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Why is Apple so damn stubborn to never include notification LED in its iPhone brand?
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I think one of the main reasons is the lack of sophistication of those arguing for the led. The main point repeated over and over again is those that don't want it are "fanboys". It's a childish and not very intelligent argument. Most of us just don't see the need for it. Accept that for what it's worth.
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You assume most posters here are "fanboys". Are you 10?
Well, they are "so 2012" because the last MacBook to feature the sleep indicator was the Mid-2012 cMBP...
I missed the notification LED of my flip phone when I first switched to the original iPhone. I eventually got used to having to check all the time. I wouldn't mind having the option. Maybe they could give the front-facing camera a flash and have that double as a notification LED.
They could do it in software: have a configurable amount of times/frequency to have the screen come up with notifications and have one option to do it infinitely until you use your phone again or press one of it's buttons.
What I don't want is a light blinking at night. The one on my cordless phone currently drives me crazy and I often shove it in a drawer.
Ideally what I'd like is tiny e-ink display that showed notifications so I can glance at my phone without touching it, but I don't think we'd ever see that in an iPhone as it would be hard to do that elegantly.
They could do it in software: have a configurable amount of times/frequency to have the screen come up with notifications and have one option to do it infinitely until you use your phone again or press one of it's buttons.
What I don't want is a light blinking at night. The one on my cordless phone currently drives me crazy and I often shove it in a drawer.
Ideally what I'd like is tiny e-ink display that showed notifications so I can glance at my phone without touching it, but I don't think we'd ever see that in an iPhone as it would be hard to do that elegantly.
Instead of a notification light they could make the ring around the home button on TouchID devices glow or change colour or something. Then when you activated Siri it could flash there instead and when it was reading your fingerprint do a circle around it or something. Now that would be Apple. They probably don't like the thought of a blinking LED... Or they could put an elongated one where the earpiece is so that it was unnoticeable as it was hid behind a mesh...
I can't wait to get my job at Apple <3
I can't wait to get my job at Apple <3
Wait, what?? The argument for is easy to follow, even you can comprehend it I think. I think where you're getting lost is that you continue to rail against a feature that most "non fanboys" find basic and useful.
This is pretty much my feeling on it.
Honestly, way back in the day when a cellphone mostly just had calls or maybe texts to you it could be useful. You knew that you missed a call or text. These days there is so much the phone does, how do you know if hte blinking light is a reminder to do something, a call, a text, an email, a notification from one of your apps?
Plus, even if it is just a call or text, unless you don't get many calls or texts, it doesn't tell you how many calls or texts you got unless you are constantly checking it. And if you are constantly checking it, why is it so hard to hit the power button or home button to turn the screen on?
Honestly, most people use their smartphones for so much a blinking light really doesn't tell you much and most likely would be blinking all the time. Unless you are meticulous about checking your phone a lot and then, well, I would think you'd be turning it on to see what just came in anyways.
This is true. I'm currently using the M8 and while it does have a notification led, the lock screen messages are a joke.
Instead of a notification light they could make the ring around the home button on TouchID devices glow or change colour or something. Then when you activated Siri it could flash there instead and when it was reading your fingerprint do a circle around it or something. Now that would be Apple. They probably don't like the thought of a blinking LED... Or they could put an elongated one where the earpiece is so that it was unnoticeable as it was hid behind a mesh...
I can't wait to get my job at Apple <3
Now this would be pretty awesome and more useful. You could even have it be a different color for different things (green for call, blue for text, yellow for app notification).
Right, wouldn't it be nice if you could configure the phone to only alert you for the notifications you're interested in. Hmm, maybe in 2008 they'll figure out how to let us do that.
Yeah and like in the dark you could see which way up your phone was... And how awesome would the spinning be omg xD
First this.
Then this:
This is exactly what I was referring to about people having a knee-jerk reaction without knowing how it works.
In this case we went from essentially calling it useless and then "awesome" when the color of the light meant something. Doesn't matter that the color of the light meaning something was pointed out many times in this thread--it was ignored.
But wrap that feature in an iPhone and, wow, it is awesome.
Michael
Is that supposed to be an argument for it? That it's favored by "non fanboys"?
I guess that logic works in the 4th or 5th grade recess . Sorry, I'm an adult, it's a worthless argument to me.
hint: I have not railed against any feature.
Best of luck in your future endeavors.
i am an android hater
just do you know..people who are writing off the LED notifications are just plain ignorant.
it serves a good purpose and it's something i wish my iPhone had for as long as i can remember. i don't like waking up my phone all the time to see if i got a notification. also, i like to leave DND on, so if i just had an LED notification rather than my entire screen lighting up, then that would be cool.
What's amazing, is that you seem to think that everyone is against it, until Apple implements it in some way, then we are all for it. People are different. Some people see a need for it (you), some people don't (me) and some people would like to have it, just not as a generic LED blinking (ring around the TouchID/Home button).
Instead, you simply see Apple fanboys, because they don't instantly agree with you. What a sad, little existence.
Thought the OP had a legit thread until I read all his "you're a fanboy" comments. Shame you have to resort to juvenile tactics to discredit others and debate your point.
I've never had a smartphone with an LED notification, so I couldn't say whether or not I'd find it a useful feature. What I'm accustomed to is setting notifications for what I want to be notified of. It's pretty easy to click the home button to see what I've missed. Though I can certainly see how a blinking red light or green light could tell you what you needed to know from afar. Include it or don't, it isn't a dealbreaker for me.
I've never had a smartphone with an LED notification, so I couldn't say whether or not I'd find it a useful feature. What I'm accustomed to is setting notifications for what I want to be notified of. It's pretty easy to click the home button to see what I've missed. Though I can certainly see how a blinking red light or green light could tell you what you needed to know from afar. Include it or don't, it isn't a dealbreaker for me.
I don't buy that as the reason for the pulsating LED. Do you really think majority of Mac users know anything about HDDs and would know to wait for the disk to stop spinning before throwing it around? Even as someone who knows how hard drives work I never did/do this. Any hard drive built in the last decade or so has an accelerometer that monitors G-forces and will park the head if need be. It's REALLY hard to ruin a hard drive due to movement.
The original hard drive in my 2010 Macbook Pro was actually really annoying because it would click loudly when the head was parked. From first day of owning it it made the noise, even took it to the Apple store and they replaced the hard drive. Still clicked. You'd be amazed how sensitive it is too, even the smallest shift with it on my lap you could hear it park the head. And for the record that hard drive is still operating just fine in an external enclosure.
Newsflash: it has not been a "generic LED blinking" notification light since Blackberry days.
And I never use the word fanboy or fan anything. Nice job there too. When you have nothing of value to argue reach for the f word...
Mike
Why not just go into notification center and tweak notifications to be just what you want? Mail? Use VIP and set up alerts. Anything non-VIP, don't get alerted. I do all this and it makes the phone experience so much better.
It's a nice feature. It's not "revolutionary". So Apple could pile on tons and tons of nice features, and people would still complain that they weren't re-inventing the wheel and hate it anyway...
So it doesn't matter. Apple decided against it, you'll still buy it anyway (or if not you, the person directly behind you in line), and they'll make more money because of it.
There are probably hundreds of nice features out there they could include. Why not just include them all? There's bound to be someone out there who still wants something they haven't included (like an FM radio, remember that "feature" that people were shocked kept getting left out?).
The "why" they are so stubborn is OBVIOUS: you still buy it anyway, and it makes them more $$$ not having to include a feature that less than 1% of people want/care about. And even if more people did, they aren't losing people over not having it (and if they are, it's a handful) so rather than devoting millions of dollars and countless hours of R&D to include it, they just leave it out.
It makes you sad. It makes stockholders happy.
Who do you think Apple cares about?
So it doesn't matter. Apple decided against it, you'll still buy it anyway (or if not you, the person directly behind you in line), and they'll make more money because of it.
There are probably hundreds of nice features out there they could include. Why not just include them all? There's bound to be someone out there who still wants something they haven't included (like an FM radio, remember that "feature" that people were shocked kept getting left out?).
The "why" they are so stubborn is OBVIOUS: you still buy it anyway, and it makes them more $$$ not having to include a feature that less than 1% of people want/care about. And even if more people did, they aren't losing people over not having it (and if they are, it's a handful) so rather than devoting millions of dollars and countless hours of R&D to include it, they just leave it out.
It makes you sad. It makes stockholders happy.
Who do you think Apple cares about?
Do you see how silly you sound? Isn't that the point? Constantly checking your phone to see if your u missed something when you could just glance over and see a subtle glow that let's you know you missed something. Why would I WANT to have to always turn my screen on to see if I missed something. That's like making an argument for pull vs push mail notifications. If you don't see the usefulness in that then we don't have anything further to discuss.
And why is the default answer always "get an android phone?" God forbid I'd actually want apple to bring a useful feature to their devices...
Don't quote me anymore
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