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So, the current iPad is THE BEST Apple can make?
So you are stating now as a fact, Apple are, today unable to fit a flash unit into the back of an iPad, which, by any definition would make it better than not having one.
This is, you are saying beyond Apple's ability as of today, and an iPad without a Flash is the best they can manage. yes?

By all means use another term, but BEST is meaningless.

You can use the term BETTER, that is a good and correct term, todays iPad is technically better than the last iPad.
However, also the current iPad is weaker and less strong than the 1st iPad, so iPad1 could be considered the BEST for strength, and iPad Air 2 is not the best in that aspect.

Apple have their reasons for not including a flash on the backside of the iPad. Maybe they don't want everyone taking out their iPads, walking around and holding them up snapping pictures all the time, but who knows. I could only say that wouldn't be the best device to take pictures with because of its size alone, the situation would not be ideal.

But wait you just said this "You can use the term BETTER, that is a good and correct term, todays iPad is technically better than the last iPad.
However, also the current iPad is weaker and less strong than the 1st iPad, so iPad1 could be considered the BEST for strength, and iPad Air 2 is not the best in that aspect."
So then you retracted your previous statements in your earlier posts saying there isn't any best and that is an artificial term, by saying the iPad one can be considered the best for strength?

You might be the only person on this planet who would argue that aluminum isn't the best material for an aircraft either. Well maybe we should make it with paper then. Your analogy is flawed, you're statements are contradicting, you are confused and you are trolling. So I will say again you should stop if you don't want to continue looking foolish.
 
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So I will say again you should stop if you don't want to continue looking foolish.

Sorry, but you are the foolish one, for not understanding "Best"

Aluminium is the best material for a plane?
What sort of plane? a glider, a human powered plane?

Note: We are not speaking of a material here, you can have the best material for a precise given task, however when it comes to a collection of parts to create a general purpose device then the term best becomes meaningless, as it's just does this product meet your list of requirement.
Perhaps Titanium would be best for the shell, but it's too expensive and harder to machine so they don't use it.

Apple making $200 profit could be their goal, so making that amount of profit would be best for them, not the best product.
Sorry, you need to use a different term as best only means meeting the goal you placed for yourself.

I can say I want to create a car for $100 and I do, it's the best car I can make for $100, and I have reached my goal in doing so, but it does not mean it's the best car I can make.

Perhaps that is where you are getting so confused.
 
Sorry, but you are the foolish one, for not understanding "Best"

Aluminium is the best material for a plane?
What sort of plane? a glider, a human powered plane?

Note: We are not speaking of a material here, you can have the best material for a precise given task, however when it comes to a collection of parts to create a general purpose device then the term best becomes meaningless, as it's just does this product meet your list of requirement.
Perhaps Titanium would be best for the shell, but it's too expensive and harder to machine so they don't use it.

Apple making $200 profit could be their goal, so making that amount of profit would be best for them, not the best product.
Sorry, you need to use a different term as best only means meeting the goal you placed for yourself.

I can say I want to create a car for $100 and I do, it's the best car I can make for $100, and I have reached my goal in doing so, but it does not mean it's the best car I can make.

Perhaps that is where you are getting so confused.

I'm speaking of the word best. You wanted to start an argument about how the word best is meaningless and that there is no such thing as best. You even said it is an artificial term. Now according you there can be best in materials for a given task but not a product?

Using your analogy all these years many companies who've been using the best materials and technology put together to make what they thought was the best product they could make at the time have been so wrong. Because you can't make the best product you know how to even if you use the best materials, because there just can't be a best product. You contradict yourself over and over again talking this filth. Now see you words below as I have quoted it so you can read it again to see if it makes more or less sense to you.

"We are not speaking of a material here, you can have the best material for a precise given task, however when it comes to a collection of parts to create a general purpose device then the term best becomes meaningless, as it's just does this product meet your list of requirement."
 
..if you don't like the iPad or the apps then use something you actually like so you don't sound so miserable and come here to trash talk Apple products.

I disagree with you so I wish to silence you. The totalitarian impulse
 
No I don't think so, today Apple have once again commented on this with the following

"While Microsoft and others now believe that multi-touch should extend to the desktop display, Apple believes this is dead wrong. “From the ergonomic standpoint we have studied this pretty extensively and we believe that on a desktop scenario where you have a fixed keyboard, having to reach up to do touch interfaces is uncomfortable,” says Schiller. “iOS from its start has been designed as a multi-touch experience — you don’t have the things you have in a mouse-driven interface, like a cursor to move around, or teeny little ‘close’ boxes that you can’t hit with your finger. The Mac OS has been designed from day one for an indirect pointing mechanism. These two worlds are different on purpose, and that’s a good thing — we can optimize around the best experience for each and not try to mesh them together into a least-common-denominator experience.”

https://medium.com/backchannel/excl...ill-sweating-the-details-on-imac-531a95e50c91

I don't think Apple will be entering into the surface type market at least for a while.
That Macs can't be used with multi touch or any other on screen interface is a paradigm. With a nice VESA mount you can adjust the angle and orientation of a 27" iMac to place it in any ergonomic way you want it to be.
They can add the same tech they are using now for the iPad Pro to pair it with :apple: Pencil and any other ForceTouch 3D whatever magic name they want to use. Just repeating what a marketing guy at apple wants to sell isn't what many of us want to have.

The Surface has its own set of issue I guess Apple maybe be able to better solve. The last set of Surface Pros I check at a local Best Buy seem to be a grilling burning box needing all the vent ports all around therefore not looking comfortable to handle like a tablet.
 
I'm speaking of the word best. You wanted to start an argument about how the word best is meaningless and that there is no such thing as best. You even said it is an artificial term. Now according you there can be best in materials for a given task but not a product?

The problem with the term Best is that then you are saying, given everything you know and can do, you cannot do any better, you have run the mile in 2.5 minutes, and that is trying your best, it's the best time you are ever going to do as you are at the very peak of your age/fitness, you cannot beat it, it's your best.

If you say Apple makes the best tablet it can with todays iPad, then you are saying, that is that.
Apple, given all it's resources and willpower in the world, could not make a better iPad.
We know this is simply not the case. As by the time any Apple product launches, they are probably well into the design phase of a better one, and even at time of launch, Apple could make any of it's products better.
So they are never the best they can make.

Likewise, Apple set a price point and a profit margin, so they are working within self imposed artificial constraints, so again the "Product" is not the best they can make.
 
So, Apple shows off how powerful the ipad pro is with a video editing demo and then fails to provide a pointer device or access to off board storage to do video editing? This product, and ios, really needs some further evolution.

hmm, fails to provide a pointer device? Let's see.. There's your finger, about any capacitive stylus out there, and umm, wait for it..

THE FRACKING APPLE PENCIL?
 
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How many years have iPads been out? How many years have tablets been out? Apple currently makes the best tablets to date. How many years people like you have been saying the same thing over and over again that with each new iPad it's just the same as the previous one? The sales numbers year after year speaks for it self! The iPad has powerful yet simple to use apps and if you don't like the iPad or the apps then use something you actually like so you don't sound so miserable and come here to trash talk Apple products.
I disagree with you so I wish to silence you. The totalitarian impulse

It would be helpful if you quote my entire post and actually state what you disagree with. Or maybe you're just trolling.
I disagree with you telling posters that if they don't like the ipad pro then use something else and dont post here
 
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I like the progress but it really needs to run a real operating system file file management. I was hope the new MacBook released last spring would be a good upgrade from my MBA, but it was a step back in processor/memory in favor of slim design, fancy keyboard and longer battery life. The new Surface pro looks like the best game in town...except for the Apple pen...and that's coming shortly. I want an iPad that has force touch, can run OSX (be nice if it could make phone calls) and will allow me to upgrade and replace two devices (laptop and tablet) with one. Apple just wants me to buy two devices and they won't make the jump...I can't see any other reason.
 
No I don't think so, today Apple have once again commented on this with the following

"While Microsoft and others now believe that multi-touch should extend to the desktop display, Apple believes this is dead wrong. “From the ergonomic standpoint we have studied this pretty extensively and we believe that on a desktop scenario where you have a fixed keyboard, having to reach up to do touch interfaces is uncomfortable,” says Schiller. “iOS from its start has been designed as a multi-touch experience — you don’t have the things you have in a mouse-driven interface, like a cursor to move around, or teeny little ‘close’ boxes that you can’t hit with your finger. The Mac OS has been designed from day one for an indirect pointing mechanism. These two worlds are different on purpose, and that’s a good thing — we can optimize around the best experience for each and not try to mesh them together into a least-common-denominator experience. .

While the analysis is correct, the perspective is wrong...at least for me. I don't want a desktop has tablet capabilities like a touchscreen, I want a tablet that has desktop capabilities like the ability to run a real operating system a file management etc.
I think the real motivation for Apple as they just make too much money off of selling me two devices instead of one. I must say it's difficult to remain in the Apple family when you feel like they're not advancing technology or customer needs for the sake of a dollar.
 
I am biased to Apple products; however, the Surface Book makes me frustrated at Apple. Something Microsoft did first in this department is made the tablet and laptop one, down to every detail, and kept it stylish and functional at the same time. Does anyone think Apple will ever get around to doing this? I dislike the Windows OS, so no Surface Book for me. But the design looks amazing. This is something Apple should've done a long time ago. I'm talking about a fully functional, touchscreen Macbook on OS X with a detachable screen that becomes an "iPad" while still running on OS X.
Any idea why this product has not yet been made and do you think we'll see it sometime in the future?
I honestly really want the hybrid. That would be amazing
 
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A few of us have been beating that drum. Glad to see another "convert". :D I still contend that for some/many, adding pointing device support would go a long way toward moving the iPad closer to that point of convergence... certainly more than a magic crayon or pencil.

I like it! Definitely faster and practical one the screen is used primarily for display. Perhaps your phone could be used as a trackpad. I really want to consolidate my devices...love the iPad for videos/reading/games/music at parties. Smart phone/watch for quick access and portability. The laptop is only needed to process my email and photos fast because it has better input devices (and file management). Right now I'm typing this with one finger on my iPad...that's just wrong!
 
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it would be SO great to have macbook 12" which you can fold back and use it as tablet...

I like Apple stuff and I love my Surface Pro 3 (though I have to fight Windows...) though I don't see the rest of my family or friends using the surface.

Anyway, I don't see Apple making a 2-1 device, losing their precious money from computers and tablets...

They are making money! and they are the best company on the world doing that. ;)
 
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Technically it's possible but it's more profitable for Apple to sell you two products instead of an all-in-one.
 
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