher in resolution so this compensates for the lack of subpixels. Personally 326 dpi IPS LCD still look fine to me, as I don't put my phone that close to my eyes, but I guess other people do and that's fine and OLED is the way to go for them.

1920x1080 on the iPhone 6 Plus 7 Plus and 8 plus were 401ppi @5.5”. That would have stretched too going to 6.1”

so around 361ppi
 
The fact Apple can't even deliver 1080p in a $900 phone in 2019 is a joke.

Actually is $699.
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And I have a 6S+ still running as new with iOS 13.1.1 and is 1080p.
 
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For few replies above, 828p is not much better than 720p and far from 1080p and that is "720p" for world standard. I have no idea why Youtube let iPhone cheats with showing a 1080p option but actually it down scales to "720p", may be that would let iphone 11/xr users feel much better.
I can see a class action lawsuit against Google. They basically lied to iPhone XR users! If you add up all the videos one would have watched in a year how many pixels did YouTube cheat it's audience out of just to get more views. I believe this is malicious because how easy would it be to remove the 1080P toggle.
 
I can see a class action lawsuit against Google. They basically lied to iPhone XR users! If you add up all the videos one would have watched in a year how many pixels did YouTube cheat it's audience out of just to get more views. I believe this is malicious because how easy would it be to remove the 1080P toggle.

Crazy many people would really just believe their XR/11 are 1080p just because they see the 1080p option in youtube video option.
 
Not what happened. Definitely not.

Apple raised the price of the iPhone, which has historically been $650. Apple decided to raise it to $1,000 adding features which are available in devices for a much lower price. ...

That was 3 generations ago. All the flagships are $1k or over, Apple, Samsung, Google, LG... Of course you can buy a much better Samsung foldable for $1,980. WHAT! Where’s the cheaper foldable at $600 with all the features? I demand it!

But where you really get taken by the competition is when you trade in. The initial price difference is peanuts compared to the two year old value of an iPhone vs an Android.

So how cheap/expensive is the IPhone 11? The original iPhone was $599 for 8GB in 2007. Accounting for inflation that’s $741 in 2019 dollars. So you’d rather have the original iPhone over the 11 at $699? Or even an 11 Pro at $999? Huh.
 
For few replies above, 828p is not much better than 720p and far from 1080p and that is "720p" for world standard. I have no idea why Youtube let iPhone cheats with showing a 1080p option but actually it down scales to "720p", may be that would let iphone 11/xr users feel much better.

Already mentioned, but let's give it another go:

720p: 920,000 pixels
iPhone 11: 1,484,000 pixels
1080p: 2,073,000 pixels


iPhone 11 has ~564,000 more pixels than 720p, and ~589,000 less pixels than 1080p.

"not much better than 720p and far from 1080p" hmmm

(Edited as I used wrong value for pixel count)
 
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1920x1080 on the iPhone 6 Plus 7 Plus and 8 plus were 401ppi @5.5”. That would have stretched too going to 6.1”

so around 361ppi
No, Apple always use the same ppi LCD fab, so the ppi stays the same, but the resolution constantly changes. iPhone plus also have 16:9 screens, and XR and 11 19.5:9 screens. So I don't know what the resolution would become at that aspect ratio and with the same 401 ppi. Apple cuts different sizes from the same LCD panels, hence all iPads have 264 ppi screens, and iPhones 326 ppi except for the plus models, and only the resolution has increased through the years.
 
Actually is $699.
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And I have a 6S+ still running as new with iOS 13.1.1 and is 1080p.

$849 for 256 GB which is standard on most other phones. Add in an Apple case and you're at $900. Or over $1000 if you fall for the AppleCare scam. You also don't get the fast charger in the box.
we know you hate the world and all.



Some Phone providers call it a data stream saver feature lol.

I can stream 1080P just fine. No data caps, hot spot, and 37 channels of live data free tv with HBO premium for free. My (3) lines cost $160.

$160/year is a good deal
 
I looked at an iPhone 11 pro screen today and compared it to my XR. I could tell a very slight difference but I had to look hard. I feel this screen resolution thing is way overblown.
 
$849 for 256 GB which is standard on most other phones. Add in an Apple case and you're at $900. Or over $1000 if you fall for the AppleCare scam. You also don't get the fast charger in the box.


$160/year is a good deal

No Apple hate going on here LOL.... I can see this thread quickly turning into an Apple sucks thread
 
$849 for 256 GB which is standard on most other phones. Add in an Apple case and you're at $900. Or over $1000 if you fall for the AppleCare scam. You also don't get the fast charger in the box.


$160/year is a good deal

Not really
mi9 256gb is only around $420USD
Apple $900 is more than 200% of that
and the phone has 2340 x 1080, not iphone 11 "720p"
 
I looked at an iPhone 11 pro screen today and compared it to my XR. I could tell a very slight difference but I had to look hard. I feel this screen resolution thing is way overblown.
It's just one of the few things people that don't own iPhones can find to complain about.
Not really
mi9 256gb is only around $420USD
Apple $900 is more than 200% of that
and the phone has 2340 x 1080, not iphone 11 "720p"
So you made a thread in an Apple fourm to tell everyone that Android phones are cheaper... I didn't know this so thanks for the information. I'm going to go Android phone shopping right this minute :D
 
I do not go on android forums claiming superior that’s for sure. But, I guess my Pro Max 256gb sucks. I didn’t know that?? I thought it was the fastest phone around, with the best camera on the market in a phone.

boy was I wrong!!
 
Not really
mi9 256gb is only around $420USD
Apple $900 is more than 200% of that
and the phone has 2340 x 1080, not iphone 11 "720p"

mi9 has 403 ppi, better than 2K resolution.
iPhone 11? "720p" in year 2019
 
The iPhone XR was $749 with LCD

the Galaxy S10E was $749 with LCD

what are you even talking about?

phones are priced according to what features they have. Apple has even reduced the price of the iPhone 11 to $699

If you want AMOLED you can spend $999 and buy one a S10 or a iPhone 11 Pro
I don’t what your talking about but their are plenty of low end Samsung’s, Google and One Plus phones with OLEDS.
and no, if I want zoomed screen mode and I cannot simply waste a grand on a ‘Pro’ iPhone, is your opinion is wrong as iPhones are not priced according to features, because the 5.8” iPhone lacks zoomed screen mode, the 6.1” does not, opine is far cheaper, and the Max is a stupid size that is way too big.
 
I do not go on android forums claiming superior that’s for sure. But, I guess my Pro Max 256gb sucks. I didn’t know that?? I thought it was the fastest phone around, with the best camera on the market in a phone.

boy was I wrong!!

Chinese phone has the best dxo score now which means Chinese phone has the best phone camera, this may makes you feel sad but sadly it is true.
 
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