It's crazy how we all have these pre-set assumptions that other people live the same lifestyles we do. I don't know anyone of my family and friends who use headphones for anything, with the exception of my extended family cousins who are teenagers.
It's crazy how we all have these pre-set assumptions that other people live the same lifestyles we do. I don't know anyone of my family and friends who use headphones for anything, with the exception of my extended family cousins who are teenagers.
I dunno. Listening to an initial submission on speakers comparable to what people actually use? Doesn't sound that crazy to me. Especially when the initial submissions aren't likely to be recorded in conditions that allow for critical listening in the first place.
Depends on what you mean by "good".Good sound is important. Speakers are the conduit of sound, but not necessarily good sound. 4 speakers do not automatically sound better than 2 by shear number (Quantity over quality). Frankly it's impossible for a under 1" thick device to have good sound just on the scientific basis for how speakers work.
Depends on what you mean by "good".
When the new macbook first came out this forum was flooded by people astounded by how good and loud those tiny speakers were.
Are you involved in the professional music business? Most music "demos" are recorded with the same fidelity as those produced by professional studios, and we're not necessarily even talking about that minimal level of submission. Often a musician gets one shot at pitching a song, and if it's on a low quality speakers, that's going to have an impact on how the music is heard. All the music professionals I know give the courtesy of listening to the music the way it was produced, regardless of the source -- over a high quality sound system.
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The speakers in the iPad Pro are designed to enhance watching cat videos on YouTube, not to aid in the critical listening of professional audio, or even merely passively enjoying all the music has to offer.
Depends on what you mean by "good".
When the new macbook first came out this forum was flooded by people astounded by how good and loud those tiny speakers were.
Audio snob. Got it.Good sound is something you would get from a traditional high end speaker system. On a device like an iPad I'm happy with clear reproduction and imperceptible distortion at an audible volume. Built-in device speakers are utilitarian and should be implemented that way. But again, my point of my post is that 4 tiny speakers do not by shear number sound 2x better than 2 tiny speakers.
It's crazy how we all have these pre-set assumptions that other people live the same lifestyles we do. I don't know anyone of my family and friends who use headphones for anything, with the exception of my extended family cousins who are teenagers.
A stereo mix heard on headphones is going to sound diferent than a stereo mix heard on proper speakers, too.
One of the biggest factors in my decision to upgrade is the increased speaker volume. I often watch TV on my iPad while working in the kitchen, and if the fan is on over the oven I have a hard time hearing the sound.
Good sound is something you would get from a traditional high end speaker system. On a device like an iPad I'm happy with clear reproduction and imperceptible distortion at an audible volume. Built-in device speakers are utilitarian and should be implemented that way. But again, my point of my post is that 4 tiny speakers do not by shear number sound 2x better than 2 tiny speakers.
Audio snob. Got it.
Good sound is important. Speakers are the conduit of sound, but not necessarily good sound. 4 speakers do not automatically sound better than 2 by shear number (Quantity over quality). Frankly it's impossible for a under 1" thick device to have good sound just on the scientific basis for how speakers work.
Apple increased the speakers to 4 because it looks good on a spec sheet and is an easy way to differentiate from the Air 2. It has zero to do with providing the end user with good sound. If sound is important a pair of $40 headphones, earbuds or BT speaker is going to yield better audio. Good sound is not coming out of nickel sized woofers no matter how many you link together.
Also for a "pro" I think more battery power would be a bigger selling point. I mean if the "pro" is about getting work done. However, more battery power also means more weight and I'm sure Apple did not want to go over the 1lb mark.
I always look at photo's like this and see how tiny the logic board it, and it always makes me wonder.
What would it be like if there were say 2 or 3 CPU/GPU's in there (there is space for them) all working in tandem.
It's a shame more computing power could not be put there, Multiple CPU's and GPU's are not really done much these days and never on mobile devices.
I think it's a dying configuration these days, instead of putting multiple components they combine it into a single package. Which is basically why we have multi-core CPUs and GPUs with anything up to hundreds of cores (I'm just talking in general there.)
But yeah, it would still be technically possible but it would eat the battery so fast they'd have to increase the capacity by so much that the devices would be much thicker and much heavier. No chance of that with Apple![]()
I will just reply in the same manner.
Apple never does things simply to look good on a spec sheet (grand claim with no proof). They still have 2gb ram and after all these years they still keep the MP down on their cameras, because they try to improve the user experience, not the spec sheet (semi-accurate argument to back up my dubious first statement).
4 speakers will be louder and clearer than two speakers if calibrated well, because each speaker has less to do and each driver had less audio frequencies to output.
First to say Apple never does things purely for marketing isn't being honest. I give you Live Photos off the top of my head. Cool but not really a useful feature and quite ignored after launch. It was mostly something for reviewers to say was new over the 6.
Second, 4 speakers is NOT necessarily louder and clearer than 2. It has nothing to do with calibration - that isn't even a speaker function as speakers are "dumb" devices. Moreover, speakers are independent of each other not sharing a work load. Independence is what stereo, and other multi channel audio is about. It's why when you listen to a song you might hear guitar on the right and drums on the left. Or if watching a movie a helicopter in the background, sounds of running going left to right and gun fight center screen. More speakers don't lower the amount of work each speaker has to do. The L has its job, the R it's.
Loudness and clarity, aside from the physical design of the speaker, depends on an external power source. So 4x2w obviously isn't going to be as loud as 2x5w. In the iPad Pro's case Apple is silent on whether the power in the Pro 9.7 have the same rating as the Air2 or if they increased them. The spec sheet just says 4 speakers. If it's the same power rating then less power is going into each speaker but the total output is the same.
http://www.explainthatstuff.com/loudspeakers.html
Have you not read a single review or played with the iPad Pro yourself? The speakers are widely accepted as better and louder than iPad Air 2, and the best in class.
The 12.9-inch Pro’s speakers are better by virtue of being larger, and a decent Bluetooth speaker is still probably a better way to play music for an impromptu party, but the 9.7-inch iPad Pro’s speakers make it a respectable portable jukebox and a better mobile Netflix machine.
Exactly - Best in class. There are workhorse tugboats, there are palatial yachts. The 9.7 Pro as a work tool is a tugboat with speakers to match. They are the best speakers ever put in a tugboat.
Yes, I've read the reviews. Here's the one that counts from the respected Arstechnica and capsulates everything I've said about speakers here (underline and italics are mine for emphasis):
No.. That contradicts everything you said. They are saying the speakers are better.
Sorry, you are wrong-o. Stop trolling and read all my posts in this thread and the points each was making -- yes, start with the first.
Also I never wrote the Pro speakers were not better than the Air2. I said Apple was silent on specifications about the Pro speakers other than there were four of them. #readingcomprehension.
The spec sheet just says 4 speakers. If it's the same power rating then less power is going into each speaker but the total output is the same.