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I can't believe they didn't update the Macbook for the WWDC. At least a spec bump! I'm pretty disappointed. :(
I understand they didn't want to take attention away from the new Mac Pro, but it would have been a nice thing to unveil the professionals-only uber-expensive studio-designed Mac Pro and at the same time the cheapest ultramobile for-everybody Macbook... Both the ends of the spectrum.

I'll be honest, when something doesn't get updates for two years AND important updates like a third gen keyboard, it mean that the company has lost interest in the product.
Maybe, we'll see a redesign next year with ARM alongside a new MacBook Pro BUT that then leaves the McBook Air looking out of place and old in its design. I don't believe that the future looks too good for the 12" this year ;'(
 
I'll be honest, when something doesn't get updates for two years AND important updates like a third gen keyboard, it mean that the company has lost interest in the product.
Maybe, we'll see a redesign next year with ARM alongside a new MacBook Pro BUT that then leaves the McBook Air looking out of place and old in its design. I don't believe that the future looks too good for the 12" this year ;'(

They are waiting for Intel. It's like waiting fo Godet though. But Godet never arrives, whereas Intel is only late 5 years.

Only 5 years! Not so bad. :(
 
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Intel announced the cou for the macbook,apple also filled 7 new macs so, probably in July update is coming
 
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Hmmm... The chipset's Thunderbolt 3 implementation is not 100% complete.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/28/...cessor-laptop-launch-thunderbolt-3-sunny-cove

Even though Ice Lake’s 10nm CPU and 14nm PCH companion chip (yes, it’s not all 10nm) mean that manufacturers no longer need to buy and find space to integrate a Thunderbolt 3 controller or a full Wi-Fi module onto their laptop or desktop motherboards, there are still additional components they’ll need to source from Intel to make it work.

In the case of Thunderbolt 3, they’ll need to buy and integrate retimers chips from Intel


Nonetheless, it seems like the TB3 support is close enough that there is a strong chance Apple will include Thunderbolt 3 support in the new quad-core Ice Lake Y MacBooks. Yes, I think the MacBooks will remain Intel for this generation, and will get updated within 6-9 months. In other words, I think it will be about 2.5 years from the release of my 2017 MacBook before the new Intel MacBook lands. I am glad I didn't wait.
 
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Yes, I think the MacBooks will remain Intel for this generation, and will get updated within 6-9 months. In other words, I think it will be about 2.5 years from the release of my 2017 MacBook before the new Intel MacBook lands. I am glad I didn't wait.

I am glad I got my MB 12 2017 as well, was a real upgrade from 2015. I got it for $799 and will hand it down or resell for a good price. I believe new MB will come October or earlier and now I can wait for a good price to order it, possibly on Black Friday.
 
I am glad I got my MB 12 2017 as well, was a real upgrade from 2015. I got it for $799 and will hand it down or resell for a good price. I believe new MB will come October or earlier and now I can wait for a good price to order it, possibly on Black Friday.
It's unlikely there will be any new MacBooks by October, unless Apple gets the chips early, or is using some custom form of Intel's chips, or else Apple decides to not use Intel chips at all.
 
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Isn’t the MacBook 12 the likely contender to eventually move to Apple’s own ARM based chips since they run fanless and allow for a thin and light profile as well as insane battery life. Toss in LTE like the iPads and you have an always connected device to compete against Windows always connected PC’s. If iOS 13 were to add mouse support could we see an ARM based touch screen iOSBook running iOS with ports of some MacOS applications to follow? It would certainly solve the problem of productivity Apps on iPad with no mouse support. It would also fit with the vision of converging OS’s and moving to ARM. I may be just dreaming but Apple under Jobs always seemed to wow us. The iPad Pro already have storage surpassing the MacBook 12. If they are going to move off Intel the MacBook 12 seems like the most appropriate Mac to do it with.

I agree with the MacBook getting an ARM soc/CPU.
I don’ t agree with it getting a touchscreen and IOS. It will get an ARM based MacOs, without touch and just keyboard and trackpad/mouse support, no Apple Pencil, etc.
It will be the first Mac to get an ARM soc and will be the front runner to more macs with ARM cpu’ s.
Apple will never merge Mac(OS) with IOS, they have already been clear about that.

First ARM MacBooks won’t have Promotion or Faceid either. They want to keep costs down and make it a $999 MacBook for a 128gb version.
So the shell of a MacBook 12 inch with the same display, and maybe, but a big maybe .... adding touchid and a second usb-c , but with an ARM soc, and MacOs . That will be it.

Without promotion, pencil support, touchscreen, faceid, back camera and intel cpu, ssd and using a (modified?) iPad Pro motherboard , etc apple should be able to keep cost down compared to either an $999 iPad Pro or the MacBook. So I have high hopes for a $999 base model of a MacBook.

The only thing apple has to improve over the a12x in the iPad pro, that is already a great soc, is ram. Perhaps they can use the 6gb variant of the 1TB iPad pro’ s , but I hope they can make a 8gb version.(a12m or a13m?)
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Apple owns the trademark to 'iBook'. Prune out the "OS" out of iOSBook and ta-da. A name they already own.

I think the iBook name is destined for a foldable I device.

But could be an iBook, who knows. But PowerBook name is also still available.
 
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I agree with the MacBook getting an ARM soc/CPU.
I don’ t agree with it getting a touchscreen and IOS. It will get an ARM based MacOs, without touch and just keyboard and trackpad/mouse support, no Apple Pencil, etc.
It will be the first Mac to get an ARM soc and will be the front runner to more macs with ARM cpu’ s.
Apple will never merge Mac(OS) with IOS, they have already been clear about that.

First ARM MacBooks won’t have Promotion or Faceid either. They want to keep costs down and make it a $999 MacBook for a 128gb version.
So the shell of a MacBook 12 inch with the same display, and maybe, but a big maybe .... adding touchid and a second usb-c , but with an ARM soc, and MacOs . That will be it.

Without promotion, pencil support, touchscreen, faceid, back camera and intel cpu, ssd and using a (modified?) iPad Pro motherboard , etc apple should be able to keep cost down compared to either an $999 iPad Pro or the MacBook. So I have high hopes for a $999 base model of a MacBook.

The only thing apple has to improve over the a12x in the iPad pro, that is already a great soc, is ram. Perhaps they can use the 6gb variant of the 1TB iPad pro’ s , but I hope they can make a 8gb version.(a12m or a13m?)
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I think the iBook name is destined for a foldable I device.

But could be an iBook, who knows. But PowerBook name is also still available.

No way will a brand new first generation ARM MacBoo cost 999. I'd say 1999 knowing Apple. Remember the starting price of the Air way back? It will have Face I.D.as that is Apple's direction for security and from my iPhone X experience - it's amazing. Touch ID never worked well for me on the iPhone.
The days of 999 Macs are gone and replaced by the iPad Pro.

ProMotion will be reserved for the MacBook Pro IF Apple decide to implement that but sadly, i'm not holding my breath - they did not even implement it on the iMac Pro at £5K. :'(
 
No way will a brand new first generation ARM MacBoo cost 999. I'd say 1999 knowing Apple. Remember the starting price of the Air way back? It will have Face I.D.as that is Apple's direction for security and from my iPhone X experience - it's amazing. Touch ID never worked well for me on the iPhone.
The days of 999 Macs are gone and replaced by the iPad Pro.

ProMotion will be reserved for the MacBook Pro IF Apple decide to implement that but sadly, i'm not holding my breath - they did not even implement it on the iMac Pro at £5K. :'(

That is the other option.

So 2 options:

1. To show off what ARM Macs can do , Apple will release a ultra high end MacBook 12 inch ARM, with an ultra high end , super fast soc, and high end specs, faceid, even promotion, etc. for a steep price

2. A cheaper alternative with an ARM soc, but with just the same functionality as the current MacBook 12 inch, no other extras, with an ARM soc, with more RAM, that is fast enough(faster than the intel counterparts).

But my guess is option 2. So cheaper than the current MacBook and MacBook Air. They have to make it an appealing device, and they need some good sales, to convince more and more developers to make or convert apps for this device. It is the first arm based Mac device, and since they want this to succeed, and being able to make more models of ARM Macs in the future.

iPad Pro: iOS, touchscreen, promotion, pencil support

MacBook ARM: MacOs on ARM, dedicated keyboard and trackpad .

So both of these devices have their advantages, and markets, and one doesn’ t need to replace the other (yet).
 
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Those leaked model numbers from last week have Mac OS 10.14 as the operating system. I would think we could expect a release sometime this summer, perhaps soon, since 10.14 is still the most recent operating system available.
 
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