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Will iPad 3 be pretty much the ultimate tablet?
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The fact that you say "I haven't even mentioned no flash" - tells me how little you know... sad, but true..
Seems obvious really: To manage files correctly.
If you have ever managed a web site and need to upload a file.. Don't even think about an IOS It's simply not up to the job!
For the moment the iPad is somewhere approaching a computer, but until IOS matures, then it will never achieve that status.
Correct.
I have a friend who blogs while traveling. He got very excited about the idea of just bringing an iPad instead of his computer, because he could upload pics from his memory card to the iPad via the camera connector kit, had apps on the iPad that could do very basic editing, etc.
Then he went to his blog, wrote his first post on the iPad, and tried to upload a photo to the blog.... uh oh, can't browse the iPad to select the photo.
Oops!
Need I say more..
The most simple of tasks and the iPad is incapable of doing the job, at least unless IOS is drastically improved.
The most simple of tasks and the iPad is incapable of doing the job, at least unless IOS is drastically improved.
the iPad3 will be near perfect for now but there is enough room to grow:
haptic feedback for a better keyboard and UI experience, more disk space, faster cpu/gpu, faster wifi, 3D display (ugh..), cordless charging, touch technology with stylus support, display that is antiglare and can be read in direct sunlight and and and and
haptic feedback for a better keyboard and UI experience, more disk space, faster cpu/gpu, faster wifi, 3D display (ugh..), cordless charging, touch technology with stylus support, display that is antiglare and can be read in direct sunlight and and and and
I agree that file management is a good thing to have.... unfortunately electronics aren't for geeks anymore and most just want the basics, we power users that want features rather than just brain dead stupid navigation are a dying breed. Oh well thank god android is around even though it has its quirks too.
Because of this I picked up a Motorola Xoom for 400 @ 32gb with expandability, file management and customization.
The biggest reasons I am not getting the ipad 3 is because I already have a iOS device and it just seems silly to drop
at least 500 for a larger screen.
Though I don't agree with the ipad not being a computer it is able to run independently from a desktop/laptop rather than depend on itunes for everything. We all have different ideas to what a computer is and isn't though.
The ipad 3 isn't the ultimate tablet there will always be better around the corner, apple is especially good at lengthening the product popularity by introducing new features gradually. I don't doubt that Apple already has the roadmap to the iPad 5.
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I am no geek.. Just a user who either professionally or personally, tries to get the most out of the technology available to make my life easier and more fulfilled.
The machines I use to achieve that are simply those which do the job.. And what I'm saying in the context of this thread is that IOS is by no means the finished product. It obviously works for millions of people out there, but for me, trying to accomplish a simple task like uploading a file to my web site, it is a waste of space. Until it can fulfil such a simple task I won't be using it for anything much more than an interface on my cellphone.
I'm most interested in its weight and battery life. Wonder how LTE or the Retina display will affect the batteries. Is there any chance the iPad 3 will be the same weight or lighter? 
Edit: Somewhat rhetorical.
Edit: Somewhat rhetorical.
WHY ARE PEOPLE CRYING? ...
If you want a laptop/desktop buy one.... If you want a tablet BUY one... if you dont know what is what - READ and stop crying... for goodness sake... are people just idiots :S
Are you guys also crying over the fact your mobilephone dosent take your floppy-disk?...
If you want a laptop/desktop buy one.... If you want a tablet BUY one... if you dont know what is what - READ and stop crying... for goodness sake... are people just idiots :S
Are you guys also crying over the fact your mobilephone dosent take your floppy-disk?...
The optimal solution (and apparently the only one people can imagine) to being able to put a photo on a webpage is importing a whole file system?
Power Users spend their time schlepping around with file management?
File management (as it exists on non-mobile OSs) is a negative to be eliminated, not something which should be accommodated.
In a buisness enviro workflow (at the most rudimentary level) you should have networked docs among team members, auto-save of revisions you can revert to, cloud management, and web/app interfaces which let you accomplish a task instead of directly handling a bunch of stupid folders full of .dll cruft, ancient files nobody can remember, and the like. You know how iTunes scraps the need for manually organizing folders by Band_Name_Album_1? As much of the OS as possible should be like this.
Seeing direct file management as a solution is like electronic hoarding. It's the optimal solution for people who want to pick at stuff instead of getting things done a better way.
I was going to say that I'm surprised people can't imagine anything beyond current filesystems (and think they're a good thing for productivity) but I can't tell a lie.
Power Users spend their time schlepping around with file management?
File management (as it exists on non-mobile OSs) is a negative to be eliminated, not something which should be accommodated.
In a buisness enviro workflow (at the most rudimentary level) you should have networked docs among team members, auto-save of revisions you can revert to, cloud management, and web/app interfaces which let you accomplish a task instead of directly handling a bunch of stupid folders full of .dll cruft, ancient files nobody can remember, and the like. You know how iTunes scraps the need for manually organizing folders by Band_Name_Album_1? As much of the OS as possible should be like this.
Seeing direct file management as a solution is like electronic hoarding. It's the optimal solution for people who want to pick at stuff instead of getting things done a better way.
I was going to say that I'm surprised people can't imagine anything beyond current filesystems (and think they're a good thing for productivity) but I can't tell a lie.
Because it feels so natural to have it that people (without professional computer experience) may not realize it. n the other hand, iOS users clearly realize that they don't have a file system because the lack of it bites them again and again.
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Let me try to help you... Because unlike the floppy disk, file system is actually very useful on mobile devices. Here is one simple example: you want to copy a 5GB file from your buddy's laptop (a movie or something). How do you do it with iPhone? You don't. With Android, you just connect your phone with a standard USB cable and copy the file using File Manager.
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Very misguided comment. Sure specific applications need to use meta data and all kinds of tricks to optimize work flows. You forget one thing - they do it using a File System. Even iOS has one (obviously) - it's just not exposed to a user and this often makes simple things very difficult or impossible. Here is one simple example, App Store has what 300K apps? And none of them can "talk" to another because they can't share the data via the file system. That's just stupid. That's one reason why iPad is totally useless without a real computer.
Really iCab would have done this with no problems.
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Sorry but that is and was wrong.
@Lilo777
GREEEAT argument ... wouldnt it be crazy to make something where you can store things away from the device, maybe call it something like "The Cloud" - Maybe even make it possible to sync OTG and stream content from that place... Ohhhhh man, the future cannot come any faster! gonna be awesome!
- And to be even MORE serious, theres always good and bad things on each device, some (like the iPad) is extremely good at being a tablet (not a laptop) but being a portable entertainment, movie, reader, music and internet device - I would never trade in the things iPad does so extremely well, just to get a file-manager... Then I will just use my laptop - No REAL power users would use ANY tablet as a "tool" for programming for example, you are talking more about a hybrid between a tablet and a laptop, - and they are coming - they arent just here yet.
GREEEAT argument ... wouldnt it be crazy to make something where you can store things away from the device, maybe call it something like "The Cloud" - Maybe even make it possible to sync OTG and stream content from that place... Ohhhhh man, the future cannot come any faster! gonna be awesome!
- And to be even MORE serious, theres always good and bad things on each device, some (like the iPad) is extremely good at being a tablet (not a laptop) but being a portable entertainment, movie, reader, music and internet device - I would never trade in the things iPad does so extremely well, just to get a file-manager... Then I will just use my laptop - No REAL power users would use ANY tablet as a "tool" for programming for example, you are talking more about a hybrid between a tablet and a laptop, - and they are coming - they arent just here yet.
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[The idea that I 'forgot' that iOS has a filesystem is total lol. Obviously what people want is a GUI for that file system, and that's what we're talking about here. And lilo777 thinks that it's only solution to save the iPad from being 'totally useless'.
And instead of addressing any of the points in the thread, we just get (again) an example of moving files around as the end to be achieved, rather than one means among many possible ones towards the actual desired end of manipulating a picture, or sharing data, etc.]
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Nobody ever says "I want to copy a 5GB file." They say "I want to show you a movie". When you get this, you'll understand.
OK, I get this. So, the situation is I want to show me a movie that my pal has on his laptop. I have an iPhone. How do you do this? You can't.
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Great. You are assuming that everybody uses iCloud. They don't. And nobody is going to store 5GB movies in the cloud any time soon. So, the situation is - your pal has a movie on his PC laptop. You want to have a copy of his movie. Go! You can use iCloud if you want.
nothing will ever be ultimate as long as its a apple product because something new will come out the next year
@Lilo777
Haha... Noooo I dont expect people to use iCloud, but theres like 100 different cloud storage options - so no problem, no problem at all ...
You just need to think a little, then its really not that hard to work with a product...
Its like when we went from CDs to memory sticks... - Did you say "try to get 10 songs from your pals computer without burning a CD" ? ...
And then I think you should know this aswell...
Haha... Noooo I dont expect people to use iCloud, but theres like 100 different cloud storage options - so no problem, no problem at all ...
You just need to think a little, then its really not that hard to work with a product...
Its like when we went from CDs to memory sticks... - Did you say "try to get 10 songs from your pals computer without burning a CD" ? ...
And then I think you should know this aswell...
I don't want Dropbox, I simply want to be able to move my own files from whatever of my own machines, to my own web site..
All I'm saying is that IOS is not yet mature, it is great for the vast majority of folk who are happy to use the many apps available. But it isn't yet capable of doing anything for my particular creative needs. Maybe at some point in the future it will do what I need. Until then I won't be interested in the iPad, be it version 3, 4 or 40.