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Can you quantify "look slow" ?

Again, this all depends on what bottlenecks your application. If it's memory access or disk, just a CPU upgrade will not help. But sure, it's safe to assume that anything that comes out a year from now will be faster than what's released today by at least 10%.

While you're waiting for a year for the CPU of tomorrow, we'll be enjoying our machines of today ... :D


Oh I'm enjoying my Blackbook just fine. Thanks for caring though. It will be a lot more than 10% also. You probably own the new alu Macbook and don't want to think it will be outdated processor wise in a year, but it will be. Nehalem is going to be awesome by everyones account. That is when it should be the best time to buy a new one IMO.
 
Penryn wasnt drastically faster than Merom....I'll believe it when I see it (Nehalem)...Intel knows how to hype things up......anyone remember HT Technology and MMX? lol.....I remember the day of my Pentium 4 3.2GHz with HT Technology.... *rolls eyes*

EDIT: With a little searching..... "Core-wise, clock-for-clock, Nehalem will provide a 15%-20% increase in performance compared to Penryn."
 
Penryn wasnt drastically faster than Merom....I'll believe it when I see it (Nehalem)...Intel knows how to hype things up......anyone remember HT Technology and MMX? lol.....I remember the day of my Pentium 4 3.2GHz with HT Technology.... *rolls eyes*

EDIT: With a little searching..... "Core-wise, clock-for-clock, Nehalem will provide a 15%-20% increase in performance compared to Penryn."

Intel claims on most things it will show a 20-50% increase plus it will have a lot of things where the manufacture can easily upgrade to other things which they can't do with Penryn. You are right though. Right now it is basically speculation, but from independent sites I trust it is going to be amazing. Time will tell.
 
You probably own the new alu Macbook and don't want to think it will be outdated processor wise in a year, but it will be.
I do own an Al MB and couldn't care less when it's "outdated" as long as it can still run what I want it to run. Just like your black MB can still do the job even though the Al MBs were released.

Of course everything will be surpassed by newer tech in a year, whether from a new architecture like Nehalem or a speed bump + bug fixes. That's the way this industry stays afloat. But just because something new and faster gets released doesn't suddenly make all the old tech stop functioning. :rolleyes:
 
I do own an Al MB and couldn't care less when it's "outdated" as long as it can still run what I want it to run. Just like your black MB can still do the job even though the Al MBs were released.

Of course everything will be surpassed by newer tech in a year, whether from a new architecture like Nehalem or a speed bump + bug fixes. That's the way this industry stays afloat. But just because something new and faster gets released doesn't suddenly make all the old tech stop functioning. :rolleyes:

Never said it did. I just mentioned why I'm waiting.
 
so it begins ... :rolleyes:

Worse yet, there are multiple threads on the same page asking the same thing. :confused:

You should see it over on the iPhone forum. A few days ago, I counted 6 threads on the first page all asking when the iPhone was going to see a bump to 32GB.
 
Apple introduced the iMac G5 with iSight camera on October 12, 2005. Then on January 10, 2006 it was updated to a brand new processor, losing the G5 and moving to Intel.

I bought the G5 model in October and boy, when January came I was mad.

I wonder if history will be repeated in January?
 
Apple introduced the iMac G5 with iSight camera on October 12, 2005. Then on January 10, 2006 it was updated to a brand new processor, losing the G5 and moving to Intel.

I bought the G5 model in October and boy, when January came I was mad.

I wonder if history will be repeated in January?

you should never buy a computer then:)
I think it was some sort of exceptional situation back then, Apple is not moving away from Intel now and just the MBP17 will be updated in January,maybe even just announced as it has been a little bit updated in October
 
Yes. MWSF09 will herald the dawn of the next generation MacBooks built out of a single piece of titanium. They will be awesome, so awesome that they even put 3core LEDs behind the Apple logo so that is changes colour to suit your mood. No, not just that, they will levitate slightly, so that no matter where you are nor what you're doing they float mystically at typing level. And and and they'll have blu-ray. And satellite broadband reception. And WiMax. And a slot for your SIM card (AT&T in America, O2 in UK). And a special laser that comes out on a robotic arm that gives you a manicure as you wait for a progress bar to load.

Okay, my sarcasm engine just ran out of gas.

If they do update anything at MWSF09 they will introduce the new aesthetics of the MacBook range to the 17" MBP and thats about it.
 
Yes. MWSF09 will herald the dawn of the next generation MacBooks built out of a single piece of titanium. They will be awesome, so awesome that they even put 3core LEDs behind the Apple logo so that is changes colour to suit your mood. No, not just that, they will levitate slightly, so that no matter where you are nor what you're doing they float mystically at typing level. And and and they'll have blu-ray. And satellite broadband reception. And WiMax. And a slot for your SIM card (AT&T in America, O2 in UK). And a special laser that comes out on a robotic arm that gives you a manicure as you wait for a progress bar to load.

Okay, my sarcasm engine just ran out of gas.

If they do update anything at MWSF09 they will introduce the new aesthetics of the MacBook range to the 17" MBP and thats about it.

I could use the manacure! I think that is the best sci-fi computer i have heard yet on the forums! Levitating... lol:rolleyes:
 
When it gives me a BJ, i'll be impressed :rolleyes:. Seriously, I suspect the 17 inch MBP will be quad core to compete with HP, Dell, etc.. That and 8gb memory. Hate to see what they will charge for it not to mention the heat issue.
 
Intel claims on most things it will show a 20-50% increase plus it will have a lot of things where the manufacture can easily upgrade to other things which they can't do with Penryn. You are right though. Right now it is basically speculation, but from independent sites I trust it is going to be amazing. Time will tell.

Most programs aren't made to take advantage of multithreading or more than 2 cores for that matter so I don't see Nehalem making big improvements in anything but rendering, compression, encoding etc tasks. For regular use the current processors are way more than enough so you won't see any noticeable benefits there.

The biggest bottleneck will still be the hard disk unless there are significant improvements in SSD technology next year.
 
Most programs aren't made to take advantage of multithreading or more than 2 cores for that matter so I don't see Nehalem making big improvements in anything but rendering, compression, encoding etc tasks. For regular use the current processors are way more than enough so you won't see any noticeable benefits there.

The biggest bottleneck will still be the hard disk unless there are significant improvements in SSD technology next year.

It will be more much more than that according to the sites I visit. I also think Apple will take advantage of what it can do. I guess we will see next year. No point in debating it until it fully comes out. Regardless I'm waiting until it comes out. Only makes sense for me and I'm of the opinion it will make a dramatic increase in what is available right now in the current line of Macbooks.
 
Yes. MWSF09 will herald the dawn of the next generation MacBooks built out of a single piece of titanium. They will be awesome, so awesome that they even put 3core LEDs behind the Apple logo so that is changes colour to suit your mood. No, not just that, they will levitate slightly, so that no matter where you are nor what you're doing they float mystically at typing level. And and and they'll have blu-ray. And satellite broadband reception. And WiMax. And a slot for your SIM card (AT&T in America, O2 in UK). And a special laser that comes out on a robotic arm that gives you a manicure as you wait for a progress bar to load.

Okay, my sarcasm engine just ran out of gas.

If they do update anything at MWSF09 they will introduce the new aesthetics of the MacBook range to the 17" MBP and thats about it.

I wish Apple would seriously put an SIM card slot. That way we wouldn't need WWAN data cards. Honestly, my current WWAM card doesn't let me use another peripheral as it consumes all the space. I know the easy solution is to buy a USB hub, but meh, thats not the point. The point is functionality and ease of use.
 
I think MacWorld 2009 will be about software. I wouldn't by a new notebook now just so I wouldn't have to buy the new software packages for it in January.
 
If you can wait until they get Nehalem (Fall of next year most likely) then I would if I were you. I have decided to do that and get the Macbook Pro. Nehalem will make the alu Macbook before it look slow and outdated. I'm looking forward to it.

Yes, but that will be enough of a radical change to avoid the first revision - too much risk of unexpected issues. For me it's better to buy now and plan to upgrade to the second Nehalem version.

wait: will there be an 8-core macbook?

Only if you don't mind setting your lap on fire. ;)
 
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