Why is there still no iPhone 4S jailbreak? Droid RAZR is already rooted on day 1!

ninjaw95 said:
if you care so much get of your ass and do it yourself. you should be thankful people are willing to spend their time to help you, and its all free.
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If this was actually feasible for more than 0.05% of the iPhone userbase, then I'm sure it'd happen. I consider myself to be a fairly smart guy (144 IQ according to an official IQ test, currently have a 3.75 overall GPA, 3.9 science GPA) and I have no idea where to even begin to develop a jailbreak. I would love to learn, but the learning curve is simply too steep (and probably for good reason... if hacking were easy, then the internet would not be a safe place at all). If I could even develop the skill, I'd probably have to work at it for several years and basically make it my career.

I do have one friend from highschool who probably has the skill to develop a jailbreak (brilliant kid - literally has an IQ of 180 and coding is his main expertise, but he actually is too lazy to bother working on a jailbreak).

I know the point you're making is that we should be thankful that the devs are kind enough to share their work with us. And I completely agree. But I also think it's an insult to their skill to even suggest that any one else could do it if all they had to do was "get off their ass"
 
ninjaw95 said:
if you care so much get of your ass and do it yourself. you should be thankful people are willing to spend their time to help you, and its all free.
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And why don't you?

The lack of a jailbreak is the reason why I left apple... The lack of donations is the reason why no one is actually stepping up to the plate.

I've said it before and i'll say it again. Jailbreaking is legit and we need a COMPANY that charges for the jailbreak and can EMPLOY professional coders to do something like this. Is the ONLY way the jailbreak community will survive.

Since everyone disses out paid jailbreaks, no one steps up to the plate.
 
McBeats said:
Thanks, guy. :) You misunderstood me and I don't care to explain myself any more. Go roll eyes somewhere else.
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What's to misunderstand? You said that if you knew you would have to wait this long for a jailbreak you would have gone to Android. That doesn't make sense to me.

I buy a phone based on hardware, OS and ecosystem. I knew that because of the hardware upgrade there may not be a jailbreak for quite a long time especially since a couple of the most prolific jailbreakers got real jobs. If you bought the iPhone 4S with the expectation to jailbreak you obviously made a mistake.

It just doesn't make sense to me.
 
If only Apple and Google were like Microsoft, the latter who actually provides support to the ChevronWP jailbreaking team!
 
The Highlander said:
And why don't you?

The lack of a jailbreak is the reason why I left apple... The lack of donations is the reason why no one is actually stepping up to the plate.

I've said it before and i'll say it again. Jailbreaking is legit and we need a COMPANY that charges for the jailbreak and can EMPLOY professional coders to do something like this. Is the ONLY way the jailbreak community will survive.

Since everyone disses out paid jailbreaks, no one steps up to the plate.
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What? iOS5 has been officially released non-beta less than two months. The iPhone 4 guys have had a tethered jb that is boss basically from the beginning. The iPhone 4s is a little harder nut to crack.. but there have been plenty of encouraging tweets of progress from the hard working dev team all along this way. I don't know what your hang up is with having to pay for the hack- but so glad you're with a different company now besides Apple. I've recently donated by the way. How bout you, since you want to pay so badly?

Apple would crucify any legit business entity that tried to profit from breaking their OS anyways, out of principle if nothing else. Think about it.....
 
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rocknblogger said:
What's to misunderstand? You said that if you knew you would have to wait this long for a jailbreak you would have gone to Android. That doesn't make sense to me.

I buy a phone based on hardware, OS and ecosystem. I knew that because of the hardware upgrade there may not be a jailbreak for quite a long time especially since a couple of the most prolific jailbreakers got real jobs. If you bought the iPhone 4S with the expectation to jailbreak you obviously made a mistake.

It just doesn't make sense to me.
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OK. You are right. It doesn't make sense, because there's still some misunderstanding. I want to point out that I didn't buy the phone initially because I can jailbreak. I bought it because it really is a great phone, including all of the reasons you mentioned above. I'm STICKING with the phone because I'm still able to jailbreak. I would have gone to android by now because I enjoy androids; they have come a long way. The iPhone has gotten a bit stale to me (not an uncommon feeling amongst even the best of us Apple device lovers). I haven't, because I'm still eligible to jailbreak on my i4 and am used to (or almost dependent on) several of its features like SSH, SBSettings, and Winterboard. It's my friends who have gone from their older, lower spec'd androids for the better i4S, bummed to realize they will be left in the dark for who knows how long. If you think that was a mistake, I'm not entirely disagreeing with you; they didn't really have a clue when making the purchase.

If you think that is still the dumbest thought on the matter, then fine. I just went out of my way to explain myself on the interwebz about some issue that is insignificant to everything productive in my life, which was likely the dumbest thing I've done today. :)
 
I agree with both sides here, I completely agree the devs are doing this for free and we all need to be grateful for the jailbreak whenever it is finished.

But I also agree with folks who say we should pay $10-20 per jailbreak as it would provide more incentive for the devs, reward their work, and allow quicker jailbreaks.

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jnook1 said:
I agree with both sides here, I completely agree the devs are doing this for free and we all need to be grateful for the jailbreak whenever it is finished.

But I also agree with folks who say we should pay $10-20 per jailbreak as it would provide more incentive for the devs, reward their work, and allow quicker jailbreaks.
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Just thinking out loud here there are a few million iPhone 4S' out there at the least, even if the jailbreak community is 1% of 5 million that's 50,000 jailbreakers. Charge $10 a jailbreak and truly dedicate your time to it and develop quick jailbreaks and that is $500,000 to the dev team just right now and just for iPhone 4S user base. Just saying...
 
Its sad that the most selling smartphone in the world only has like 4 or 5 hackers working on its jailbreak: pod2g, musclenerd and who else? Saurik?

On the other hand, Android has like hundreds or thousands of hackers for many different devices because its open source.

iPhone = only 2 jailbreakers... This is one of the reasons why next year Ill go Android.
 
Sensamic said:
Its sad that the most selling smartphone in the world only has like 4 or 5 hackers working on its jailbreak: pod2g, musclenerd and who else? Saurik?

On the other hand, Android has like hundreds or thousands of hackers for many different devices because its open source.

iPhone = only 2 jailbreakers... This is one of the reasons why next year Ill go Android.
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theres no need to hack android everything is pretty much there no need for sbsettings kind of mod etc..

just returned the galaxy nexus cos there no apps out there like apple apps... ull regret going android :cool:
 
All I know is I miss my jailbreak.! I'm more angry with Apple that they hold back so much in terms of the potential of the phone. If they gave us HALF of what the jailbreak community has, the iPhone would be that much more superior over other devices.
 
terraphantm said:
If this was actually feasible for more than 0.05% of the iPhone userbase, then I'm sure it'd happen. I consider myself to be a fairly smart guy (144 IQ according to an official IQ test, currently have a 3.75 overall GPA, 3.9 science GPA) and I have no idea where to even begin to develop a jailbreak. I would love to learn, but the learning curve is simply too steep (and probably for good reason... if hacking were easy, then the internet would not be a safe place at all). If I could even develop the skill, I'd probably have to work at it for several years and basically make it my career.

I do have one friend from highschool who probably has the skill to develop a jailbreak (brilliant kid - literally has an IQ of 180 and coding is his main expertise, but he actually is too lazy to bother working on a jailbreak).

I know the point you're making is that we should be thankful that the devs are kind enough to share their work with us. And I completely agree. But I also think it's an insult to their skill to even suggest that any one else could do it if all they had to do was "get off their ass"
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i didnt mean that everyone has the skill to do it and only laziness is the problem. i meant if this guys gonna complain and **** for something that other people are working on that he should somehow get involved in anyway possible and do something
 
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Who cares. Really?
All the Android users talk all day about how great their phones are, yet as soon as they get one, they root it and change it. I have no desire to jailbreak my 4s, it's a great phone out of the box. Go get a Razor, or Rezound, or whatever the flavor Android of the week is if this bothers you that bad.....I'm glad it's this hard. Cause that's what makes Apple so great, things just work right.
Try one of those easy to Root droids and you'll see for yourself......I've been over there, it ain't so great.
 
miss.manson said:
Okay I don't know if its just me or what but that comment made no sense. I own a 4s and when compared to a 4 its phenomenal so yeah... :rolleyes:
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don't mind him he been saying he is just waiting for the in/ul so he can sell It and get droid or some other phone. Not sure what he wants. If I was that unhappy I'd just sell or trade and split.
 
Because....

SGMD1 said:
Just saw this. I can't believe the iPhone 4S has been out for over two months and there is still no true untethered jailbreak. What's the hold up?

For all the complaining iPhone fans do about Android fragmentation, Android rooting seems to be a much more standard process than iPhone jailbreaking.
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Because the main hackers for Apple devices were hired by Apple, like Comex. Major hackers were hired, and they gave up tethered/untethered jail breaking and the jackreak community. Instead newer hackers (not new, but new the scene for releasing unethered jailbreaks instead of Comex and so on) are on the scene. Although it is taking a while, there were complications with the new Apple A5 Dual-Core processor.

I have heard that they have successfully untethered iOS 5 on iPhone 3GS, iPod Touch 3rd, iPhone 4 and iPod Touch 4th. However are going through tests to make sure they work very well before public release.

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Eager Beaver said:
Without a JB, the 4s is just a buggy 4, nothing to write home about :eek:
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That doesn't make much sense, the bugginess is software (excluding the battery issues, which Apple is working to fix ASAP). And jailbreak won't do anything but make it more buggy, not less.

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Gix1k said:
All I know is I miss my jailbreak.! I'm more angry with Apple that they hold back so much in terms of the potential of the phone. If they gave us HALF of what the jailbreak community has, the iPhone would be that much more superior over other devices.
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I used to Jailbreak iOS 4, but iOS 4 didn't have that many features worth boasting about. But iOS 5 is actually pretty decent. Although there are some tweaks I miss, I would still opt for stock iOS 5 than a jailbroken iOS 4 any day.

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jnook1 said:
I agree with both sides here, I completely agree the devs are doing this for free and we all need to be grateful for the jailbreak whenever it is finished.

But I also agree with folks who say we should pay $10-20 per jailbreak as it would provide more incentive for the devs, reward their work, and allow quicker jailbreaks.

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Just thinking out loud here there are a few million iPhone 4S' out there at the least, even if the jailbreak community is 1% of 5 million that's 50,000 jailbreakers. Charge $10 a jailbreak and truly dedicate your time to it and develop quick jailbreaks and that is $500,000 to the dev team just right now and just for iPhone 4S user base. Just saying...
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That's a pretty good idea. That would buy the dev teams the latest Apple devices for testing and if they earned even $200,000 (per jailbreak here) that could be their full-time job. Lets say then (think out loud) the dev teams charge $9.95 per jailbreak, per iOS 5.X release (5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4 and so on) they could earn at least $1,000,000 a year. Damn, I wish I was a hacker.

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jnook1 said:
I agree with both sides here, I completely agree the devs are doing this for free and we all need to be grateful for the jailbreak whenever it is finished.

But I also agree with folks who say we should pay $10-20 per jailbreak as it would provide more incentive for the devs, reward their work, and allow quicker jailbreaks.

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Just thinking out loud here there are a few million iPhone 4S' out there at the least, even if the jailbreak community is 1% of 5 million that's 50,000 jailbreakers. Charge $10 a jailbreak and truly dedicate your time to it and develop quick jailbreaks and that is $500,000 to the dev team just right now and just for iPhone 4S user base. Just saying...
Click to expand...

That's a pretty good idea. That would buy the dev teams the latest Apple devices for testing and if they earned even $200,000 (per jailbreak here) that could be their full-time job. Lets say then (think out loud) the dev teams charge $9.95 per jailbreak, per iOS 5.X release (5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4 and so on) they could earn at least $1,000,000 a year. Damn, I wish I was a hacker.
 
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