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I would disagree a bit, need to change an app's settings? You need to change app to the settings app. Android long press the icon and boom pop menu takes you straight there.

boy oh boy what a hidden feature that is. I had to get an android phone and check it out. I didn't see it at first but then i figured id have to tap the I button (how is I an icon for settings?)

Also you can clear cache for an app without deleting and reinstalling. And swipe away notifications that pop up without having to return to the notification centre.

And android has a universal back gesture. Not the randomness of different apps using different methods.

Ios does do some things better to be fair.

it might have some nice features but you have to judge as a whole and pick one. Android settings app is a jungle that id rather not walk. The fact that you can have 2 app stores installing apps concurrently makes me confused.
 
I think the ballooning size of modern apps can be blamed on the devs decision to use electron to wrap web apps and call it a day instead of actually bothering to write a native app.

honestly, i hate it but... if i was a developer I wouldn't want to write 5 different apps for 5 different platforms. 1 Electron and it works everywhere. This has been great for the linux desktop users as they finally get an app for their platform too.

In the end its whats most convenient wins, not the best.
 
Gotta mix in the humanities. Jobs understood this. Most people do not. The humanities are often derided. Oh, you're an art major? An English major? Good luck getting a job! Get a real degree, in something that makes money! Yeah but it's those things that ultimately make Apple's best software what it is.

 
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Works for me. NothingOS is a wonderfully minimal Android skin that unlike a launcher change on other devices runs right through the entire operating system. Its still my favourite phone UX of any modern device.
 
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By your reckoning only Apple foldables will be around by this time next year...

No I’m sharing what is being reported about nothing and one of the cofounders freaking out on social media about the leak.

By counterpoint researches reckoning the foldable market will grow by 21% after the iPhone foldable is released. And apple will rake 2nd place with a marketshare if 25%. Sound like counterpoint research is being conservative with their figures.

Which is great news for the foldable market since the global smartphone market is contracting, excluding Huawei and apple to whom are increasing market share rapidly in this current downturn caused by increasing memory and storage prices.

What happens to Samsungs foldable marketshare is up to Samsung moving forward.
 
But nothing OS and nothing might not be here this time next year.
This is a complex issue. Unreported by the tech press is Nothing failing to register their accounts with the appropriate services in the UK where they're based although that was a month ago. At the same time they've built a brand on value phones with slim margins that now faces an uphill struggle due to memory costs. I imagine many of the layoffs are going to come from the CMF team who can't even afford to release a product at previous prices.

I imagine going forwards they'll be sticking to their good/better/best £300-£500 pricing categories. The 4a Pro is probably the best value phone on the market right now with very few weaknesses that even if it were £700 would be good enough.

What they and everyone else is fighting is how long Google can keep the Pixel 10a at £499. If they eat the costs on that hoping to recoup on AI subscriptions that will become king of the hill. The entire Android market however is constrained by Google. The AOSP project has to be looking at stripping things back to make it functional on less RAM to get around the price rises. Companies like Nothing and even Samsung don't have the agility Apple enjoy when it comes to development of the base operating system.
 
Isn’t it weird that there is exactly one company who puts a lot of work into the design of their OS and all other manufacturers (Google, Microsoft, Linux developers) can only produce extremely ugly UI elements? Is it really that hard to make a great looking, minimalist but modern UI? Android looks like a children’s toy (and like a cheap one, from the dollar store). Microsoft looks like someone stitched together garbage and painted it over with a shiny color… Linux… well Linux KDE and Gnome both look unrefined to me. KDE looks like a worse version of Windows while Gnome looks brutish and unsophisticated. Are “good looks” just not important to the average person?

Agreed, except Apple seem to insist on child-like AI illustrations for the App Store and the truly dreadful illustrations in the music 'Classical' app.
 
No I’m sharing what is being reported about nothing and one of the cofounders freaking out on social media about the leak.

By counterpoint researches reckoning the foldable market will grow by 21% after the iPhone foldable is released. And apple will rake 2nd place with a marketshare if 25%. Sound like counterpoint research is being conservative with their figures.

Which is great news for the foldable market since the global smartphone market is contracting, excluding Huawei and apple to whom are increasing market share rapidly in this current downturn caused by increasing memory and storage prices.

What happens to Samsungs foldable marketshare is up to Samsung moving forward.
I'm just collating your opinion everything non apple that you have posted in this thread, and elsewhere
 
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Gotta mix in the humanities. Jobs understood this. Most people do not. The humanities are often derided. Oh, you're an art major? An English major? Good luck getting a job! Get a real degree, in something that makes money! Yeah but it's those things that ultimately make Apple's best software what it is.


most companies executives are bean counters aiming to increase profit margin. Jobs hit a sweet spot between electronics and design. Its sad we do not see someone else mimicking that on manufacturing level but there are very well designed apps.1password is such an app.

in other words, you are ignorant

Okay so then you cannot legitimately speak on user experience of Android. Funny how you folks always find yourself in this section though.

Why do i have to own it for 1 year to make a decision. you must love google spying on you.
 
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most companies executives are bean counters aiming to increase profit margin. Jobs hit a sweet spot between electronics and design. Its sad we do not see someone else mimicking that on manufacturing level but there are very well designed apps.1password is such an app.





Why do i have to own it for 1 year to make a decision. you must love google spying on you.

A good chunk pay for the privilege.
 
Because its like saying....... I hate iPhones and IOS...because I had iPhone 4 back in the day and it was horrible....kept losing signal.....
In general, I don't like holding a strong opinion without some practical first-hand experience. That's not always practical, but it's a general principle that I like to stay close to, so I do get what you’re saying. However, how much experience do I have to have had with Android to be able to say I don't like it? Am I allowed to not like Android if I've never owned one, even though I have used several? How long would I have to own one to be allowed a negative opinion?
 
I was an iPhone-only user for like eight years or so before I bought an Adroid phone.

Until I got my first Droid this year, my only Android experience was briefly poking at Android display models at stores.

Having owned an Android for a few months now I think iOS is easier, more use-friendly. However, if a user gets used to Android ... it does all the same stuff. Just not quite as user-friendly.

Android is more user-friendly than Windows 95, and millions of regular people got along just fine with Windows 95. It's like that.

I think once a person gets accustomed to Android there's not going to be a problem. In fact, to an Android-only user, I bet iOS would come across as tricky to use.

I sometimes find myself inadvertantly using Android gestures on my old iPhone, and using iPhone gestures on my Android. It's just what one is used to.
 
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In general, I don't like holding a strong opinion without some practical first-hand experience. That's not always practical, but it's a general principle that I like to stay close to, so I do get what you’re saying. However, how much experience do I have to have had with Android to be able to say I don't like it? Am I allowed to not like Android if I've never owned one, even though I have used several? How long would I have to own one to be allowed a negative opinion?
It depends. Did you go in with an open mind or did you go in comparing everything on Android to what you have been used to on iPhone for ages? Because the vast majority of people would say they like iOS simply because it's familiar, not better.
 
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