Why not wait for 2018 Iphone instead?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by BlueNights, May 8, 2017.

  1. BlueNights macrumors newbie

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    Everybody seems to be so concern for a new redesign, but as we seen b4 redesign iPhones come with problems until the S version comes out. In 2018 we will most likely get a iPhone 8 plus. This year will be most likely a waste of money unless you get the iPhone 7s due to it being the most refine model of its series. I'll be getting an iPhone 7s plus, or I'll be waiting another year and get the inevitable iPhone 8 plus that will be more thought out and bigger than the 2017 one.
     
  2. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    Understand that I am an 'S' owner when I say this, but I really don't care whether new designs come with problems or not.

    99% of the reason I purchase an iPhone is because I like the design. I prefer the numbered upgrade path over the 'S' path precisely because it used to be redesigned.

    So, it was an utter disappointment that Apple did NOT redesign the 7. And if we get a 7S that is the FOURTH iteration of the 6 series I'm out. That will be four models of fugly looking iPhone I cannot stand. I didn't buy last year precisely because it was still fugly. So, I am in the market this year for new. Will have been waiting two years by the time the new iPhone releases.

    Hopefully, Apple won't disappoint me and will offer an alternative that ISN'T fugly this year. We'll see.

    PS. I mentioned I have the 'S' model. It's a 6s+ and I have it because of a series of unfortunate circumstances in mid to late 2015. Not because I coveted the damn thing.
     
  3. BlueNights thread starter macrumors newbie

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    If you think about it The IPhone 7 is a Redesign, the rear camera is different as well as the home button. Its just not a huge redesign. By now we all know IPhone 7s will be coming along with a special edition of some sought. That "edition" will be the newly redesign but will definitely come with problems. People keep saying OLED does not drain battery, THATS BULL, It drains the hell out of the battery no matter what processor is being used, this will be a common problem with this new model, but not the 7s version. You said you have an iPhone 6s plus, I wouldn't even bother with the 7 or 'edition" just wait another year and get the 8 since the 6s plus is a great phone, but then again its your money, you do whatever the heck you want with it, lol.
     
  4. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    I was willing to upgrade last year, just in the hopes I could get away from this phone with a new redesign. Yes, there was some redesign of the 7. The problem is that I consider that redesign to be even UGLIER than the design of the 6s/6s+. So, I did not upgrade.

    Should the 8 or whatever they will call it not be attractive to me, my wife and I will most likely move on. At that point Apple will have consistently delivered a fugly phone four times. I'm not waiting for the fifth time.
     
  5. DNichter macrumors 68040

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    I have never found this to be true and have owned every iPhone made except for the SE. Any version can have issues, although I haven't run into any. Most people are on yearly upgrade plans so it's pretty simple and cost effective just to upgrade yearly.
     
  6. CTHarrryH macrumors 65816

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    Gee I care about function and not how it looks - guess I'm strange in that sense
     
  7. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    Yes, that seems to be the general consensus around here. I am the odd man out.

    However, the major use of my phone is for…phone calls. I have televisions and computers at home for video/movies/tv. I have computers at home for games and heavy web browsing. So, my devices see limited texting, email and limited web browsing use.

    I work on a computer all day. So my phone sits. I don't need to use it then for email or web browsing as I am staring at three monitors directly in front of me for over 8 hours a day.

    The majority of my camera roll is full of pics I take to post to sites like this one, screen caps, or pictures to send the wife so she can see what's on the shelves at Walmart.

    So, as long as a phone can make calls, text, email and do light web browsing I don't need powerful processors, high-MP cameras or ram out the wazoo. Therefore, I buy my phones based on how they look.

    Just my personal preference.
     
  8. bufffilm, May 8, 2017
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    I want Oled...not sure how Apple will prevent burn-in but I'm watching to see what they do.

    The problem is Oled won't be on the 4.7" screen this year so I'm probably going to sit this year out. My 6s is doing fine (still on 9.0.2)...so waiting isn't a problem.

    I'll be damned if I give Apple $700 again for the same design phone again. You might...I won't.

    If they brought back the 3.5mm jack, then I'd reconsider. But that's not happening since the masses didn't boycott the ip7.
     
  9. Eggtastic macrumors 6502a

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    100% agree with eyoungren. I have an iPhone 6+ from day one. Now, it has been great and still serves me well. However, when September rolled around I was disappointed to see that lack of physical changes the 7+ provided.

    I was not convinced spending close to $1,000 on a phone that shares an almost identical design was smart. If it had major design changes then yes I would have upgraded.

    I felt snubbed but forgot about it because it is just a phone and my current one works fine. There are times where I go into a bestbuy / apple store and hold the newer iPhone 7+ and wish I had upgraded.

    If apple pulls this crap again I am switching to another brand until they decide to compete. I have some faith that they realize that samsung is coming out swinging and they better deliver come September.
     
  10. BlueNights thread starter macrumors newbie

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    The problem with that is everything, The s8 is a great phone, new this, new that, but at the end of the day it does not perform better than iPhone 7, the screen easily shatters, the battery will degrade drastically in 1 year.

    So for new looks, that's what's most likely your paying for, my brothers s7 battery lasts about 2-3 hours sot normal usage and resolution on low, my iPhone 4 last all day normal usage and its a old a** phone, lol.

    I rather have a reliable smartphone than a pretty one, but my point isn't about looks, its about rushing to a phone that will most likely will have problems while its 2nd gen won't.

    And I don't know why people keep saying that upgrading every years is a good thing and that it saves you money, it does not, you are basically renting a phone, the phone is not yours, and if anything happens to that phone you will be paying for it while buying a new one, the best way is owning the phone instead of showing off that you got the best new thing, the only people who win with that is Apple and the carrier.
     
  11. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    Well…where do I start?

    I realize you're using the Galaxy S8 as an example, but that's really a secondary choice for me now. I'm actually interested in the Huawei P10 Plus, if I can find an unlocked one when it comes time to upgrade.

    No worries…I did 3.5 years with an HTC Touch Pro, which is a Windows Mobile phone before I came to iPhone. Thing was a tank, but WiFi sucked battery like you wouldn't believe. One of the reasons I am a big proponent of using the Unlimited Data I pay for.

    That old Touch Pro was still going in 2014 when I sent it off to someone. I got it in May of 2009 so five years was pretty good.

    Don't get me wrong, quality is actually an important factor to me. I'm not into paying hundreds of dollars for garbage. We only upgrade once every 2 to 3.5 years so that money is important. But, in the same way, we LIVE with our phones for that long. I don't want ugly.

    I'm willing to live with a few issues if the phone looks good. Some people want to wait until the 'S' model. The inverse of that is that you're stuck with last year's model when the new redesigned model has been released.

    I'd rather hop from redesign to redesign. Apple broke that pattern with the 7/7+. That is just my personal preference.

    As to your last paragraph…except for the renting part I agree with you. We buy our phones and we don't sell them to fund new phones. We keep them until they either die or we find someone that is in need of a phone. So, upgrading every year IS an expensive propsition for us and not something I care to engage in since we do keep our phones.

    But again, we have to live with these phones for a while. I'd rather like the device I'm going to be using for that length of time rather than hating it every time I look at it.
     
  12. Relentless Power, May 8, 2017
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    "Boycotting" the iPhone 7 or "Voting with your wallet" Won't change what Apple decides to do with the 3.5 Jack or any other past Changes they have made. Their a company out to make money and they have a vision far greater than we can see on a Macrumors community. Even if it means others don't share that vision. I do admire Apple for not being afraid to take risks that will likely not be liked by many, however, if anyone thinks they do not know what their doing, they're sadly mistaken. As the consumer, we have the option of either supporting their product Line or not. It's all preference.

    I had a discussion with EYoungren yesterday and I agree Apple has made some drastic moves that have put consumers in a difficult position and Apple isn't always in the right, but it's interesting to see their current path they have taken and expansion across the product line.
     
  13. eyoungren, May 8, 2017
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    First! Call me Erik. :)

    Second, part of that conversation involved Apple not being the sole offender when it comes to this sort of thing. As you fairly pointed out, other manufacturers are guilty of the same thing. I think we agreed that it came down to how Apple dealt with it as well as the perception that causes in some online forums (specifically here on MR).

    My point then and now (as I stated) was not to indict Apple, but merely to explain that Apple does as it wishes. That correlates with your statements above about Apple's vision for it's products.

    I happened to agree with Apple removing the headphone jack. In my own opinion, it's an antiquated technology and it was holding Apple's design back. It was more than time for it to go. Others disagree and that's understandable given that this technology is pretty well integrated in to society.

    But you don't push progress forward by keeping one foot in the past. However, I don't agree with everything Apple does, so this is why it's good to have choice. It's also another reason that I am not invested in Apple's ecosystem. I can leave with no effects at any time. Or keep using older technology, such as the 2005 era PowerMac G5 I am typing this on.
     
  14. aneftp macrumors 601

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    High end phones have gotten so powerful. For the average consumer (90% of the population). I don't think one even needs to upgrade every 2 years. High end phones are built to last 3 years easily at this point (barring wear and tear)

    Apple I think has come to realize this and decided to go on a 3 year cycle with not changing the body style of the iPhone.

    The redesign this year will be substantial in terms of aesthetics. But internals probably will be marginally better. I just think phones have gotten so good. I'm not in a rush to buy the lastest greatest any more.

    I picked up a lg G5 for dirt cheap $120 att next Best Buy promo brand new. I have a 6s plus I'm perfectly happen with. iPhone 7 is first iPhone I haven't gotten first day. I gave my wife the iPhone 7 plus since she hated battery life on the iPhone 6s 4.7 inch. But I skipped it.

    I will tak a wait and see approach to the 2017 iPhone. Not in a rush. Maybe if there is a good trade in promo to temp me. But I'm not dropping another $900 on an iPhone for myself like I did for my wife.
     
  15. Relentless Power, May 8, 2017
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    I can now officially call you Erik! No more EYoungren. I have officially graduated one more step in the macrumors community. :)

    I share your sentiments. I was just posting earlier today to another forum member who was complaining about the iPhone 7's lack there of missing 3.5 Jack. That forum member basically stated he was still mad at the 3.5 Jack being deleted. I see it as you have options. Apple isn't forcing anyone to purchase the iPhone 7 and other models still have the Jack, even if they moved away from this technology. Apple's vision is now with the Airpods, which not everyone agree's with this. It's a two sided argument that I see both views.

    I can still appreciate Apple offering other iPhones that still retains the Jack. And the nice thing about Apple products as you indicated, is they last well outside their expected life span as you're using a G5. Essentially, as a consumer, we have options and As much as I support Apple, I don't condone everything they do and They make mistakes. But I still appreciate their quality hardware and overall customer service experience is very good. But I also am one to be heavily invested in their ecosystem. It's a difficult thing to walk away from and Apple knows this.
     
  16. bufffilm, May 8, 2017
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    Don't get me wrong...when/if I get a phone to replace the 6s, it might not have a 3.5mm jack...that is not of paramount importance to me.

    I'd welcome its return but I could live with the dongle.
     
  17. cbreze macrumors 6502

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    Gee, same here. It's not a fashion statement.
    By the time I slide a thin leather shell on it, it looks pretty dang sweet anyhow. But function is top priority. Who says any redesign will automatically be better anyway?
     
  18. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    I don't see the iPhone as a fashion statement either. Just because someone likes the way something looks it doesn't automatically follow that they think this way.

    Should I assume the opposite is true however? I mean if it's not a fashion statement to you that it implies that you don't really care the way it looks. Function is top priority as you say.

    So why bother with a thin leather shell?

    Just shove it into a Otterbox. Function, protection, but no fashion statement.

    I mean, if we are going to assume extremes here…

    But your statement of how it looks with the thin leather shell implies that you do have some consideration for form.

    The difference between us then is that I value form over function and you value function over form. Not that either one of us cares nothing for the other.

    Different perspectives is all.
     
  19. cbreze macrumors 6502

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    Agreed, different perspectives. The reason for a case is safety against drops. Slippery phones. Otter box is way over the top, but some love em. Perspectives again. But I guess since I put the same slim leather shell on all my phones it makes them all look alike. :-/
    If someone goes case-less every time then I could understand the need for a physical appearance upgrade. Guess we'll see with the 8 whether or not it is accepted by the masses or not. I think the typical isheeple as some call those that just buy every iPhone no matter what could probably care more but don't.
     
  20. creamz macrumors member

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    Coming from someone who never had an iPhone, and with my current phone lasted more than 3 years I find it silly to wait for an iphone 8. Most of my friends are telling me to wait but seriously I just want to try an iPhone now. What the new redesign would do is to please the ones who have been following the iPhone.

    I am not saying the design is unimportant but just saying that it only matters to me the most at the point of purchase. I don't really care much otherwise. Else I would not have used a phone for over 3 years. Tbh, if it is not because I wanted to try iOS, I won't even think of getting a new phone since it is still pretty smooth for my daily usage.
     
  21. Defender2010 macrumors 68030

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    "Fugly" is subjective. What's attractive to you or your wife may not be to others and vice versa.
     
  22. flyinmac macrumors 68030

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    Personally, the appearance of a phone is its least important factor to me.

    Durability, and serving its primary purpose are what I look at.

    My iPhone 5 has served me well. It's been a durable tank. And it still does everything that I want (and capable of more than I care about).

    Unless it suddenly fails to function or becomes unable to serve its primary purpose, I don't see a replacement in the near future.

    It's very possible that Apple won't even be making iPhones by the time I replace this thing (unless it dies).
     
  23. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    That is true. It is my opinion only.
    --- Post Merged, May 9, 2017 ---
    Ahh, and yet you have the iPhone 5. One of the best looking iPhones Apple has made. ;)
     
  24. barkomatic macrumors 68040

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    If it's such an unacceptable disaster that I can't use the 2017 iPhone I'll just return it and get a Galaxy. However, I doubt that will be the case.
     
  25. michael9891 macrumors 6502a

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    I've never experienced any problems with my non S version iPhones. Why do so many people think it's a waste of time buying until the S version comes out? Certainly nothing wrong with my 7.

    Wasn't it the 4s that had antenna problems anyway? Seems stupid to wait because you assume a phone will have problems. If you like the look of something and can afford it, buy it.
     

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