Wi-Fi Sync App Rejected by Apple

[HLdan]

There is no possible "good reason" for rejecting a perfectly useful and functional app. The only justifications would be if an app broke a law or gained unauthorized access to users data. In this case, I am pretty sure it's neither of the two.

That's an extremely close-minded response. There's always a reason for something, whether you think it's good or not is subjective. You're not sure of anything, you're just deciding that Apple is screwing people. I'm open-minded enough to look at both sides. Either the developer's app is not meeting all the requirements or Apple has a plan of action for a feature like this with Mobileme. Either way I won't say it's the developer's fault or Apple being obnoxious.

 

[kresh]

I think the most exciting thing is that if this app can emulate a USB cable over Wi-Fi then it is a short step to emulate it over the internet, and since it now a Cydia app it could use 3G even!

Just imagine, while on a boring trip VNC to your Mac at home, make a new playlist with songs not on your iPhone, them BAM sync over the internet!

 

[gpninja]

Reading this thread, I felt that I should register on these forums, because I have something to say.

A lot of people are really mad that Apple rejected this app. A lot of you are saying that you've "lost faith" in Apple as an innovator. And almost everybody seems to think that Apple is now stifling innovation.

The fact is, Apple has always, always, always provided roadblocks for customizing your products since longer than I have been alive. All of you know that Apple likes to control what kind of apps can get on the phone. And, like it or not, their strategy works for the average user. Having this kind of centralized database of approved programs makes people unafraid of viruses, trojans, or malware. And when the user wins, the developer wins too, because people will download more apps if they know its safe to do.

A necessary evil of this system is that certain functionality will necessarily be off-limits to developers. This is the price Apple is willing to pay. Everybody on this forum knew that Apple would reject this app before they did. Deal with it.

As for all you self-proclaimed "power users" who are weeping and predicting Apple's demise, realize this: nobody's stopping you from jailbreaking your phone, and nobody's stopping you from developing your own programs to run with Cydia. If you're too afraid to jailbreak, then perhaps you're not the power user you believe yourself to be. These days, jailbreaking is safe and easy. If you're willing to pop open the hood, you can modify the iPhone OS to precisely your needs. Take Apple's own advice, and think different--don't accept limitations, do something about them.

So, if you don't like what Apple's doing here, stop moaning and start jailbreaking.

 

[lilo777]

That's an extremely close-minded response. There's always a reason for something, whether you think it's good or not is subjective. You're not sure of anything, you're just deciding that Apple is screwing people. I'm open-minded enough to look at both sides. Either the developer's app is not meeting all the requirements or Apple has a plan of action for a feature like this with Mobileme. Either way I won't say it's the developer's fault or Apple being obnoxious.

That is all good but the end result is that Apple devices lack a valuable service available on competitor devices.

 

[HLdan]

That is all good but the end result is that Apple devices lack a valuable service available on competitor devices.

Hmm, that must be the reason why Apple's products are such huge sellers and are a big success and that must be the reason why Apple managed to ditch a recession and made a nice profit during the lowest economic times.

 

[macrazee]

I think the most exciting thing is that if this app can emulate a USB cable over Wi-Fi then it is a short step to emulate it over the internet, and since it now a Cydia app it could use 3G even!

Just imagine, while on a boring trip VNC to your Mac at home, make a new playlist with songs not on your iPhone, them BAM sync over the internet!

I thought of this as well. I'm sure the author will look to improve and expand his offerings over time.

 

[kultschar]

I come home from a business meeting. I only have a few minutes and need to go back out. I took down contact info during that meeting. The computer is upstairs, the USB cable is god knows where.

I hit sync on the phone as soon as it sees the wireless, the contact info is synced back and saved to my computer in case anything happens to the phone.

There is your dumb scenario. There are many other instances in which this is useful, you don't need particular scenarios.

And again, because JAT doesn't like it or see any pros, nobody should! JAT is always right, he's like a Steve Jr.

Get over yourself.

This is why I use Mobile Me.

All my contacts, bookmark, notes, calendars are synced wirelessly.

If these services become free then that's a great way to do this.

Wifi syncing songs and movies? I would rather not, takes donkeys on Apple TV let alone a battery powered device.

 

[HLdan]

This is why I use Mobile Me.

All my contacts, bookmark, notes, calendars are synced wirelessly.

If these services become free then that's a great way to do this.

Wifi syncing songs and movies? I would rather not, takes donkeys on Apple TV let alone a battery powered device.

Agreed, Mobileme is a much better way of handling wireless syncing. I make changes to my contacts and calendars daily and I don't have to be home or near my Mac to sync my iPod Touch and iPhone with my iMac. Now, MM being free would be great, but I would settle for a really nice low price as it's still too high right now, we're not gonna get it free. Ebay is a great place to get it half price.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Agreed, Mobileme is a much better way of handling wireless syncing. I make changes to my contacts and calendars daily and I don't have to be home or near my Mac to sync my iPod Touch and iPhone with my iMac. Now, MM being free would be great, but I would settle for a really nice low price as it's still too high right now, we're not gonna get it free. Ebay is a great place to get it half price.

MobileMe is also 80 bucks a year

BTW: I am a MobileMe subscriber.

 

[HLdan]

MobileMe is also 80 bucks a year

BTW: I am a MobileMe subscriber.

So am I, however $80/year isn't bad Mattie. It's only about $6/month plus some change. BTW I only paid $45 for MM on Ebay with a sealed box.

 

[KnightWRX]

Mobileme already handles that quite well and you don't have to be home near your computer for the sync to happen.

Why should I pay when I don't trust cloud services in the first place ? Wireless syncing to my home computer is fine.

Oh wait...

Seriously, suggesting MobileMe as a replacement for this app is ludicrous.

Apple is less and less about Thinking Different and more and more about vendor lock-in. They are really mishandling the whole iPhone OS thing in my view. OS X used to be about being open while retaining a very good single vendor experience and direction. They should go back to that.

 

[HLdan]

Why should I pay when I don't trust cloud services in the first place ? Wireless syncing to my home computer is fine.

Oh wait...

Seriously, suggesting MobileMe as a replacement for this app is ludicrous.

OS X used to be about being open while retaining a very good single vendor experience and direction. They should go back to that.

It's not ludicrous, that's your opinion. And secondly, you're already trusting cloud services when each time you surf the net buddy.
OS X used to be about being "open"? When was that? And what's different about it today?

 

[KnightWRX]

It's not ludicrous, that's your opinion. And secondly, you're already trusting cloud services when each time you surf the net buddy.

You aren't seriously claiming that. If Macrumors is down tomorrow, it has no impact on my life. I don't trust it for anything. Same of pretty much every website I visit.

You keep spouting out the ludicrous claims one after another. Maybe you should quit while you still have some credibility left, mr. Steve-for-an-avatar.

 

[RazHyena]

Not surprised at all.

But seriously, Cydia is the way to go. The Apple ecosystem has become too suffocating for practical use. Just be happy we're buying your hardware, Steve.

This is why I use Mobile Me.

All my contacts, bookmark, notes, calendars are synced wirelessly.

If these services become free then that's a great way to do this.

Wifi syncing songs and movies? I would rather not, takes donkeys on Apple TV let alone a battery powered device.

Yeah, if it actually worked...

 

[HLdan]

You keep spouting out the ludicrous claims one after another. Maybe you should quit while you still have some credibility left, mr. Steve-for-an-avatar.

Maybe you should take your own advice.

Interesting, you neglected to answer my question about your claim about OS X.

 

[KnightWRX]

Interesting, you neglected to answer my question about your claim about OS X.

OS X is not Apple's focus anymore. 10.6 was lukewarm at best. 10.7 is nowhere in sight. The Mac line is getting updates later and later. It's like it's become second class even though it's still their best revenue and profit generator.

It's all about iPhone OS now.

That's what I was implying. OS X is still as open as a closed source, single vendor Unix can be.

 

[Patcoola]

Everyone's missing the most simple concept here that almost every device warns you about.

"It is not recommend to sync over Wireless" [General Devices]
"It is not recommend to install applications over Wireless" [IPhone]
"It is not recommend to change settings over Wireless" [Wireless Router]

Wireless is slow and unreliable for many people.
Drop connections can create corrupted data.
Low or dead battery during wireless transfer can create data corruption.
Changing settings over wireless can lock you out.

 

[moynihan123]

Wireless syncing via MobileMe is a terrible idea.

Even if they implement iTunes libraries (yeah...expect MM prices to skyrocket in that case), it would be far too impractical given the size of many libraries, not to mention we are simply not at the point where libraries can be in a cloud...yet.

Everyone's missing the most simple concept here that almost every device warns you about.

"It is not recommend to sync over Wireless" [General Devices]
"It is not recommend to install applications over Wireless" [IPhone]
"It is not recommend to change settings over Wireless" [Wireless Router]

Wireless is slow and unreliable for many people.
Drop connections can create corrupted data.
Low or dead battery during wireless transfer can create data corruption.
Changing settings over wireless can lock you out.

There's so much fail in this post, I don't even know where to begin.

Wireless is not slow and not slow and unreliable for me and many other people. While I probably wouldn't do a full first time sync wirelessly, it's extremely useful for small, quick changes.

Dropped connections - backups can easily be managed (in fact, with this app they are) and in the event of a dropped connection, simply revert back to the pre-synced library file. In the event of low battery, it's quite simple...don't allow wireless syncs if the battery is at a certain point.

Changing settings over wireless can lock you out.

LOL - um.....let's see.....then either:
A. Fix the wireless settings and reconnect
B. Re-sync with a cable while your wireless is down. Duh?

 

[Patcoola]

not slow and not slow and unreliable for me and many other people.

That's where your so wrong, wifi g gets only about 2.8Megabytes per second with only one device/computer connected, with more connections even inactive the number drops. The advantage wifi g in most Canadian cities is about 800Kilobytes per second.

Bluetooth is the most common connection for mobile phones and gets about 200kilobytes per second.

Dropped connections - backups can easily be managed (in fact, with this app they are) and in the event of a dropped connection, simply revert back to the pre-synced library file.

Apple dosn't care about how good the app is at managing backups, you still break it at your own risk, a risk Apple sees no matter how small it is to be a big liability to Apple and a potential problem to thousands of users.

In the event of low battery, it's quite simple...don't allow wireless syncs if the battery is at a certain point.

That's what many device already are wronging about but people still fail to consider the power usage of wireless syncing and the duration.

LOL - um.....let's see.....then either:
A. Fix the wireless settings and reconnect
B. Re-sync with a cable while your wireless is down. Duh?

Exactly; thous you agree

And for the final word, just because you think you know better, you don't know the people around you very well at all. Don't underestimate the ignorance and stupidity of the general public. You my friend is a very small minority as of the rest of the people on this site.

 

[JoEw]

**** apple, put it on cydia.

 

[moynihan123]

That's where your so wrong, wifi g gets only about 2.8Megabytes per second with only one device/computer connected, with more connections even inactive the number drops. The advantage wifi g in most Canadian cities is about 800Kilobytes per second.

Wrong.

The speed (using the 54g peak number) is about 6 MB. I get about 4 on my router. That is *more than* sufficient to sync an iPhone. It takes me about 10 seconds using this app. With a wire, it takes about 6.

Bluetooth is the most common connection for mobile phones and gets about 200kilobytes per second.

Ok.....that is relevant to this thread....how?

Apple dosn't care about how good the app is at managing backups, you still break it at your own risk, a risk Apple sees no matter how small it is to be a big liability to Apple and a potential problem to thousands of users.

That's what many device already are wronging about but people still fail to consider the power usage of wireless syncing and the duration.

Exactly; thous you agree

Wrong again.

iTunes handles the actual syncing. What part of this very simple concept do you not understand? If you get disconnected from a wireless sync, it works the same way as if you unplug during a wired sync. Nothing happens. *facepalm*

And for the final word, just because you think you know better, you don't know the people around you very well at all. Don't underestimate the ignorance and stupidity of the general public. You my friend is a very small minority as of the rest of the people on this site.

I don't think I know better than you, I DO know better than you. Just because you don't know how to properly setup a wireless network, it doesn't mean everybody doesn't.

Clearly you have absolutely no idea what your talking about.

 

[Patcoola]

I don't think I know better than you, I DO know better than you. Just because you don't know how to properly setup a wireless network, it doesn't mean everybody doesn't.

Hey Im not saying I know more than you or vice versa, you completely took that out of context.

When you finally step out of your parents basement and enter the really world, start talking to people man, because you'll be surprise how many people with Iphones and computers don't know what Flash is.

 

[moynihan123]

Hey Im not saying I know more than you or vice versa, you completely took that out of context.

When you finally step out of your parents basement and enter the really world, start talking to people man, because you'll be surprise how many people with Iphones and computers don't know what Flash is.

Nice ad hominem there.

I'll be sure to let you know just as soon as you enter a first grade grammar class. You'd be surprised at how punctuation can actually not make you look like a complete buffoon.

 

[sactownbwoy]

Wireless syncing would be awesome. My winmo phone did it through bluetooth many years ago. It was so convenient, I would walk into my house and my phone would sync automatically with my pc.

For those of you that don't understand technology which appears to be many. The limiting factor in speed is not wireless speeds be it n or g. It is the cpu and hard drive/flash drive of the iphone.

Another thing, I keep my phone by my bedside and to be able to wirelessly sync would be awesome. Why is it such a hard concept for people to realize that the iphone doesn't have to be plugged into the computer to charge. You can plug it into the wall, like I do when it's by my bedside.

Features that smartphones have had for years the iphone lacks. Wireless sync is built into winmo phones. I don't even have to do anything. Some of the responses in this thread confirm the myth that people who buy Apple products will blindly follow/defend Apple no matter what.

 

[macsmurf]

Everyone's missing the most simple concept here that almost every device warns you about.

"It is not recommend to sync over Wireless" [General Devices]
"It is not recommend to install applications over Wireless" [IPhone]
"It is not recommend to change settings over Wireless" [Wireless Router]

Wireless is slow and unreliable for many people.
Drop connections can create corrupted data.
Low or dead battery during wireless transfer can create data corruption.
Changing settings over wireless can lock you out.

Three words: Wireless Time Capsule

Now go stand in the corner and think about what you've done