Because Verizon has been deemed the best overall service provider by many reports and AT&T has been branded the worst overall service provider by those same reports.
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Why is everyone in a rush to switch to Verizon?
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I am not switching to Verizon.
They don't have the demanding Apple business users, who want simultaneous data + voice.
They don't have the demanding Apple business users, who want simultaneous data + voice.
And the vast majority of people neither read nor care about those "reports." AT&T is MUCH nicer to me and provides better coverage, reception, and service than Verizon EVER did.
Bottom line: Use what works for you (general, not specific), and stop caring so much about what other people do
I, for one, am happy that all these people are eager to switch over. That means less people clogging up the network. 
The point is that the reports are based on public opinion. That's great that you have a wonderful experience with AT&T. I'd say even a majority of AT&T's customers are happy.
Bottom line: out of all the wireless carriers, AT&T has a larger number of unhappy customers than the rest of the carriers. This is the point they were making. Nobody is telling someone with great experiences on AT&T that they need to move so stop getting all defensive and pissy when someone points out what is generally accepted by the rest of the US to be true.
So weird how some people get so defensive over their service providers. As if they defend you also.
Just remember, you are nothing more to their Corporate Suits than a free business lunch and a shoe shine.
Just remember, you are nothing more to their Corporate Suits than a free business lunch and a shoe shine.
If you're like me, you're not only sick of the lousy OS on your BlackBerry but need a phone that works efficiently and is quite productive. People like myself need things to work and work fast - waiting time or rotating clocks are not acceptable. iPhone is a very efficient phone and does what I need it to do. Having used an iPad and every generation of iPod Touch - I'm comfortable with the iOS and quite happy with it as well. Only complaint I have is the lack of a file system.
I live in Canada, so it's not like I CAN switch to Verizon, but even if I were able to I simply wouldn't because of the lack of being able to switch between cell phones at will. Now I understand that this may not be a concern to most people but back when I was on a CDMA network, the lack of freedom to switch phones was really a big peeve with me and was really pleased when they introduced GSM to their network.
I actually did not understand the issues with AT&T also before I switched to working in NYC... Unfortunately, now I fully understand the brouhaha over the AT&T speeds. The phone is absolutely unusable during the day. I know some companies have been putting up a WiFi infrastructure for their employees in the city... I remember when the AT&T PR guy said "not sure iPhone users are ready for life in the slow lane", I couldn't help but grin... All the Verizon phones blew all the AT&T phones using the speedtest app.
I get that people want to switch to verizon for coverage reasons and that they love the iPhone. The funny thing is that you'll be stuck with a phone that uses service on a network(3G) that verizon is not focused on investing money into. A year from now when LTE is up and running in most areas verizon ip4 will be slow compared to everything else out there and you'll still have a year left in your 2yr contract.
you mean people with their LTE speeds will be able to download angry birds .4 seconds faster than my "slow" iPhone 4?! come on man, let people rock an iphone if they want, esp if the 3g coverage in their area is good
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Some people on this forum have waited years for this day to come (myself included)
Let us have our moment, sheesh
I totally get a lot of the complaints. Where I live now, I have a sporadic AT&T signal and don't have a landline that I use. What stinks is it's just this one little spot and a couple of dead zones within a mile of my house. I drive about two miles south and I'm rockin' at least three bars of 3G. Heck, I'd probably have that at the entrance to my subdivision. But apparently I'm in the Grand Canyon.
But so far, I'm not seeing Verizon as being much better. I haven't had a chance to find a friend with Verizon to come over to see if the service is any different, and I really like the chat and surf at the same time. Verizon's limited data plans are also not as good of a deal -- it's $15 for 150MB if you got it, right? My mom is on that flavor of the AT&T plan but gets 200MB. I'm pretty darn close to using that little, so I may switch at some point. Verizon also charges more for less data on its MyFi plans if I recall right.
Then you have the problem of I'd have to buy THREE new phones. I've got my mom and dad on my plan, my dad on a craptastic Sony Ericsson, my mom on a 3GS. I have no clue whether Verizon tries to screw you with texting charges as bad as AT&T does -- if you can totally turn text and data off on a phone, LET ME KNOW HOW -- and I just haven't used it before.
I'll be curious to see if my prediction about a Verizon iPhone 5 model is right. It's hard to believe that Apple would only create an updated model for GSM customers. As many people as I think would buy the next version when it comes out for the same reasons I mentioned in the OP, I think Apple would be dumb to not either create a CDMA version or put in a chip that does CDMA and GSM.
But so far, I'm not seeing Verizon as being much better. I haven't had a chance to find a friend with Verizon to come over to see if the service is any different, and I really like the chat and surf at the same time. Verizon's limited data plans are also not as good of a deal -- it's $15 for 150MB if you got it, right? My mom is on that flavor of the AT&T plan but gets 200MB. I'm pretty darn close to using that little, so I may switch at some point. Verizon also charges more for less data on its MyFi plans if I recall right.
Then you have the problem of I'd have to buy THREE new phones. I've got my mom and dad on my plan, my dad on a craptastic Sony Ericsson, my mom on a 3GS. I have no clue whether Verizon tries to screw you with texting charges as bad as AT&T does -- if you can totally turn text and data off on a phone, LET ME KNOW HOW -- and I just haven't used it before.
I'll be curious to see if my prediction about a Verizon iPhone 5 model is right. It's hard to believe that Apple would only create an updated model for GSM customers. As many people as I think would buy the next version when it comes out for the same reasons I mentioned in the OP, I think Apple would be dumb to not either create a CDMA version or put in a chip that does CDMA and GSM.
Not according to this poll so far.
According to AT&T they are pretty close to the same path as Verizon.
Couple of weeks ago a AT&T tech asked me where a specific building was on campus because there is a tower there. He said AT&T is implementing 4g in Philly metro and across country. He needed to get to the tower to set up the 4g network.
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Same situation here. If AT&T switched on their 3G service here, I might be inclined to stay. However, I've been waiting 3 years now for that.
According to AT&T complete expansion is by March 31st. If that is true then AT&T will have a good amount of 3G coverage.
This is a wonderful posts that really puts things into perspective. While some exagerate the speed differences to seem like I'll be "getting the joke" 5 minutes later....this is not the case and in reality it's only seconds or less difference.
Any poll on this site is invalid due to the nature of the users. We don't get a good cross section of AT&T's customer base on this site. We are all a particular kind of user.
No, they are behind Verizon by about at least a year even by their own estimates. Verizon has over 40 markets up...AT&T 0.
And by 4G he meant HSPA+, not LTE.
If you check the actual pools here there are just a few people that are going to switch. Most of all the hype you are seeing is from some very vocal forumites.
So not everyone is going to switch to Verizon as the thread title asks.
Of course not everyone is leaving. The OP is overly dramatic. The estimate is around 16%. This obviously doesn't mean that everyone will be leaving in droves and of that 16% a lot of them are all talk but no action. But it's by no means "just a few people".
AT&T won't be going out of business or even really hurting badly. But it is still estimated that they will loose about $6 billion in revenue and thats never a good thing.
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Most everybody will stay with AT&T. They simply don't want to wait all day for a web page to load. People want a fast web experience, they don't want to go back in time and deal with extremely poor data speeds.
Most everybody will stay with AT&T. They simply don't want to wait all day for a web page to load. People want a fast web experience, they don't want to go back in time and deal with extremely poor data speeds.
And yet another blatant over-exageration of the difference in speed. In many places Verizon is actually faster than AT&T....esp areas w/ no 3G provided by AT&T.
I was able to use both an iPhone 4 on AT&T and a Droid X on Verizon for a couple of weeks last summer. When comparing speed tests on both devices in my area (with good signal on both), AT&T was averaging about 1-2mbps down while the Droid X averaged about 512kbps - 1mbps. AT&T would occassionally peak at 3mbps, and the Droid sometimes got 2mbps. Clearly an AT&T advantage, right?
And yet, webpages and Internet enabled apps actually seemed a bit snappier on the Droid X! Why was that, I wondered? Was it because the Droid is just faster? Nah, they have comparable specs. One word: LATENCY. On those same speed tests, the Droid X had latency between 100-200ms consistently, whereas the iPhone 4 on AT&T was very sporadic - always at least 300-400ms and many times in the 2000-4000ms range. There is more inherent latency on GSM than CDMA, and LTE will remedy that with even lower latency.
Throughput is not the only measure of speed. For example, online gaming is much more sensitive to latency than throughput. A 1mbps connection can perform much better than a 20mbps connection if the latency on the former is consistently lower. And when I think about the majority of tasks I perform on my phone, it's clear to me that latency plays a bigger part than throughput.
So for tasks like web browsing, audio streaming, checking the weather, gaming, and the like, the lower-latency CDMA network can actually match GSM or even have an advantage. It's only when you start streaming high-bandwidth applications like video that the higher throughput becomes important.
So which is better? Again, it all depends on how you look at things, what functions you perform the most, and what kind of consistency you see in your connection.
Not really.... No. 1.5mbps from VZW's 3g and 3.5mbps from Att's 3g maybe a couple seconds but not from HSPA+ or LTE.
They said be a while ago. They have been aggressive with their LTE deployment and will launch HSPA+ devices next month soon after VZ iPhone. They will will rollout the same time as VZW in 2013.
no he meant LTE which will be launching May/June now. All site have been upgraded and HSPA+ ready. They are over 80% on the backhaul and will be completed before LTE is launched.
This is true, Att wont be out of business and any loss in profit is never a good thing. At least Att has made more revenue and profit than VZW for at least the past couple quarters and they will begin to push Android OS with at least 12 new 4G devices this year.
THe only thing I was saying is that it would suck to have a 3G iPhone for 2yrs when 4G is right around the corner with tons of new devices. Like I said though, I get it and if Att have bad service around me I would probably be on VZW boat too waiting in line. Maybe...
Geckotek said:
No it's valid cause according to the polls not many AT&T customers will switch.
Geckotek said:
According to the AT&T tech at the college I work at they are going to implement 4G in the future.
I've never seen 3.5 Mbps from my iPhone.
AT&T's idea of a "complete rollout" and Verizon's are not one and the same. (As can be seen by the current 3G map comparison)
No, it's not. The selection of people on the forum is not truly representative of the US population. Also, FAR fewer people have answered the poll compared to the thousands that have participated in polls taken by real pollsters. The polls on this forum are for fun and are entertaining...but little else.
Yes, nobody has questioned that.
What I mean future I mean near future like the summer according to the AT&T tech that's why he was there. However you said with AT&T it was 0.