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Why is the 13" MBP Apple'a best selling notebook? Price or Size??

yegon said:
Never a truer word spoken :)

I started frequenting here, ooh, about 2007 shortly after buying my first Mac, a white Macbook. It's only after about 12 months you realise that *everything* really is a cyle of whingers, evangelists, wish lists, qc complaints, predictions etc. The funniest thing I find is when people act all clever when they've correctly predicted the latest development - yeah you and about 1m other people lol!

But hey, 3 Macs later and I'm still posting and reading!
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Better troubleshooting than the manual. That's why. ;)
 
crazyrog17 said:
Back when it was a choice between 13" aluminum unibody macbook and 15" unibody macbook pro, I chose the pro mainly for the 'pro'.
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And I chose mine for the 13". I would have liked a pro, but favored the smaller size more. Had I waited seven months I could have had both, but I'm happy with what I have ... at least until the Arrandale MBPs arrive. ;)
 
because of the price ... for sure

if you have the choose between :

13" mbp
2,26Ghz
4 go ram
250 go HD
9400m
=1464$
+Samsung F2380 @ 280$
Total : 1744$

And

15" mbp
2,53Ghz
4 go ram
250 go HD
9400m
=1799$

what do you will choose ??

I personally bought the 13" mbp and F2380 monitor + mouse and keyboard and I'm very satisfy of this setup. With this, you don't have to choose between Portability and Price, you have both.
And yes, I think that 13" is a little bit small to be really productive, even if most of 15,4" Windows laptops have the same screen resolution (1280x800) ...

note: CND$
 
160 horizontial and 100 vertical pixels really aren't that much for productivity... I admit the 17 to be an amazing machine, although too expensive for me but for the price delta between the 13 and the 15 I got a nice 24" 1920x1200 monitor
 
The cost and it's very fast for a 13 inch laptop.

I own its predecessor and its pretty mobile and light. :D
 
I would say both price and size (including weight).

- You get the same sized keyboard on all MBP models. So there is no compromise there.

- It's very convenient to carry.

- Cost is reasonable as well.

- With the addition of an external monitor, the display limitation is removed when using as a desktop.

The MBP13 is a wonderful solution for many who need a laptop. No wonder it is Apple's best selling laptop.

On a side note, I wonder if Apple will offer with a Matte (anti-glare) screen in the future?
 
Greenman85 said:
did it pass the 15? i remember reading that they sold the most of the 15 models.
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Apparently.

Please go to the Apple web site and see for yourself what Apple is saying.

Here's Apple's home page as of November 28th, 2009 at 1530 JST.

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Look to the bottom towards the center. :)
 
I have always loved the form factor of the 13.3" Macbooks (since I first dumped my 12" iBook for one when they were first released).

I recently ditched my 13.3" alu. Macbook (CE!) for a MBP exclusively for the ability to upgrade to 8GB of ram (which I have recently done). I do a ton of virtualization and am always ram-constrained.
 
A case where I think everybody is right. Both Price (value for money) and Size are a big thing. You get most of what you look for, in a Macbook Pro spec, for nearly half the money you used to have to pay for one.

Also, the size and weight is perfect. It's incredibly portable, and fits in so many places that 15 and 17 laptops have more trouble fitting in. Works great in your lap in even the most cramped quarters (I even remember doing a recording session, using Logic Pro, in what almost amounts to a sardine can, with 4 other people). The most comfortable size when on a plane, or in a cabin of a cruise ship. Even those little bar tables on cruise ships fit a 13-incher right within the boundaries. It also packs away in the smallest of areas. Even though I have to admit, they did a great job with the Unibody 15-inch size and weight; if they kept the 9600 in the low-end version of the 15-inch, it would've been more attractive.

The good thing is that the 9400M is proving to be quite an adequate card to use with games and good editing software making even the 2.26GHZ processor feel just as adequate, if not more than the 2.4GHZ did, in the older models. It performs like dedicated cards did a couple of years back, at least. That's the performance that makes it worthwhile to be used in a more Professional setup. I'm a Logic Pro, Aperture 2, Photoshop, and a Final Cut user, and I appreciate the performance bump. It may be using shared memory, but this card really feels like it takes plenty of weight off the CPU, unlike the Intel model before it. (And yes, my other Macbook is the white model 2008 2.4Ghz with the X3100 intel card. Upgraded to 4GB memory and using a 500GB hard-drive)

Back to the size issue. Those who really favor small verses large also have a firm belief that going to bigger screens means less portability, and factor in that these books were made to connect to other monitors. When I take my 13 inch books for some of the stronger editing tasks, I tend to hook them up to bigger-widescreen monitors, to work. Temporarily making a less-portable but large display setup. But then again, in those setups, Dual monitor displays are always recommended.
 
pesc said:
For most people it is. For me, I wouldn't want the 15" even if it cost the same as the 13". For me, the point of a laptop is its portability. I have large external screens on all my desks.
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I totally agree. I have my iMac at home for times when i need the large screen. Other than that,, my MBP is for on the road use at school or where ever I may be. I love the portability of the new MBP 13". I had the MB 13" 2008 Unibody but it was stolen, so I bought a new 2009 and love it. Thankfully my homeowners insurance covered the theft.
 
I <3 my 15" MBP, it may have cost a fair bit more but I find it no less portable than my old 13" white macbook and the extra screen real estate is bliss. It's nice to have some graphical grunt with the 9600GT too.

The battery is also amazing, it really will last over 7 hours with modest use :eek:
 
True. These Macbooks are the only laptops in which I run them, mostly during the day, on sheer battery power. Basically using no house current power to run my machines with. I do have a tendancy to plug it in more during Logic Pro sessions, since I'm powering a number of audio devices with my Macbook, at the time.
 
Strange how people argue their case on grounds of portability when the 15" bad boy is just as portable as the 'entry level' 13 incher.
 
shambo said:
Strange how people argue their case on grounds of portability when the 15" bad boy is just as portable as the 'entry level' 13 incher.
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Is the 'entry level' 13" any smaller than the top of the range 13"? Just curious about your need to deem the 13" an 'entry level'.

Now for me, I find it strange why you feel this need to defend why you spent your hard earned pennies on a machine that you call 'future proof' when you are the only gal in history to actually have a future-proof computer. I also find it remarkably strange how you deem something that weighs and measures more as being equally portable as something that weighs and measures less. This is simple logic. Something smaller tends to travel better be it a computer, a future proof machine from the super future, or even a person. Just think about it logically for once.


Why is the 13" the best selling one? I think because most people want portable on the road and tend to come home and plug into an external display when they need more real estate. Even 15" displays on super future proof machines is not quite enough working space if you really want to do anything of substance.
 
True. The 15inch unibody, I even stated, was a really great size, and very well done. So I can easily say that without the price difference, the 13" wouldn't win as easily. The 15 inch is still over 1 1/2 inches wider and a whole pound heavier. I would imagine, if they were close enough to the same price, more would pick the low-end 15".
 
shambo said:
Strange how people argue their case on grounds of portability when the 15" bad boy is just as portable as the 'entry level' 13 incher.
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NO. The reason I chose the 13" MBP over the 15" ....ahem "Macbook" Pro was exactly because of this reason.

The 15" is simply too big and heavy for my liking.

Of course, other people have different ideas, and I accept that. I am not that kind apple extremist who thinks everyone MUST get a 15" and I don't go around dissing the 13" every other thread.

I've made my point. enough said.
 
I have an old pre-unibody 15" MBP... but if I was buying a new machine today, I'd get the 13" MBP.

why? because it has all the features of the 15" I need in a 13" form factor. I do some gaming on the side (Half Life 2, COD: MW, etc.) but nothing that the 9400M can't handle. heck, my ATI X1600 still suffices in my current machine. back in '06 when I was buying, there was a large difference between the 13" plastic macbook and the 15" MBP... but now there's something to bridge the gap


I can also note that on my college's campus, the most common machine (Windows OR Mac) is the 13" MBP
 
smartalic34 said:
I have an old pre-unibody 15" MBP... but if I was buying a new machine today, I'd get the 13" MBP.

why? because it has all the features of the 15" I need in a 13" form factor. I do some gaming on the side (Half Life 2, COD: MW, etc.) but nothing that the 9400M can't handle. heck, my ATI X1600 still suffices in my current machine. back in '06 when I was buying, there was a large difference between the 13" plastic macbook and the 15" MBP... but now there's something to bridge the gap
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Ya man, I agree. I think the 9400M in the 13.3''MBP can handle the games I prefer to play and some newer ones, turn down quality if needed. I was always sketchy about this part of buying a Mac, but im not a hard core gamer or video/photo editing. That is why the 13.3'' MBP is perfect for me! If I were hard core gamer, I'd stay with my PC or playstation 3 lol
 
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