Wifi issues with Macbook Pro withVega Pro 20

[IdentityCrisis]

https://www.androidcentral.com/google-wifi-vs-eero-which-should-you-buy

Google Wifi wins.

Actually, no it doesn't. They didn't test the EERO Pro system.
[doublepost=1543188186][/doublepost]https://allpowermoves.com/best-mesh-router/

Plus, EERO was the original company to have a Mesh system for consumers and have the most experience doing it. They also have a channel dedicated for the back end to transfer between nodes so you get full dedicated speed between them. Only Orbi has that and EERO. No other company has that which is why Google Wifi doesn't get the speeds EERO does. Now this is only in EERO Pro system, not the regular system.

 

[MartinDLC13]

Actually, no it doesn't. They didn't test the EERO Pro system.
[doublepost=1543188186][/doublepost]https://allpowermoves.com/best-mesh-router/

Plus, EERO was the original company to have a Mesh system for consumers and have the most experience doing it. They also have a channel dedicated for the back end to transfer between nodes so you get full dedicated speed between them. Only Orbi has that and EERO. No other company has that which is why Google Wifi doesn't get the speeds EERO does. Now this is only in EERO Pro system, not the regular system.

Are you referring to this one:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-m...-2nd-generation-white/5873516.p?skuId=5873516

this alternative:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-m...-2nd-generation-white/5873516.p?skuId=5873516

or this pro with two nodes:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-p...i-system-2-pack-white/6229551.p?skuId=6229551

 

[IdentityCrisis]

Are you referring to this one:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-m...-2nd-generation-white/5873516.p?skuId=5873516

this alternative:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-m...-2nd-generation-white/5873516.p?skuId=5873516

or this pro with two nodes:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-p...i-system-2-pack-white/6229551.p?skuId=6229551

This one.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-p...-2nd-generation-white/5873518.p?skuId=5873518

Or the two nodes one you found would work too.

 

[Trebuin]

Are you referring to this one:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-m...-2nd-generation-white/5873516.p?skuId=5873516

this alternative:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-m...-2nd-generation-white/5873516.p?skuId=5873516

or this pro with two nodes:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-p...i-system-2-pack-white/6229551.p?skuId=6229551

I figure I'd give you a big tip regarding speeds. Most mesh have 2x2 antennas, which supports about 250mbps. You need at least 3x3.

 

[IdentityCrisis]

This one.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-p...-2nd-generation-white/5873518.p?skuId=5873518

I figure I'd give you a big tip regarding speeds. Most mesh have 2x2 antennas, which supports about 250mbps. You need at least 3x3.

Even so, it doesn't show the back channel antenna that most do not have where Orbi and EERO do.

 

[Trebuin]

Here's a depiction of how this works:

This is the EX8000 that I use. there are 4 orange lines depicting this as a 4x4 backhaul system. For all routers, it's a multiplier of 433MHz for AC, which is where they get the total. The second band only has 2x2 configuration. This picture depicts how I would configure the extender. For this router, I get around 750 direct connection with about 350 on actual use. If you're using a 2x2, you're looking at 250 or less on the backhaul alone.
[doublepost=1543192135][/doublepost]Orbi differes per model & apparently has stability issues. Both Google & Eero will be limited badly by the 2x2 configuration. The EX8000 is a linear extender & you can actually learn more about wifi by playing with that. IE, lowband & Highband 5GHz has different powers & thus degrades at different rates as you get further from main router. Your main router also plays a role...its needs a 4x4 to take full advantage of the backhaul setup for the EX8000.
[doublepost=1543192256][/doublepost]https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/33125-wi-fi-system-roundup

That is a bit older, but covers mesh & should give you an idea of how they are limited.
[doublepost=1543192367][/doublepost]

Location A would be the master router. You're interested in location B speeds.

 

[IdentityCrisis]

Here's a depiction of how this works:

This is the EX8000 that I use. there are 4 orange lines depicting this as a 4x4 backhaul system. For all routers, it's a multiplier of 433MHz for AC, which is where they get the total. The second band only has 2x2 configuration. This picture depicts how I would configure the extender. For this router, I get around 750 direct connection with about 350 on actual use. If you're using a 2x2, you're looking at 250 or less on the backhaul alone.
[doublepost=1543192135][/doublepost]Orbi differes per model & apparently has stability issues. Both Google & Eero will be limited badly by the 2x2 configuration. The EX8000 is a linear extender & you can actually learn more about wifi by playing with that. IE, lowband & Highband 5GHz has different powers & thus degrades at different rates as you get further from main router. Your main router also plays a role...its needs a 4x4 to take full advantage of the backhaul setup for the EX8000.
[doublepost=1543192256][/doublepost]https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/33125-wi-fi-system-roundup

That is a bit older, but covers mesh & should give you an idea of how they are limited.

Well, one router doesn't work in my environment because our house is too big and only a Mesh system can cover it. Plus I had Orbi, yes it had better speeds, but I wanted reliability instead of my routers going down every day or firmware bugs which they have been dealing with for 2 years.

[doublepost=1543192518][/doublepost]

Are you referring to this one:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-m...-2nd-generation-white/5873516.p?skuId=5873516

this alternative:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-m...-2nd-generation-white/5873516.p?skuId=5873516

or this pro with two nodes:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/eero-p...i-system-2-pack-white/6229551.p?skuId=6229551

Here are topics of EERO vs Google Wifi.

https://www.reddit.com/r/eero/comments/9858vq/is_eero_right_for_me/

https://www.reddit.com/r/eero/comments/8yo1g6/has_anyone_compared_the_eero_2nd_gen_to_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/eero/comments/8mucsc/switching_from_google_wifi_too_eero/

https://www.reddit.com/r/eero/comments/8h7kgt/thoughts_and_comments_from_a_prior_google_wifi/

 

[Trebuin]

The extender is better, & you could probably create your own mesh better than anyone else. The EX8000 is stable...I helped them hammer that out because it did have serious issues. If the Orbi is actually that bad, I might talk them into letting me help out with that one as well (& try the Orbi finally)

 

[IdentityCrisis]

The extender is better, & you could probably create your own mesh better than anyone else. The EX8000 is stable...I helped them hammer that out because it did have serious issues. If the Orbi is actually that bad, I might talk them into letting me help out with that one as well (& try the Orbi finally)

A regular WiFi extender is much worse than mesh. You get half the speed after that extender. I’m not familiar with the ex8000 so I will go look at that now.
[doublepost=1543197579][/doublepost]

The extender is better, & you could probably create your own mesh better than anyone else. The EX8000 is stable...I helped them hammer that out because it did have serious issues. If the Orbi is actually that bad, I might talk them into letting me help out with that one as well (& try the Orbi finally)

That ex8000 looks like a great thing. But after my orbi experience and other people’s experience with orbi, I’m afraid to even try that especially after having eero now that I never have to touch any of my devices to fix the WiFi any more. It definitely does act like a normal extender and works like the orbis or eeros with a mesh network with backhaul.

 

[Trebuin]

Modern extenders actually function the same as mesh. It was around 2013/2014 when Mesh really started to become something new. Extenders were redesigned to handle the two way flow much, much better. ASUS built that into their primary routers starting around the original RT-AC66U/R & Netgear in their extenders with one or two models before the EX8000. The only difference between extenders & mesh systems is that the Mesh is more locked down & designed to be an easy setup. The EX8000 is actually a copy of the Orbi hardware, but much more stable & user configurable.

 

[MartinDLC13]

Even so, it doesn't show the back channel antenna that most do not have where Orbi and EERO do.

Thank you for your recommendation, I got the Eero and the speeds have improved and they are consistent around 400 to 420, despite where I am in my home.
[doublepost=1543265220][/doublepost]

Modern extenders actually function the same as mesh. It was around 2013/2014 when Mesh really started to become something new. Extenders were redesigned to handle the two way flow much, much better. ASUS built that into their primary routers starting around the original RT-AC66U/R & Netgear in their extenders with one or two models before the EX8000. The only difference between extenders & mesh systems is that the Mesh is more locked down & designed to be an easy setup. The EX8000 is actually a copy of the Orbi hardware, but much more stable & user configurable.

I am also getting the EX8000 and will compare against the Eero. Since I have two months leeway to return them from Best Buy. I will post the speeds as to help others make a better choice, One thing I can say is that Eero's pro system is way better than the Lynksis Velop System

 

[IdentityCrisis]

Thank you for your recommendation, I got the Eero and the speeds have improved and they are consistent around 400 to 420, despite where I am in my home.
[doublepost=1543265220][/doublepost]
I am also getting the EX8000 and will compare against the Eero. Since I have two months leeway to return them from Best Buy. I will post the speeds as to help others make a better choice, One thing I can say is that Eero's pro system is way better than the Lynksis Velop System

Yea. You want reliability and good speeds that are consistent everywhere with great support. Even on reddit the ceo comes on there discussing stuff with everyone.

I like that I never have to touch my eero stuff after it’s setup. It just works. Also, you got the filtering in the plus. Which gets you free 1Password, vpn, and something else I included. Worth the price.

 

[SDColorado]

Also, you got the filtering in the plus. Which gets you free 1Password, vpn, and something else I included. Worth the price.

Malware Bytes is the other app that comes with Plus.

I wish it was LastPass rather than 1Password, but Encrypt.me VPN does a decent job for phone/computer and the Malwarebytes subscription is good.

 

[Trebuin]

I was looking at a few of the meshes, & several of them have a non-dedicated backhaul. There are multiple versions of the the Orbi, but the highest end one has the same hardware as the EX8000 & actually performs extremely well in tests. I can't attest to reliability on that, but I can on the ex8000. Both of them have a 4x4 backhaul, the Eero has a 2x2. That should give you over 500mbps, hopefully higher. Since I don't pay for anything higher than 300, I'd like to see actual performance with a gigabit rate. One of the other things I have done in the past was more of a predecessor to the modern linear system the EX8000 provides. That was using a router in repeater & accelerated mode (reduced the hard requirement for 50% speed drop) & lan connected it to another wifi router...yea, two routers at the same place. With newer repeaters, this is almost obsolete. Only exception, if you can find a high speed router that operates in acceleration mode still, then you can do the same thing with an accelerated backhaul. Usually, routers that say they have speeds up to 2500 or so down clock because the first connection isn't compatible...but if you bough the same device and it was capable of the same speed, your backhaul would crush. These routers don't retransmit wifi, hence the need for a third router. Add one more high speed & you have a wicked fast (& pricy) wifi repeater.

 

[IdentityCrisis]

Martin, what router do you plan to use with the ex8000 when you test it?