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they will change the way the financing is done to include more people thus adding to Americas credit debt level (which is just adding fuel to the economic turndown fire). Maybe they will up their trade in values on the items they take in trade.

Not sure how much more they can do - you can already do either single-time purchase at 0%, or the annual upgrade program at 0%. And Citizens seems to approve any adult who's breathing. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm not sure how much room Apple has to expand their financing incentives.
 
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Just stopped at my local Best Buy talked to an Apple employee, asked if they were going to drop their iPad Pro prices as Apple was not selling them or the new X iPhones because of their higher prices.
He said no Apple was holding firm, i said i have the older 10.5 that is working very good also i can walk across to the Samsung tablets in this store and buy the Samsung Tab4 for just $650 it's a powerful tablet with a micro memory slot.
He just said nothing i did not expect him to say anything he can't himself change Apples pricing.
Anyway we will wait and see what Apple will do when their stock keeps falling and if China won't buy they will have to do something and do it quick.
 
Well, let's hypothetically say, Apple does nothing, and lets then speculate Apple retains cost of iPhone Xi the same, do you really think this is going to help generate revenue. Apple has to make changes and I really think something will change this September 2019. Let's discuss then....
Will be interesting to see what the cellphone networks do due to lower iPhone demand...
 
Will be interesting to see what the cellphone networks do due to lower iPhone demand...
There is a great demand for the older iPhone8Plus Bestbuy is asking $680 and $700 and $550 for Pre Owned meaning someones trade in and most stores don't have any in their store.
 
As stated prior, I see the trade-in incentives increasing ... this 1. Gets the new phone out the door, and 2. Gets the old/er phone off the street.

And this is exactly what I think Apple is going to execute. They want to drive the customer into the store, provide more services, at the same time, when the customers in the store Seeking to upgrade their phone, they have the option of shopping other accessories and products as well. It’s aol rudimentary business 101. I just want Apple to be more responsive towards the consumer in terms of where the iPhone pricing should reflect the economy, which right now, is facing saturation.
 
Not sure how much more they can do - you can already do either single-time purchase at 0%, or the annual upgrade program at 0%. And Citizens seems to approve any adult who's breathing. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm not sure how much room Apple has to expand their financing incentives.
interesting I wasn't aware that most people get approved. I thought that it was a select few that get the 0%
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Just stopped at my local Best Buy talked to an Apple employee, asked if they were going to drop their iPad Pro prices as Apple was not selling them or the new X iPhones because of their higher prices.
He said no Apple was holding firm, i said i have the older 10.5 that is working very good also i can walk across to the Samsung tablets in this store and buy the Samsung Tab4 for just $650 it's a powerful tablet with a micro memory slot.
He just said nothing i did not expect him to say anything he can't himself change Apples pricing.
Anyway we will wait and see what Apple will do when their stock keeps falling and if China won't buy they will have to do something and do it quick.
Apples hands are tied. I think that they will just ride this out until Trump is out of office. Apple can always gain on the share price but building iPhones in the US is going to cost them a TON. As referenced today The President is holding firm. They will make a few hundred billion in the next 8 quarters anyway without really doing much of anything. The core base is still buying maybe slower but you will not get the many iphone users to just switch to another brand.
 
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I think manufacturers and carriers will start to offer 36 and 48 month financing options and increase prices even more.
 
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Apple will do as little as possible to change their way of doing business. Everyone near the top has already made tons of money. Why take risks ?

The top dogs will peddle this dying machine to the money market boys while it still shines. And yes, imo, it will end like Sears.
 
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I think manufacturers and carriers will start to offer 36 and 48 month financing options and increase prices even more.

That's an intriguing idea - it would imply that the phone has a valuable lifetime of 3-4 years or more, which is not the current sales model! ALL of the phone manufacturers want us to believe that we really should be upgrading every year, or at least every second year. The AUP shows that pretty clearly - you are entitled to upgrade your phone after 12 months, and it's financed over 24 months. I think those two periods say a lot about what Apple thinks and expects. I do think we're going to see consumers choosing longer upgrade intervals (longer than 12-24 months), but that will cause a lot of painful adjustment for the phone makers, I think.
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interesting I wasn't aware that most people get approved. I thought that it was a select few that get the 0%
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Apples hands are tied. I think that they will just ride this out until Trump is out of office. Apple can always gain on the share price but building iPhones in the US is going to cost them a TON. As referenced today The President is holding firm. They will make a few hundred billion in the next 8 quarters anyway without really doing much of anything. The core base is still buying maybe slower but you will not get the many iphone users to just switch to another brand.

Re: building in the US, it's not even clear that the US has a labor force that is able to do what's necessary to assemble things like iPhones, at least not at a price anyone could afford (as you say). When Apple tried to build computers in the US (in the last century), it was apparently a disaster, and things are probably less favorable today: Apple Computers Used to Be Built in the U.S. It Was a Mess. - The ...https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/15/.../apple-california-manufacturing-history.html
 
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Now that Apple has reported it's iPhone sales has slumped and letter of concern to investors over dip in stock, what do you think they are going to do about it? They may be forced to lower cost of current and future Phones to generate the revenue they've been accustom to.
No way!
 
As stated prior, I see the trade-in incentives increasing ... this 1. Gets the new phone out the door, and 2. Gets the old/er phone off the street.
If the trade-in can be refurbished to their standards, I’m sure they’d profit from selling it again. That’s another device in circulation to sell apps and services on and keeping it on the streets fits with their environmental initiatives too. The refurbished site recently got a new coat of paint but I think we’ll see more effort from Apple with refurb sales as a way to hit lower price points in the near term (would go hand in hand with the increased focus on advertising trade in options per Timmy to boost their supply).
 
Apple will do as little as possible to change their way of doing business..

I would say this incorrect. And yet, Tim Cook just explicitly stated in an interview that Apple is seeking alternatives to “Boosting future sales through trade-in program marketing, monthly pricing options, and more focus on in-store services.”

It appears to me ‘the way they do business’, is in fact, going to change based of the CEO’s response. Apple _has_ to respond to the economic conditions.
 
Do Microsoft still make mobiles even

He wasn't talking about mobiles. He was talking about hardware manufacturers. IBM never made mobiles, either. Microsoft came back from a deep pit and is making some of the best hardware around today.
 
That's an intriguing idea - it would imply that the phone has a valuable lifetime of 3-4 years or more, which is not the current sales model! ALL of the phone manufacturers want us to believe that we really should be upgrading every year, or at least every second year. The AUP shows that pretty clearly - you are entitled to upgrade your phone after 12 months, and it's financed over 24 months. I think those two periods say a lot about what Apple thinks and expects. I do think we're going to see consumers choosing longer upgrade intervals (longer than 12-24 months), but that will cause a lot of painful adjustment for the phone makers, I think.
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Re: building in the US, it's not even clear that the US has a labor force that is able to do what's necessary to assemble things like iPhones, at least not at a price anyone could afford (as you say). When Apple tried to build computers in the US (in the last century), it was apparently a disaster, and things are probably less favorable today: Apple Computers Used to Be Built in the U.S. It Was a Mess. - The ...https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/15/.../apple-california-manufacturing-history.html
That is why I’m saying Apple will probably just keep on trying to do what they are doing (even though it’ll cost in the share price) until the next administration comes in hopes they can get help on the China front.
 
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Will be interesting to see what the cellphone networks do due to lower iPhone demand...
This is exactly what I am wondering. Knowing that sales and demand are low, rhetorically, what will Apple and Cell networks do to generate sales? Lower sales due to the $1000 price tag will be the new normal for Apple.
 
what will Apple and Cell networks do to generate sales?.

Cook already answered this question moving forward:

Cook says Apple will focus "really deeply" on things it can control, boosting future sales through trade-in program marketing, monthly pricing options, and more focus on in-store services such as data transfer. “
 
Apple/Apple Store, never. Your carrier/Apple authorized retailer will though. But if you're asking you've likely missed it or don't know how to get into one...
 
Apple will do as little as possible to change their way of doing business. Everyone near the top has already made tons of money. Why take risks ?

The top dogs will peddle this dying machine to the money market boys while it still shines. And yes, imo, it will end like Sears.

Highly doubt Apple will end like Sears, but it makes a good read.
 
This is exactly what I am wondering. Knowing that sales and demand are low, rhetorically, what will Apple and Cell networks do to generate sales? Lower sales due to the $1000 price tag will be the new normal for Apple.
I think the Cell Networks will watch the next couple of quarter reports very carefully, if this continues they will be harder in negotiating with Apple, particularly in places where they still do subsidies outside the USA.
 
I think the Cell Networks will watch the next couple of quarter reports very carefully, if this continues they will be harder in negotiating with Apple, particularly in places where they still do subsidies outside the USA.
If Apple does nothing, nothing will change in the 2nd and 3rd quarter. According to reports, Apple is just going to decrease manufacturing due to low demand.
 
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