Keyboard + Mouse pwnz0rs every other controller for non-simulation gaming. Obviously, joysticks for flying, steering wheel and pedal for driving, and well that's about it.
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Keyboard + Mouse pwnz0rs every other controller for non-simulation gaming. Obviously, joysticks for flying, steering wheel and pedal for driving, and well that's about it.
When you said flame on, did you burst into flames? 
Yep, only the Source Engine, ID-Tech 5 engine, Unreal 3 Engine, and others like Gamebryo to name a few of many. Sounds like you're already in the same puddle.
I'm joking of course about the whole abandon your console thing, but there are a ton of games on the PC that are worth playing, that have yet to make it to a console.
Then there are games like StarCraft 2 --which should be great -- and Dota, which is freaking unbelievably great! Both of these games would be atrocious on a console.
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Yep, only the Source Engine, ID-Tech 5 engine, Unreal 3 Engine, and others like Gamebryo to name a few of many. Sounds like you're already in the same puddle.
I'm joking of course about the whole abandon your console thing, but there are a ton of games on the PC that are worth playing, that have yet to make it to a console.
Then there are games like StarCraft 2 --which should be great -- and Dota, which is freaking unbelievably great! Both of these games would be atrocious on a console.
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When you said flame on, did you burst into flames?
Good call +1
e²Studios put forth a very good point about upgrading consoles vs upgrading PC's
LETS GET BACK ON TOPIC THOUGH!!!! WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WII VS PS3 COME ON PEOPLE
That's funny, you don't upgrade consoles but in 4-5 years you are stuck with outdated games with crummy graphics and running at 1280x720 which is barely a step-up from 1024x768 just dying for the next gen to start.
On a PC you can upgrade on a 2 year basis and get the best graphics there are no "next-gen" the platform is constantly evolving, it's pretty great, $1000 can get you a great PC with a nice 1680x1050 monitor, if you spend $400-$500 more in the span of 4 years you can keep your games on the fullest settings. That's a total investment of $1400-$1500 including a 1680x1050 monitor and that's could even be lowered.
A console costs about $250-$400 but games cost more ($10 more for new releases), go down in price at a lesser rate, have expensive accesories, in the case of the 360 an online subscription ($50 a year for 4-5 years, $200-$250) and a nice HDTV which should run you maybe $1000 and still only runs games at 1280x720 (it will have 1080p probably but no console can render graphics at such a high res except for a bunch of games). We are looking at more than $1400-$1500, sure you don't NEED an HDTV, but then again you barely need a $400-500 PC to run even the latest games at standard definition TV's resolution.
PCs are everything but I won't take the price argument anymore, you can say they are hard to use, hard to build, don't have as many good games, have buggy games, require you to keep yourself informed or whatever but they are not overpriced as a gaming platform and any console gamer out there can afford a gaming PC, they just don't know it.
BTW I'm not saying you have to like to PC gaming and have to switch right away, I'm just saying, if price is going to be an argument not to get a gaming PC then you might as well just shut up.
Not so much, I bought it a couple days ago and finished everything in 2 days... It's one of those games with no depth to the game play.
Yea, but don't lie. I got mine a day before the UK launch (25th June IIRC), I play it religiously for 3-4 hours per day and I've only just unlocked all levels and god knows how many challenges I've got to beat. And of course 100% on Subspace, unlocking all target smash levels, unlocking all songs, getting at least all the fighters classic and smash trophies.
Some people seem to think that getting all the characters means they've beaten the game. It's also more obvious you haven't beaten the game when you say there's no depth to the gameplay.
There is so much depth, so much to unlock, so many modes that it isn't funny.
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I'm with Chone on PC's and there's nothing wrong with owning BOTH a Wii and PS3, so I resent the segregation that this thread promotes. :]
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^exactly, we've done this topic to death and the horse as already rotted. There is no reason why a person can't own both.....PS3 and wii appeal to their target audience.
Lets not go through this VS thing again.
Note: I was joking about the PC thing
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Lets not go through this VS thing again.
Note: I was joking about the PC thing
Bless
HAHAHAHA, to quote a great gamer "I you beat a dead horse the constant twitching seems to give some signs of life and encouragement" (or something like that)
This is like religion guys, no matter who argues or fights for what the subtle differences will always screw you
But thats not depth! That's repetitive button mashing, there is only so much depth a game can have with 2 button controls. And after awhile it all blends together as more of the same anyways.
Again, it sounds like you're either not a good Smash Bros player or that you haven't played it on the higher difficulties or against good players. Attack, special attack, grab and shield hardly counts as 2 buttons, especially when the type of attack is then determined by which direction you're pressing too.
Surprises me how it's people who don't play Brawl much who say it's just a button basher. Try playing like that against a pro. Be sure to save the replay and upload it to Youtube.
I only played the older versions of Smash a couple times, and didn't know what I was doing. It was definitely a button basher game for me. No clue what was happening.
I bought Brawl mainly because my friends were going to have it and wanted to play online. I knew I would get beat down, but thought it might at least be fun with online play. I have learned that it is *not* a button basher game. At all. Tons of moves, tons of strategy, and then you start throwing in levels that affect your play and crazy items, there's a lot going on! I'm loving it now, though I would probably be considered a medium-low skilled player.
I can see how some people would think of it as a button basher, and why those people would not like it (I didn't when that's all I knew!). I think if they took some time to learn - really learn and not just play vs. 3 computers and hit buttons - then I think they would like it more.
Sorry... are you suggesting that the amount of buttons a game utilizes has a direct effect on the depth of a game!?
So why not a 360? You save money(which you can then spend on Live...) and MANY of the exclusive games that the PS3 had, Sony lost to the 360. The big ones that come to mind are GTA and FF XIII. I am very happy with my 360 and I have tried playing on a friend's PS3. I played GTA on his and it looked better than on my 360 but he was playing his PS3 on an $800 LCD monitor while my 360 isn't hooked up to one. Although the Cell processor is more powerful than the hardware the 360 uses, I haven't seen a huge difference for the few hundred more you spend on a PS3 vs a 360. You could always give you money to Sony because they really need it right now because no one is buying their system...
First GTA IV is on both consoles, Second FF XIII is also on both consoles we haven't lost a thing you just gained one more (In my opinion) crap game.
Get the Wii get fit.
In my fanboyish opinion, you should go for the Wii. Mario Kart, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, and Mario Galaxy are some of my favorite games evah!
Yeah, I admit that I'm very happy with my Wii so that skews my opinion (though I think the PS3 and XBox360 both have good games!), but I think you should go with the Wii. I've got 19 games, 1 of them I'm not a big fan of (admittedly I haven't given it much of a chance), a couple more I would say are "decent", and then all the others I love. I literally can't keep up with how many games there are that I want to play. About half my games aren't "finished" yet because other great ones keep coming out that I want to play. I still to this day enjoy playing every game I have for the Wii (with 1 or 2 exceptions), and am trying to go back and "finish" them all.
Oh I had to give up 100%ing Mario Kart, Galaxy and even playing far into Prime because of Brawl.
But going back to what you said earlier - I now find Melee to be more of a button basher than Brawl. The slower speed, lighter aerial physics and more strategic items in Brawl add reems to the depth and possibility of more gameplay techniques. I find removing items from Brawl for a good 1v1 fight is much more fun than the same in Melee.
Also the way in which Brawl does "achievements" is the best yet. It's not just like the Xbox where the achievement is the reward, unlocking the challenges in Brawl in turn give you rewards back (new songs, levels, trophies etc). More games need this. Even Valve are doing it with the TF2 unlockable weapons tied to unlocking a certain number of achievements per update.
But going back to what you said earlier - I now find Melee to be more of a button basher than Brawl. The slower speed, lighter aerial physics and more strategic items in Brawl add reems to the depth and possibility of more gameplay techniques. I find removing items from Brawl for a good 1v1 fight is much more fun than the same in Melee.
Also the way in which Brawl does "achievements" is the best yet. It's not just like the Xbox where the achievement is the reward, unlocking the challenges in Brawl in turn give you rewards back (new songs, levels, trophies etc). More games need this. Even Valve are doing it with the TF2 unlockable weapons tied to unlocking a certain number of achievements per update.
^exactly, we've done this topic to death and the horse as already rotted. There is no reason why a person can't own both.....PS3 and wii appeal to their target audience.
Lets not go through this VS thing again.
Note: I was joking about the PC thing
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YOU CAN'T LIKE BOTH!!! DIDN'T YOU GET THE MEMO!!>>!11/!?!>??! PICK YOUR SIDE!1!
PS3, a real console none of this moving about crap thats what we have real sports for, they are much better in real life
thats what we have real sports for, they are much better in real life
... And now I'm done arguing about brawl because i just got owned.
OK GUYS HERE IT COMES! THE MORAL OF THE STORY!!!!
PICK THE CONSOLE THAT YOU FEEL SUITS YOUR NEEDS! NOT THE NEEDS OF THOSE AROUND YOU
WOOHOO NO MORE FANBOY ARGUMENTS... ya right...
OK GUYS HERE IT COMES! THE MORAL OF THE STORY!!!!
PICK THE CONSOLE THAT YOU FEEL SUITS YOUR NEEDS! NOT THE NEEDS OF THOSE AROUND YOU
WOOHOO NO MORE FANBOY ARGUMENTS... ya right...
Yeah, I think everyone already knew that this was Step 2.
Step 1 is get a Wii
I kid! I kid!