I don't need every feature under the sun. All I know is that the iPhone 4 is the first phone that I've had for almost a year that I still just as much, if not more, than when I first got it!
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Why is the iPhone 4 still selling well?
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Repeat 1,000,000 times:
"Only geeks care about specs"
Maybe then you'll start to understand.
ZOMG!!! I'm off to but the GSII NOW!!!!
Good luck with any kind of support from Samsung if any thing goes wrong.
The atrix is close to retina and it still sucks. I would rather have less pixels and be able to expand the memory, change my own battery. Than have a tiny 3.5 inch screen with tiny icons and tiny folders. The pop up notifications is also really annoying. Don't get me wrong I love apple and it is my favorite brand, but IOS is old, dated, and boring.
Wish my iPhone had a removable battery. Sometimes I wake up in the night in a hot sweat just thinking about it.
Alert alert... Android fanboy in the house.
Time to break down your post...
You can HARDLY notice a difference. I've used both, and I still find the Retina display better,
The phone is a lot bigger. Personally, I prefer smaller devices.
Your videos load 2.123 seconds faster. I can live with that.
Android devices get updates? First I've heard...
32GB is more than enough space for the majority of iPhone users. I guess some would find additional storage to be useful, but like I said earlier, the majority of iPhone users are happy with the storage they have.
You guys need it, since one battery won't make it through a day.
The iPhone 4's camera is still better. Test's have been done. Watch some of the videos on YouTube.
I hardly ever record anything so I'm not going to comment here.
This can be done on the iPhone also. Don't see how this is anything special.
Use the Bump app from the app store. Does basically the exact same thing.
I'll be honest, I have no idea what this is... So no comment here.
How's your two hour battery life? Flash is horrible. I had it on my old Android phone and it just drained the battery. I was down to 40% left at 11am. (Day started at 8am)
You can do this on the iPhone 4... nothing special.
Really? 3 points? This is how I can tell you need to get a life and stop trying to boost your device.
Subjective.
The only thing in that entire line that's not also true of the iPhone is "lighter"
Not faster. Video format support is a bonus.
Yup, this is something iOS people have been asking for for a while (I'd say it's #2 (or #1a), along with a better notification system)
Meh
And the associated decrease in battery capacity.
I'd say for 99% of users, the longer-lasting battery wins over the user-serviceable battery
iPhone 4 camera is absolutely fine. It's a great camera, actually.
The MP spec on a camera means about as much as the GHz spec on a computer
Again, good quality recordings are produced by the iPhone
I prefer AirPlay, but I can see how if you don't have an AppleTV setup, HDMI would appeal. I have no desire to run a cable to my phone.
Again, meh
AirPlay more than takes care of this for me.
All of these things are supported by my iPhone. It achieves it in a different way, but I have all my contacts, pictures, movies, music, etc. on my computers/devices. (Not SMS though)
Flash is dying as a de facto web standard. Can't wait until it's relegated to the same closet as Java Applets.
This is another cool one. Would like to see it implemented.
Apple has this for free as well. That part of MobileMe is free now, has been for a while.
- Apps
- More polished UI
- Better UX
- tighter integration with Apple ecosystem (if you're "in" that ecosystem. If not, of course this is a moot point)
- Accesory market is ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE beyond anything for Android.
- iTunes. A lot of geeks hate it, but to the general public, it's a godsend. It works, and works well.
Amen to that. Specs matter to maybe 10% of buyers these days. The want a screen that looks nice, a phone that looks nice (not all that cheap ass plastic) and something that just works.
I find it funny seeing that Android fans always scream about specs and hardware capabilty.....yet, iOS on an iPhone 4 performs almost as fast as android on the super hardware........and I have yet to see any Android game that is close in looks to Infinity Blade or Real Racing 2. So the hardware is great, however, android is not taking the full potential of it.
^ +1
You're being generous with 10%. I think it's closer 5%. When I see these posts here, and other boards, I look at this way. There are say 50 posts saying how wonderfully spec'd the new <<< INSERT HTC/MOTO/ET-AL HERE>>> handset is, and how it blows the iPhone away. Of those 50, probably 10 of them are the same people replying/reposting. So we if take 5 boards X 10 people, we're back to 50. Then take the number of handsets...what is it now, like 30 Million in 2010? That works out to like .00016% of the users that actually care..LOL...
I know, I know...my numbers aren't accurate. Just trying to make a point. But really...if you polled those 30 Million people who own one, I'm guessing that MAYBE 3% - 5% care about Snapdragon vs. AMOLED vs. ROOT, etc.
I used both and while I do need a magnifying glass to see the differences between PPI on the Retina and Super Amoled plus, The differences contrast ratio, color gamut and the refresh rates have nothing in common and are very noticable between both the SAMOLED+ and Retina.
By the way the Retina Display is just an ISP SLCD, the only reason Apple had to go with it instead of SAMOLED is because Samsung couldn't produce enough for their iphones, otherwise they'd have switched the AMOLED technology which is by far better, it's like comparing a LCD Television to a LED one.
I prefer having a bigger screen for a more comfortable use.
It's not only about videos, everything on this phone is smoother, the Exynos SOC is even faster than the A5 which is to be implemented in the iphone5 (not like both aren't manufactured by Samsung anyway...)
About videos, can your iphone 4 seamlessly play 1080p videos without conversion through craptunes without any lags ? (Answer: No, it can't)
Yes they do, in fact the Galaxy SII had an update no later than today. Who's the fanboy now?
32GB might be enough for an iphone user, it's not when your phone can play and record 1080p videos and output them through HDMI (like the Galaxy SII can...) I bet you're fine with sticking with Apple and using an Apple II computer just because it's Apple branded though...
I've actually tested my battery life, I could get no less than over 17 hours of uptime on my phone in intensive use, and that was with the firmware my phone shipped with, which happened to had battery drain issue (which has been fixed in yesterday's update (yeah we had one yesterday too)) You can guess how much battery life I have now... (I am at 87% with over 3 hours of intensive use right now). It's not very surprising either, the Exynos draws much less power than the A5, so does the SAMOLED+ over the Retina Display, and the battery is 1650mah.... Facts speak for themselves.
Err.. no it's not, it can't do 1080p, it can't do 8mpix, and above all, it has a tendancy of going toward warm (unnatural) colours. The galaxy S2 Camera is about twice as good in terms of both pictures and video quality, that's what happens when you stick to an outdated phone.
From your previous comment I can very well see that.
Yes, using a non standard uber expensive proprietary product/cable such as Apple loves making you pay for.
Not only as stated above, my battery life is just fine, but we do have flash on our phones, unlike you, and because it's not an Apple phone, no one is trying to push for html5 and the proprietary h.264 codec for web videos, in fact we have the choice of whether to use flash or not in our browsers. Needless to say it doesn't drain the battery on the SGS2 and the contents play flawlessly.
I used both and while I do need a magnifying glass to see the differences between PPI on the Retina and Super Amoled plus, The differences contrast ratio, color gamut and the refresh rates have nothing in common and are very noticable between both the SAMOLED+ and Retina.
By the way the Retina Display is just an ISP SLCD, the only reason Apple had to go with it instead of SAMOLED is because Samsung couldn't produce enough for their iphones, otherwise they'd have switched the AMOLED technology which is by far better, it's like comparing a LCD Television to a LED one.
I prefer having a bigger screen for a more comfortable use.
It's not only about videos, everything on this phone is smoother, the Exynos SOC is even faster than the A5 which is to be implemented in the iphone5 (not like both aren't manufactured by Samsung anyway...)
About videos, can your iphone 4 seamlessly play 1080p videos without conversion through craptunes without any lags ? (Answer: No, it can't)
Yes they do, in fact the Galaxy SII had an update no later than today. Who's the fanboy now?
32GB might be enough for an iphone user, it's not when your phone can play and record 1080p videos and output them through HDMI (like the Galaxy SII can...) I bet you're fine with sticking with Apple and using an Apple II computer just because it's Apple branded though...
I've actually tested my battery life, I could get no less than over 17 hours of uptime on my phone in intensive use, and that was with the firmware my phone shipped with, which happened to had battery drain issue (which has been fixed in yesterday's update (yeah we had one yesterday too)) You can guess how much battery life I have now... (I am at 87% with over 3 hours of intensive use right now). It's not very surprising either, the Exynos draws much less power than the A5, so does the SAMOLED+ over the Retina Display, and the battery is 1650mah.... Facts speak for themselves.
Err.. no it's not, it can't do 1080p, it can't do 8mpix, and above all, it has a tendancy of going toward warm (unnatural) colours. The galaxy S2 Camera is about twice as good in terms of both pictures and video quality, that's what happens when you stick to an outdated phone.
From your previous comment I can very well see that.
Yes, using a non standard uber expensive proprietary product/cable such as Apple loves making you pay for.
Truth is iOS is great for people who like playing games on their phones, Android is the best for the rest (depending on the handset though, but just the fact that no one is telling what I should run on my phone already puts it way above iOS for me)
True. Sounds familiar though, doesn't it? Check out the PC vs. Mac debates. Same thing really. The reason for all the hardware bells/whistles on a PC is because Windows needs them.
Just because a camera has more MP doesn't mean it's better. Same with color specs.
Even the most fervent Android supporters (other than you, apparently) concede the fact that Android is NOT smoother than iOS.
Anyone who uses "UBER" in their vocabulary can't:
1. Be taken seriously...
2. Be older than 16...
Aside from that, most the things you've posted are all subjective. Aside maybe from the built in HDMI. I've seen 8 MP pics on other Android handsets, and the quality is abysmal compared to the iPhone 4. I'm not saying that subjectively, because other sites [non-Apple] have proved it. They've done side/side comparisons, and the quality isn't as good.
That's typical of Android Fanboys though. As others have said here, it's about "Mine is bigger, so it must be better" mentality.
And I think your full of "YOU KNOW WHAT" on the battery. Sorry, there's NO way ANY Android handset that can keep up with the iPhone's battery life. And no, sorry..turning off all the radios, wifi, etc. doesn't count. Because then it's not a phone, it's a paperweight
Then you used the wrong phone, if I use an iphone 3G with iOS4 it's also gonna lag and be utter crap.
It's more like iphones that become obsolete in a month because they can't follow the pace of android devices.
iOS was the best... 2 years ago, time to grow up and get back to the present and face the real world.
They are successful because of blinded fanboys like you, I don't believe that a company forcing its consumers to adopt to their views and policies is a "better company"
Anyone who uses "UBER" in their vocabulary can't:
1. Be taken seriously...
2. Be older than 16...
Aside from that, most the things you've posted are all subjective. Aside maybe from the built in HDMI. I've seen 8 MP pics on other Android handsets, and the quality is abysmal compared to the iPhone 4. I'm not saying that subjectively, because other sites [non-Apple] have proved it. They've done side/side comparisons, and the quality isn't as good.
That's typical of Android Fanboys though. As others have said here, it's about "Mine is bigger, so it must be better" mentality.
And I think your full of "YOU KNOW WHAT" on the battery. Sorry, there's NO way ANY Android handset that can keep up with the iPhone's battery life. And no, sorry..turning off all the radios, wifi, etc. doesn't count. Because then it's not a phone, it's a paperweight
The galaxy S2 already has a better battery life than the iphone 4 (and yes I was using the phone with wifi and phone turned ON)
How can you say "leaving the OS" aside when so much of what you mentioned has to do directly with the OS?
You need to serious redo this list.
You need to serious redo this list.
Wow...why all the hostility? Because people don't agree with you? You come on an Apple based forum, argue how much better Android and Android handsets are compared to iPhone iOS and iPhone, and you expect people to share your views? Then when they DON'T agree with you, you call them fanboys...? Who sounds like a fanboy??? LOL...
If you think Android and Android handsets are better, good for you. Be happy. Enjoy it. Root it, put on your custom ROM, run around telling everyone how wonderful it is...in the end, it's a phone. 2 years from now, no one will give a flying "F" what you used for a phone...
iPhones hold their own longer than android devices. We are 11 months into the iPhone 4's life and its still selling well so im not sure how you think they are obsolete? People buy what they want and that is something you cannot argue against.
Your second point, Apple aren't forcing me to do anything. Apple do offer the best customer service, that cannot be argued.
I suppose some people still think this is a great phone,iOS and Apps market. It's Apple, you either love the product or hate it.
iPhone's hold their resale value more than any other phone, most people want one and those that don't well?, each to their own.
Personally I still think the competition has to catch up, half of these other Smartphone are huge and lacking in the WOW factor
iPhone's hold their resale value more than any other phone, most people want one and those that don't well?, each to their own.
Personally I still think the competition has to catch up, half of these other Smartphone are huge and lacking in the WOW factor
Can you have over 17hrs of uptime in intensive use with your iphone 4 ? Because with my galaxyS2 I can, it's not subjective, it's just facts, period.
How did I use the wrong phone? ... I purchased the phone brand new (Just came out), and a month later it was unusable. How does that relate to an iPhone 3G using iOS 4? A month after purchasing an Android device and it's now garbage? You're comparing a 2 year old phone to the latest software. I'm talking about my BRAND NEW phone that was just released and within 30 days it stopped working. (It was the Samsung Galaxy S) I'll never go back after that experience. Oh and not to mention, it's easier to find a person who doesn't own a phone in Canada, than it is to find a person who owns an Android device.
And about the rest of your post... I'm not going to bother as it's just going to turn into a waste of time. An iPhone becoming obsolete in a month? Thanks for adding some humor to my day. I needed that.