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What I meant and mean is if they added all the functions that people want but don't change looks or icons etc. it would be fine with me. I don't object to looking good - just function first
 
I've never experienced any problems with my non S version iPhones. Why do so many people think it's a waste of time buying until the S version comes out? Certainly nothing wrong with my 7.

Wasn't it the 4s that had antenna problems anyway? Seems stupid to wait because you assume a phone will have problems. If you like the look of something and can afford it, buy it.
The 4 had antenna problems.
 
I've never experienced any problems with my non S version iPhones. Why do so many people think it's a waste of time buying until the S version comes out? Certainly nothing wrong with my 7.

Wasn't it the 4s that had antenna problems anyway? Seems stupid to wait because you assume a phone will have problems. If you like the look of something and can afford it, buy it.

4s, 5s, 6s, no problems, IPhone 7 plus has a cracking nose, hissing sound, chipping paint, etc.
 
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Well I've never had any problems with any of my iPhones and neither have the vast majority of people. Anything can have faults, I just don't buy this wait for the s rubbish.
 
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4s, 5s, 6s, no problems, IPhone 7 plus has a cracking nose, hissing sound, chipping paint, etc.

And what?

The ip7+ isn't a redesign...technically, it's the third generation of the 6+.

Problems can plague any phone...doesn't matter if it's a new design or the S version.
 
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I've never experienced any problems with my non S version iPhones. Why do so many people think it's a waste of time buying until the S version comes out? Certainly nothing wrong with my 7.

Wasn't it the 4s that had antenna problems anyway? Seems stupid to wait because you assume a phone will have problems. If you like the look of something and can afford it, buy it.
No. The iPhone 4 had antenna problems. This was fixed in the iPhone 4S.
 
I have never had an issue with any iPhone, except a software issue I believe with the 4 or 4s where typing slowed to a crawl when texting. That was resolved by the next update though.
 
Dont' think there will be a huge difference on hardware, it doesn't make sense.

By the way, the most important thing for iPhone is still OS, basically I need to pay for iOS, since hardware looks odd when Ive took charge.
 
Understand that I am an 'S' owner when I say this, but I really don't care whether new designs come with problems or not.

99% of the reason I purchase an iPhone is because I like the design. I prefer the numbered upgrade path over the 'S' path precisely because it used to be redesigned.

So, it was an utter disappointment that Apple did NOT redesign the 7. And if we get a 7S that is the FOURTH iteration of the 6 series I'm out. That will be four models of fugly looking iPhone I cannot stand. I didn't buy last year precisely because it was still fugly. So, I am in the market this year for new. Will have been waiting two years by the time the new iPhone releases.

Hopefully, Apple won't disappoint me and will offer an alternative that ISN'T fugly this year. We'll see.

PS. I mentioned I have the 'S' model. It's a 6s+ and I have it because of a series of unfortunate circumstances in mid to late 2015. Not because I coveted the damn thing.
The 7 was a nice design change, and do you really need such changes in design? I feel like companies just do it now because people are asking for it, not because there can be significant changes. I am not against design changes, but I think the 7 is good. I think the 6/6S are ugly but not the 7, it looks very nice regardless of the color.
 
The 7 was a nice design change, and do you really need such changes in design? I feel like companies just do it now because people are asking for it, not because there can be significant changes. I am not against design changes, but I think the 7 is good. I think the 6/6S are ugly but not the 7, it looks very nice regardless of the color.

Huh? You think the ip6 and the 6s are ugly...but the ip7 is nice?

I don't get it.

The only external difference really is no 3.5mm jack. If that last part is a big deal for you, I guess you are into design symmetry.

Nothing wrong with that...but that tendency usually isn't voiced on phone forums.
 
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Huh? You think the ip6 and the 6s are ugly...but the ip7 is nice?

I don't get it.

The only external difference really is no 3.5mm jack. If that last part is a big deal for you, I guess you are into design symmetry.

Nothing wrong with that...but that tendency usually isn't voiced on phone forums.

The only external difference is no headphone jack? I hadn't considered the headphone jack and bottom symmetry as a result of that. But that does look better, however I would prefer a headphone jack personally.

No, it's the back that was ugly. As you can see, the headphone jack wasn't quite the only exterior difference:
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The casing shape wasn't changes but the design was, and it reminded me that Apple could make a good looking phone again. It's not perfect but it certainly looks a whole lot better in my opinion.
 
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I like to get the most out of my upgrades, and keep my devices for a bit longer.

I'm still on the iPhone 6 as it still feels very much current (well, until Samsung released the S8 at least). I can still run the same software as you can on the iPhone 7. I have the same size screen, resolution, TouchID, ApplePay, et.c.

I haven't been tempted by the newer models, 6S and 7, but the iPhone 8 will hopefully be the biggest change to the iPhone for the coming 2-3 years, so I should get plenty of use of it.

Haven't had any issues with any of my iPhones. I did get a bent iPhone 6 on the release day, but I got a brand new unit the same day which has been flawless for nearly three years. It's all covered under warranty anyway so I see no reason to worry.
 
The only external difference is no headphone jack? I hadn't considered the headphone jack and bottom symmetry as a result of that. But that does look better, however I would prefer a headphone jack personally.

No, it's the back that was ugly. As you can see, the headphone jack wasn't quite the only exterior difference:
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The casing shape wasn't changes but the design was, and it reminded me that Apple could make a good looking phone again. It's not perfect but it certainly looks a whole lot better in my opinion.

You have a point. Hadn't compared the backs...good spot.

One rumor, unlikely as it sounds...is that Oled might be on the 7s.

I would definitely line-up to buy a 7s then, but I think it's improbable.
 
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Everybody seems to be so concern for a new redesign, but as we seen b4 redesign iPhones come with problems until the S version comes out. In 2018 we will most likely get a iPhone 8 plus. This year will be most likely a waste of money unless you get the iPhone 7s due to it being the most refine model of its series. I'll be getting an iPhone 7s plus, or I'll be waiting another year and get the inevitable iPhone 8 plus that will be more thought out and bigger than the 2017 one.

I used to buy a new iPhone every year NOT any more it so expensive that I am going to keep my 6+ as long as I can it does every thing i need
 
The 7 was a nice design change, and do you really need such changes in design? I feel like companies just do it now because people are asking for it, not because there can be significant changes. I am not against design changes, but I think the 7 is good. I think the 6/6S are ugly but not the 7, it looks very nice regardless of the color.
Do I need the change?

No.

Do I want the change after 2.5 to 3.5 years or more with the same phone?

Yes.

I wasn't prepared to buy a phone that looked similar to the one I bought already a year after buying the 6s. Had circumstance not intervened I'd still be on my 5. You may think the 7 looks nice and that's fine. I think it's simpky an iteration on the same design.

I didn't buy it. And if the 8 or 7s or whatever Apple calls it is the same design I won't buy it either.
 
I used to buy a new iPhone every year NOT any more it so expensive that I am going to keep my 6+ as long as I can it does every thing i need

Ultimately, this might hurt Apple if people continue to keep the mindset you have. Which there's nothing wrong with that, it's just indicative that the price point of the iPhone continues to rise and others are feeling that the features are not justifying the price point.

This is reason enough for Apple to continue to improve software and hardware related features, and not allow the iPhone to plateau where the consumer feels no need to upgrade.
 
Do I need the change?

No.

Do I want the change after 2.5 to 3.5 years or more with the same phone?

Yes.

I wasn't prepared to buy a phone that looked similar to the one I bought already a year after buying the 6s. Had circumstance not intervened I'd still be on my 5. You may think the 7 looks nice and that's fine. I think it's simpky an iteration on the same design.

I didn't buy it. And if the 8 or 7s or whatever Apple calls it is the same design I won't buy it either.
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Do I need a updated version of fat fugly protruding vertical "WART" on back of my iPhone :D

Let me guess ;)

The answer will be :- Hell No :D
 
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Do I need a updated version of fat fugly protruding vertical "WART" on back of my iPhone :D

Let me guess ;)

The answer will be :- Hell No :D



@eyoungren is saying (Which I agree) is he doesn't feel the need to justify purchasing another iPhone that has the same design for the last three years. The features that are included in the iPhone 7 are nice, but they're not appealing enough for him to want to upgrade from his 6s to something that basically is the same thing he already has now, which sufficiently works for his current needs.

However, he wants to have an iPhone that has a refreshed look that would provoke him to want to upgrade. And Apple has not done that and the current design has somewhat become stagnant for the sake of those looking for physical changes, which hopefully will happen this year.

I have the iPhone 7 Plus, which is a nice phone, but ultimately I would have been happy keeping my 6S Plus, because they look physically the same to me, even with the upgraded incremental features.
 
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Quite simply, there is little difference between what I need my iPhone 5 to do and what the latest iPhone would offer that I actually need.

I don't need or desire Apple Pay. And I don't need or want a larger phone.

Sure the newer phones may be faster. But I really can't remember ever waiting for my iPhone 5 to finish a task.

Sure the new phones may be 64-BIT. But that hasn't translated into being something that has made my 32-BIT phone incapable of anything I need.

I really would be completely unable to find any reason to buy a new iPhone other than being able to say I have the newest iPhone. Which in my life would amount to being a worthless point.

In reality, we've reached a point where the needs have been met for many years. And there hasn't been a new feature introduced that grabs my attention and makes me dream of having that feature.

I really couldn't even imagine what feature could compel me to upgrade from my iPhone 5. It does everything I need. And is capable of more than I want to do with my phone.

It's just really hard to imagine any point coming that I'm going to wish I had the latest iPhone.

About the only thing that might create that need, would be if Apple required all developers to abandon support for 32-BIT iPhones so that our favorite apps would cease to function.

But, if Apple did that, I'd likely switch to Android just because I'd view that as dirty tactics and would make me view Apple quite negatively.

Kind of like back in the 80's when Apple pulled the plug rather abruptly on the Apple II series. They expected that'd force us to migrate to the Mac. But, those of us who had invested thousands of dollars into the Apple II series (like the latest IIgs) felt quite betrayed. So... we said f#%€ you too, and switched to IBM PC's. Which actually worked to our benefit in the end. And Apple to this day has never recovered the market share that they lost in the computer industry.

So.. if they pull a similar tactic with iOS, they better be ready for the backlash that'll come from those of us who will likely be forever lost. Those of us who may have eventually upgraded to newer iPhones would likely bail completely and switch to Android like we did back in the 80's to PC's.

Ok... clarification, Apple II series discontinued in 1992 and 1993. But my point is still the same.

Anyway, hopefully Apple won't try to force us to upgrade. As stated that'd be bad. But hopefully they will have some amazing idea that'll make people like me desire a new phone.
 
Unless you're on an expensive "free phone every year" plan (the norm in the US but not everywhere else), it makes no sense to get a new phone every year. I usually change phones if one dies, or if i really want a new feature that my current phone is too slow for.

Unfortunately for Apple, the iPhones don't die that easily, and the last feature i upgraded for was handoff/continuity/however they call it. I'm also one of those talibans that likes small phones, so I'm keeping my SE until they come up with something i want - and works on the small iphones.
 
Unless you're on an expensive "free phone every year" plan (the norm in the US but not everywhere else), it makes no sense to get a new phone every year. I usually change phones if one dies, or if i really want a new feature that my current phone is too slow for.

Unfortunately for Apple, the iPhones don't die that easily, and the last feature i upgraded for was handoff/continuity/however they call it. I'm also one of those talibans that likes small phones, so I'm keeping my SE until they come up with something i want - and works on the small iphones.

Unfortunately I've found Bluetooth support in OS X to be so unreliable that connectivity features are hardly a selling point for me. Strangely, on the same mac with the same iphone I have excellent Bluetooth connectivity with Windows 10.
 
The 7 was a nice design change, and do you really need such changes in design? I feel like companies just do it now because people are asking for it, not because there can be significant changes. I am not against design changes, but I think the 7 is good. I think the 6/6S are ugly but not the 7, it looks very nice regardless of the color.

The design of the 7 is the same as the 6 and the 6S. The statement that one is ugly and other not is laughable.
 
Unfortunately I've found Bluetooth support in OS X to be so unreliable that connectivity features are hardly a selling point for me. Strangely, on the same mac with the same iphone I have excellent Bluetooth connectivity with Windows 10.

I don't really use BT beyond only one thing: answering calls that come on my phone from my laptop. In the environment I use that, it works. It was worth upgrading from a 4S to a 5S back then ;)
 
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