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Unless an alien life form with miniature hands, those tasks are just as easily accomplished with a 4.3" device as with the iphone. I've had both, there is no difference. In fact, I found my Droid X to be EASIER to use one handed than my iphone because of swype. I prefer my iphone, but your parroted reason for poopooing a larger screen doesn't exist in the real world.

One handed use on these big phones seems to come down to two methods:

1. Bracing the sides to keep the phone upright.

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2. Balance the phone on four fingers on a shallow angle, while reaching your thumb across the screen.

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Is your one hand usage on a 4.3" screen anything like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTMHqLsZmI0

If so, holding the phone almost flat in your hand (looks about 20 degrees), while balancing on four fingers and hunched over is not what people are looking for when they try to use their device with one hand. I think that's why some are confused, it's not that you can't use it with one hand, it's that it's not comfortable, or even feasible depending on what you're doing.

With my iPhone I can support the bottom with my pinky and hold the phone with one hand at any angle. In number 1 above, you can't reach the whole screen, since you're fingers are applying pressure to keep the phone upright at that angle (gravity). In number 2 above, the thumb reach is greater, but you seem to be limited in the angles you can hold the phone. It seems the sweet spot is between 0 degrees (laying flat) and 45 degrees before gravity slips the phone out of your hands.

If I'm sitting back in my chair, or on the couch, or even walking, I hold the phone more upright. You can't play the "Balance the phone on 4 fingers" game in these situations, requiring the use of two hands.
 
Honestly, at the end of the day my phone is in my pocket 75% of the time. To that end, I'm really glad it's not huge. I could probably do a couple centimeters larger 3.7" or so, but honestly I'm fairly happy with it. I haven't tried a larger phone tho so this is purely assumption.
 
I have to say I'd like the iPhone to have a larger screen now. I find the current size a little restrictive these days. Just a small bump in size would do me though.
 
One handed use on these big phones seems to come down to two methods:

1. Bracing the sides to keep the phone upright.

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2. Balance the phone on four fingers on a shallow angle, while reaching your thumb across the screen.

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Is your one hand usage on a 4.3" screen anything like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTMHqLsZmI0

If so, holding the phone almost flat in your hand (looks about 20 degrees), while balancing on four fingers and hunched over is not what people are looking for when they try to use their device with one hand. I think that's why some are confused, it's not that you can't use it with one hand, it's that it's not comfortable, or even feasible depending on what you're doing.

With my iPhone I can support the bottom with my pinky and hold the phone with one hand at any angle. In number 1 above, you can't reach the whole screen, since you're fingers are applying pressure to keep the phone upright at that angle (gravity). In number 2 above, the thumb reach is greater, but you seem to be limited in the angles you can hold the phone. It seems the sweet spot is between 0 degrees (laying flat) and 45 degrees before gravity slips the phone out of your hands.

If I'm sitting back in my chair, or on the couch, or even walking, I hold the phone more upright. You can't play the "Balance the phone on 4 fingers" game in these situations, requiring the use of two hands.

So what you're saying is that even though I was able to use my Droid X one handed in a very comfortable and efficient manner, in reality I was actually doing it wrong therefore it's not really a one handed device? Got it! And thanks for clearing that up for me. :confused:

BTW, you chose a 5.3" device to discredit one handed use of a 4.3" device. Interesting twist there.
 
It all depends...

When ICS comes out your going to start seeing Android devices with no bottom buttons which will make a 5 inch a reality.

Also Android is getting much better with the battery life the Sg2 has great battery life.

Really, a friend of mine has one (SG2) and the battery is a nightmare, he was able to set the thing to last more on battery by turning off the live wallpapers, delete some widgets and other stuff. In the end he got a mostly plain (nothing fancy) phone OS but he manage to survive charging the phone less times during the day which is good for him.
 
So you admit you're a troll who has never used an iPhone. Nice...

iPhone Safari's back button is on the bottom left, very easy from single right hand.

I'm not going to stoop myself to name calling but I'm referring to nearly every single iPhone app.

Yeah I never used an iPhone lol

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So what you're saying is that even though I was able to use my Droid X one handed in a very comfortable and efficient manner, in reality I was actually doing it wrong therefore it's not really a one handed device? Got it! And thanks for clearing that up for me. :confused:

BTW, you chose a 5.3" device to discredit one handed use of a 4.3" device. Interesting twist there.

Do the screenshots and video link above accurately depict your workflow when using your phone with one hand?

If so, holding the phone almost flat in your hand (looks about 20 degrees), while balancing on four fingers and hunched over is not what people are looking for when they try to use their device with one hand.
 
None of those are issues with a 4.3" phone. That said, I prefer the iphone for iOS and all that goes with it. However, the 3.5" screen does cheapen the experience of what the iphone could truly be.

A crappy device "cheapens" the experience, not a screen that is .5" too small for the white whine complainers.
 
4.3" HTC Sensation...

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Can't reach all of the screen.

4.6" Samsung Galaxy Nexus

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Can't reach all of the screen.

3.5" iPhone

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Can reach all of the screen.

I want to be able to reach all parts of the screen.

Is that the reason why the screen is the size it is? I've no idea, but I'm bloody glad it is! A 4" screen is probably the maximum I could use one handed (although I have no 4" screened devices to hand to test). Although saying that, the 3.7" Lumia 710 I have just about pushes the furthest I can comfortably reach...

3.7" Nokia Lumia 710

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Can reach all of the screen.
 
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4.3" HTC Sensation...

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Can't reach all of the screen.

4.6" Samsung Galaxy Nexus

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Can't reach all of the screen.

3.5" iPhone

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Can reach all of the screen.

I want to be able to reach all parts of the screen.

Seems simple enough to me. I actually was quite alarmed looking at your screenshots! Without being able to support the bottom, I can very easily see you dropping both of those larger phones while attempting to reach way up there :eek:
 
A crappy device "cheapens" the experience, not a screen that is .5" too small for the white whine complainers.

For me it makes the device less usable. For you it may not. There are pros and cons to both platforms. For me the biggest con is the screen size. At this point, however, it's not enough to make me go back to android. But yes, for me a screen that is too small for my own personal preference cheapens the experience in the same way a rifle that won't straight, a boat that won't cut through chop well or a dog that won't fetch a downed duck without chewing it cheapens the experience of those otherwise pleasurable events.

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4.3" HTC Sensation...

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Can't reach all of the screen.

4.6" Samsung Galaxy Nexus

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Can't reach all of the screen.

3.5" iPhone

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Can reach all of the screen.

I want to be able to reach all parts of the screen.

Is that the reason why the screen is the size it is? I've no idea, but I'm bloody glad it is! A 4" screen is probably the maximum I could use one handed (although I have no 4" screened devices to hand to test). Although saying that, the 3.7" Lumia 710 I have just about pushes the furthest I can comfortably reach...

Interesting, It looks like to prove your point you had to move your hand UP on the iphone to the middle of the device but chose to keep it at the bottom of the larger devices thus making it more difficult to reach the very upper right of the screen. Nice biasing, you obviously understand data manipulation!:D
 
The trade off of the ability to reach the top corners of the screen vs. a better overall user experience when reading texts, emails, browsing the web, looking at pictures/videos, playing games, etc. are well worth it.

And really, it's not that hard to reach the screen. It's slightly cumbersome. Nothing more.
 
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Fitting comfortably in your pocket is a major requirement, IMO, for any cellular phone.

You don't want your phone to make you walk with a limp, do you?
 
4.3" HTC Sensation...

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Can't reach all of the screen.

4.6" Samsung Galaxy Nexus

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Can't reach all of the screen.

3.5" iPhone

Image

Can reach all of the screen.

I want to be able to reach all parts of the screen.

Is that the reason why the screen is the size it is? I've no idea, but I'm bloody glad it is!

I appreciate your post and opinion. But some may argue why would you want/need to reach to places that have nothing going on?

Like I mentioned before my gripe with apples back buttons (not safari) is I have to reach all the way across the screen. If apple increases the screen to 4" it will likely turn it into a two handed device for me. Whereas a larger screen android (4.3") is still useable one handed (for me).

I feel there is screen size, device and bezel size and just as important button layout. If everything I touch is in the bottom 3.5" portion of the screen then I don't care how large the screen is.
 
4.3" HTC Sensation...

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Can't reach all of the screen.

4.6" Samsung Galaxy Nexus

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Can't reach all of the screen.

3.5" iPhone

Image

Can reach all of the screen.

I want to be able to reach all parts of the screen.

Is that the reason why the screen is the size it is? I've no idea, but I'm bloody glad it is! A 4" screen is probably the maximum I could use one handed (although I have no 4" screened devices to hand to test). Although saying that, the 3.7" Lumia 710 I have just about pushes the furthest I can comfortably reach...

3.7" Nokia Lumia 710

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Can reach all of the screen.

You're holding it wrong :D
 
4.3" HTC Sensation...

Image

Can't reach all of the screen.

4.6" Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Image

Can't reach all of the screen.

3.5" iPhone

Image

Can reach all of the screen.

I want to be able to reach all parts of the screen.

Is that the reason why the screen is the size it is? I've no idea, but I'm bloody glad it is! A 4" screen is probably the maximum I could use one handed (although I have no 4" screened devices to hand to test). Although saying that, the 3.7" Lumia 710 I have just about pushes the furthest I can comfortably reach...

3.7" Nokia Lumia 710

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Can reach all of the screen.


Talk about being dramatic. You're a few millimeters away.

As I said earlier, the trade offs of a few millimeters vs. a better overall user experience when reading, typing, browsing, pics/vids, playing games, etc. are well worth it.
 
For me it makes the device less usable. For you it may not. There are pros and cons to both platforms. For me the biggest con is the screen size. At this point, however, it's not enough to make me go back to android. But yes, for me a screen that is too small for my own personal preference cheapens the experience in the same way a rifle that won't straight, a boat that won't cut through chop well or a dog that won't fetch a downed duck without chewing it cheapens the experience of those otherwise pleasurable events.


Yeah, but in those instances the things you mention aren't doing the intended job correctly.

The iPhone does its job just as intended, having a 3.5" screen isn't analogous to it being defective at its task.
 
Interesting, It looks like to prove your point you had to move your hand UP on the iphone to the middle of the device but chose to keep it at the bottom of the larger devices thus making it more difficult to reach the very upper right of the screen. Nice biasing, you obviously understand data manipulation!

I'm holding them all from the bottom. My hand naturally reaches higher up on the iPhone since it's a smaller device... but then, that's the whole point.

As I said earlier, the trade offs of a few millimeters vs. a better overall user experience when reading, typing, browsing, pics/vids, playing games, etc. are well worth it.

The inability to use the device one handed isn't a good trade-off if you ask me.
 
Interesting, It looks like to prove your point you had to move your hand UP on the iphone to the middle of the device but chose to keep it at the bottom of the larger devices thus making it more difficult to reach the very upper right of the screen. Nice biasing, you obviously understand data manipulation!:D

Is it your statement that he could not have reached the full length of the iPhone had his hand been at the bottom?
 
Suit yourself.

I wonder what happens the day Apple releases an iPhone larger than 3.5. Will it be worth it then, I wonder.

It'll be the greatest device ever invented and revolutionary and Apple will sell then so fast that fist fights will break out in mile long lines across the globe. :p

I'll likely still buy the next iphone installment because iOS is, in my opinion, so much better than currently available versions of android. Even if it has that little bitty 3.5" screen. And I'll still complain it's too small and it will still cheapen my browsing experience. But at least it won't lag, randomly reboot, and freeze at critical junctures. And if they do release a beautiful 4.3" iphone later this year then, well it will just be the greatest device ever invented and I'll buy it and find something else to complain about. Text re-flowing anyone?:D
 
Suit yourself.

I wonder what happens the day Apple releases an iPhone larger than 3.5. Will it be worth it then, I wonder.

Well as long as they make it a size that is usable one handed, then that is fine. Otherwise, if I had to pick between an iOS device that was unusuable with one hand or an Android device that was usable with one hand, id pick the iOS device.
 
4.3" HTC Sensation...

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Can't reach all of the screen.

4.6" Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Image

Can't reach all of the screen.

3.5" iPhone

Image

Can reach all of the screen.

I want to be able to reach all parts of the screen.

Is that the reason why the screen is the size it is? I've no idea, but I'm bloody glad it is! A 4" screen is probably the maximum I could use one handed (although I have no 4" screened devices to hand to test). Although saying that, the 3.7" Lumia 710 I have just about pushes the furthest I can comfortably reach...

3.7" Nokia Lumia 710

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Can reach all of the screen.

Your like OJ trying to put the glove on while stretching his hand. See it doesnt fit. try extending your thumb a little and it will reach.

Oh, you extend your thumb, I guess I didnt realize the thumb would move like that??

in fact on re examination you are stretching your thumb for the iphone picture and have the iphone cradled closer to your palm, while on the galaxy nexus you are obviously holding the phone farther away from your palm and not stretching.

I can reach every corner of my galaxy nexus with the joint of my thumb while holding it one handed. I guess its all what you want to show it to be. Biased much.
 
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