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Why is nobody talking about how ProMotion just does not work as intended?

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It doesn't work in Safari, and most 3rd party apps. This was a selling feature of the machine, and is featured prominently on the front page of Apple's site.


Here come the Apple apologists thinking its acceptable to ship something with half the feature working.
 
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bluegt said:
I don't understand your point. ProMotion works fine... it's a display hardware feature and the MacOS supports it without issue.

It's up to app developers if and when ProMotion will be supported.
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You should tell that to the Chromium developers that can't figure out how to make it work properly because it's completely undocumented and probably bugged (https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1261194#c16). Not to mention that it's currently not working on even Safari.

Honestly, it not working isn't really a surprise to me. I've used macOS with external 120hz displays for years and they've never functioned as they should 100% of the time. I'm hoping the new Macbooks and this issue encourage Apple to take a much needed second look at high refresh rates in the OS.
 
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bluegt said:
I don't understand your point. ProMotion works fine... it's a display hardware feature and the MacOS supports it without issue.

It's up to app developers if and when ProMotion will be supported.
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Apple's own Safari does not look like it's working with ProMotion right now...it's just a little jerky compared to the iPad Pro's.
 
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bluegt said:
I don't understand your point. ProMotion works fine... it's a display hardware feature and the MacOS supports it without issue.

It's up to app developers if and when ProMotion will be supported.
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It absolutely does not work fine. I only see 120hz on Podcasts or News. Apples built in browser can’t even do it. Insanity for a $2k machine.
 
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adcx64 said:
It doesn't work in Safari, and most 3rd party apps. This was a selling feature of the machine, and is featured prominently on the front page of Apple's site.


Here come the Apple apologists thinking its acceptable to ship something with half the feature working.
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Jusr be patient, like the original retina screen, appl compatibility takes some time.
 
I couldn’t care less how many hertz exactly the screen is running at at any given second, i’d rather just focus on actually using the machine and getting work done.

All I care about is that the screen feels greatly smoother and nicer to use in general, therefore i’m satisfied, and I couldn’t care less if Safari isn’t running at 120 yet. Every mac before this has been 60hz, including safari, so i’m more than used to it and it was never an issue in the first place.

Either be patient for the fixes to come or simply return it, instead of making these dumb threads like any of us are able to fix your safari scrolling. On a hardware level the screen does reach the advertised refresh rates anywhere where an app is optimised so there’s no issue with Apple advertising it on their main page.
 
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adcx64 said:
It doesn't work in Safari, and most 3rd party apps. This was a selling feature of the machine, and is featured prominently on the front page of Apple's site.

Here come the Apple apologists thinking its acceptable to ship something with half the feature working.
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Everything software wise on these machines is a disaster. I am in love with the hardware and optimistic about the potential, but Monterey crashes more than any version of MacOS I can remember by an order of magnitude, half of its features aren’t even in version 12.0, etc. It’s a joke. I’m chalking it up as pandemic/work from home related, and hoping for timely fixes. Everyone I know in person with a new MBP has been basically unable to use them for serious work yet due to OS instability.
 
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I haven't received my M1 Max yet. What happens in unsupported applications? Does it produce artifacts or blurs? Or does it just default to the normal screen resolution?
 
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Everything software wise on these machines is a disaster. I am in love with the hardware and optimistic about the potential, but Monterey crashes more than any version of MacOS I can remember by an order of magnitude, half of its features aren’t even in version 12.0, etc. It’s a joke. I’m chalking it up as pandemic/work from home related, and hoping for timely fixes. Everyone I know in person with a new MBP has been basically unable to use them for serious work yet due to OS instability.
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I haven't had a single crash and I do serious work all day long.
 
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fa8362 said:
I haven't had a single crash and I do serious work all day long.
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Lucky! I’m jealous. My brother spent 12 hours trying to get Xcode installed yesterday. I’ve had to force quit an app (most often finder) nearly hourly due to unresponsiveness. Everytime I disconnect from my TB dock I get a kernel panic. Connecting to remote disks on other Macs on the network frequently drops to zero bandwidth. My control center has a memory leak and needs to be terminated regularly. Many apps perform slower on this than my M1 air for some reason (100% utilization on M1, 20% on M1 max). My mother’s MacBook Pro arrived Tuesday but is still in the box since trying to set up such an unstable machine would not be a good idea for her. I truly am happy it’s worked for you, but mine and my brother’s experience has been quite frustrating. I’m about at the point of clean installing and crossing my fingers that helps, something I’ve never had to do on a Mac before.
 
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Stevenyo said:
Everything software wise on these machines is a disaster. I am in love with the hardware and optimistic about the potential, but Monterey crashes more than any version of MacOS I can remember by an order of magnitude, half of its features aren’t even in version 12.0, etc. It’s a joke. I’m chalking it up as pandemic/work from home related, and hoping for timely fixes. Everyone I know in person with a new MBP has been basically unable to use them for serious work yet due to OS instability.
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I haven’t had a single problem and I find it quite stable.
 
smirking said:
I haven't received my M1 Max yet. What happens in unsupported applications? Does it produce artifacts or blurs? Or does it just default to the normal screen resolution?
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Exactly - nothing wrong will happen - if you are/were satisfy with 60hz before they will be no change to your usage
 
Just started using my 14" and noticed that straight away. Scrolling in Safari when it first steps up is very jerky with ProMotion enabled. I've just disabled it for now, it's not like 60hz scrolling isn't smooth anyway.
 
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Lucky! I’m jealous. My brother spent 12 hours trying to get Xcode installed yesterday. I’ve had to force quit an app (most often finder) nearly hourly due to unresponsiveness. Everytime I disconnect from my TB dock I get a kernel panic. Connecting to remote disks on other Macs on the network frequently drops to zero bandwidth. My control center has a memory leak and needs to be terminated regularly. Many apps perform slower on this than my M1 air for some reason (100% utilization on M1, 20% on M1 max). My mother’s MacBook Pro arrived Tuesday but is still in the box since trying to set up such an unstable machine would not be a good idea for her. I truly am happy it’s worked for you, but mine and my brother’s experience has been quite frustrating. I’m about at the point of clean installing and crossing my fingers that helps, something I’ve never had to do on a Mac before.
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I always do a clean install. It can be a chore, but perhaps that's why I never have any problems.
 
Hardware always comes first. Then software is developed to use it. The neural engine is another example.

This is how technology has always worked. When the light bulb was invented, everyone did not instantly have lights in their homes.
 
I have the base 14" model and been using it for a day now and I can confirm, the promotion isn't working when using Safari/Chrome/Opera browser. It looks and feels the same as 60hz.

Hopefully the next update will fix this.
 
Stevenyo said:
Everything software wise on these machines is a disaster. I am in love with the hardware and optimistic about the potential, but Monterey crashes more than any version of MacOS I can remember by an order of magnitude, half of its features aren’t even in version 12.0, etc. It’s a joke. I’m chalking it up as pandemic/work from home related, and hoping for timely fixes. Everyone I know in person with a new MBP has been basically unable to use them for serious work yet due to OS instability.
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Buy a PC. Get out of this nightmare for you. Oh wait. How about an old 2013. They work pretty well.
 
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