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Why no FaceTime HD and Siri?
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I don't mind the lack of siri... but the lack of HD Facetime is silly. With the awesome screen, it's a shame to have such a low quality front camera and FaceTime.
FaceTime HD is a miss...
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The component prices will have gone down over the year. I'm sure they can get 1.3MP camera for the same price at which they got VGA units last year. They're just saving it up for the next iPad. Its just the way marketing works.
it is not the price which is the reason it is not included.
MBA also has a very poor FaceTime camera.
it could be technological challenge which apple could not address or it is just pure marketing thing
iPad 2013 model - might include this
Siri and FaceTime HD
I agree first off with the people who think Siri doesn't make sense yet in an iPad. It just doesn't. Right now it really is just a phone type of feature. I think, though people will say it fails to do this currently with handling the data loads and lack of data coverage, but Siri is meant to feel like a ubiquitous friendly assistant that is there for you at any time, on the go, whatever. Right now the wi-fi iPad folks would have a limited experience with Siri and wouldn't use it very often and I think Apple is unhappy enough with this already with the iPhone. I think a lot of people see Siri as a toy on their phone that they don't really use, maybe here and there to dictate a text while in the car or take a crack at finding a Chinese place before giving up and typing it in. It'd be even more of a chintzy parlor-trick on the wi-fi iPads and that spells fragmentation of the experience between the two models and further trivialization of a feature that could really be something great as it develops in the future. Do I think it'd be cool to have Siri with you at all times and aware of everything you've done on your iPhone when you talk to your iPad, or even possibly eventually your Apple Television syncing through iCloud and personalizing itself to how you work with it? Sure, that's sounds really freaking cool! Almost like JARVIS in the Iron Man suit ("I have indeed been uploaded, sir.") In Siri's current form and given that she's still a beta and as people have mentioned that it would have to work differently on the iPhone versus the iPad and do different things, and that wi-fi users would be kinda left out to dry on it, I like Apple chilling back here until Siri really starts cooking. The dictation feature is welcome and I think very sober and nice of Apple to include on this. Well done.
For the camera and FaceTime HD I'm one of those folks that don't care. I could not care less. Am I the only one who thinks video calling is weird and awkward and does it for a laugh now and then but never really wants to? I am only 28 but I feel like an old man. I think as kids grow up with this stuff it's going to be way more common to have a video call and I'll be an old fuddy-duddy who just likes to either text or just say what I've gotta say, hang up, and see you at the bar. For certain apps (augmented reality ones particularly excite me) and the occasional pic or video on the fly to show how you can manipulate them on the device, fine, I get it. The thing needs the two cameras, okay. But honestly if they made a version with neither camera and dropped $100 off the price I'm pretty sure I'm there. But again, fragmentation.
I agree first off with the people who think Siri doesn't make sense yet in an iPad. It just doesn't. Right now it really is just a phone type of feature. I think, though people will say it fails to do this currently with handling the data loads and lack of data coverage, but Siri is meant to feel like a ubiquitous friendly assistant that is there for you at any time, on the go, whatever. Right now the wi-fi iPad folks would have a limited experience with Siri and wouldn't use it very often and I think Apple is unhappy enough with this already with the iPhone. I think a lot of people see Siri as a toy on their phone that they don't really use, maybe here and there to dictate a text while in the car or take a crack at finding a Chinese place before giving up and typing it in. It'd be even more of a chintzy parlor-trick on the wi-fi iPads and that spells fragmentation of the experience between the two models and further trivialization of a feature that could really be something great as it develops in the future. Do I think it'd be cool to have Siri with you at all times and aware of everything you've done on your iPhone when you talk to your iPad, or even possibly eventually your Apple Television syncing through iCloud and personalizing itself to how you work with it? Sure, that's sounds really freaking cool! Almost like JARVIS in the Iron Man suit ("I have indeed been uploaded, sir.") In Siri's current form and given that she's still a beta and as people have mentioned that it would have to work differently on the iPhone versus the iPad and do different things, and that wi-fi users would be kinda left out to dry on it, I like Apple chilling back here until Siri really starts cooking. The dictation feature is welcome and I think very sober and nice of Apple to include on this. Well done.
For the camera and FaceTime HD I'm one of those folks that don't care. I could not care less. Am I the only one who thinks video calling is weird and awkward and does it for a laugh now and then but never really wants to? I am only 28 but I feel like an old man. I think as kids grow up with this stuff it's going to be way more common to have a video call and I'll be an old fuddy-duddy who just likes to either text or just say what I've gotta say, hang up, and see you at the bar. For certain apps (augmented reality ones particularly excite me) and the occasional pic or video on the fly to show how you can manipulate them on the device, fine, I get it. The thing needs the two cameras, okay. But honestly if they made a version with neither camera and dropped $100 off the price I'm pretty sure I'm there. But again, fragmentation.
I'm sure when Asus can fit 1.2MP front camera and 8MP rear camera along with flash, Apple can easily fit 1.3MP front and 5MP rear cameras..
I'm trying to figure out. Next year, will this be the Old New iPad or the New Old iPad?
No Siri is pretty ridiculous, I just assumed it would be there. Its perfectly useful on iPad form, and Ive seen it running on the iPad 2 with some proxy server stuff.
Sucks that its not there.
Dictation is something at least though, I didn't find dictation apps useful on the iPad 2 but built into the OS for all input might be. We'll see.
Sucks that its not there.
Dictation is something at least though, I didn't find dictation apps useful on the iPad 2 but built into the OS for all input might be. We'll see.
i agree with most people's sentiment about siri not included sucks. vga front facing camera also is a little troubling.
i know apple had to give the new ipad a "wow" factor so that they can sell it. in order to do so, they put the retina display as priority #1. i don't have a problem with that. but i think the technology was SO new, that power efficiency issues with these high-def screens haven't yet been worked out, thus they had to put a battery with 70% more capacity just to run the same time as the ipad 2. now what is really troubling is that (of course this is just my opinion) i don't think steve jobs would have allowed the new ipad to be thicker. the sales pitch is always "best" "thinnest" "the most", not "slightly thicker". so again, in order to shoehorn that power hungry screen, the sacrificed the thinner form factor and the front facing camera quality (still at vga), amongst other things. again, this is pure conjecture, but i think they had a better processor available, but decided against it for power reasons... it would have been ridiculous to go back to the ipad 1 form factor...
just my opinion. yes, they will sell like hot cakes. yes, the user experience will be great, but in this day and age of samsung and asus breathing down their necks with quad-core ics tablets, i think it was a smaller jump than i expected. i have the ipad 2, and i'm sure i will drool over the new ipad's retina display, but i think i have enough self-control to hold off for the next version.
i know apple had to give the new ipad a "wow" factor so that they can sell it. in order to do so, they put the retina display as priority #1. i don't have a problem with that. but i think the technology was SO new, that power efficiency issues with these high-def screens haven't yet been worked out, thus they had to put a battery with 70% more capacity just to run the same time as the ipad 2. now what is really troubling is that (of course this is just my opinion) i don't think steve jobs would have allowed the new ipad to be thicker. the sales pitch is always "best" "thinnest" "the most", not "slightly thicker". so again, in order to shoehorn that power hungry screen, the sacrificed the thinner form factor and the front facing camera quality (still at vga), amongst other things. again, this is pure conjecture, but i think they had a better processor available, but decided against it for power reasons... it would have been ridiculous to go back to the ipad 1 form factor...
just my opinion. yes, they will sell like hot cakes. yes, the user experience will be great, but in this day and age of samsung and asus breathing down their necks with quad-core ics tablets, i think it was a smaller jump than i expected. i have the ipad 2, and i'm sure i will drool over the new ipad's retina display, but i think i have enough self-control to hold off for the next version.
Siri is still in beta and I don't want to call my stylist over to do my hair and makeup before I use Facetime HD.
Because no one (ok, almost no one) uses Facetime. And who the hell wants to talk to their ipad? Once the novelty wore off it wold be like Facetime - rarely, if ever, used. Better for them not to waste resources on that. Although they are running out ofnstuff to add to the next ipad!
Any science behind that statement, or are you just saying you don't use it? Everyone I know with an iDevice uses Facetime. My step-daughter for talking to her friends on her iPod, rather than using our home phone. All three of our household talking to grand-parents, siblings, aunts and uncles, etc who we live far from. Friends talking to their kids at Uni.
I think it's an obvious statement to say that Apple should have put a decent front-facing camera on this generation. Facetime calls are going to look worse on a higher-res screen.
As a software upgrade, I'd like to see Apple add group converations. Again, this would be good for families who live far away. Just for silly things like singing Happy Birthday together!
Ahhhhh, then you're the ones! Seriously, though, I work in San Francisco. I see tons of people using Iphones and Ipads every day. I have yet to see anyone using Facetime or Siri. Some tech site columnists have also commented on how almost no one uses them.
