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no im not trying to justify anything.
i really have no use for the upgrades that were listed and I dont live in the US so LTE isnt worth much for me

ps I live in Australia

When is Australia getting LTE?

(Experiencing LTE is like using 3G for the first time. Perhaps it's a moot point if you don't have access to it, but once you use a device with LTE you'll never go back to 3G/HSPA+.)
 
Not sure why you are getting voted down

If I had to guess, it's because there is no way for us to know what Apple is going to add to the phone yet. Will his 4S become obsolete? No. Will this new phone be better in every conceivable way than the 4S? There is a good chance. Will it matter to Joe Blow? Only Joe Blow will know that.
 
no im not trying to justify anything.
i really have no use for the upgrades that were listed and I dont live in the US so LTE isnt worth much for me

ps I live in Australia

Telstra AU already has their LTE network set up in most major Australian cities.

You were wondering whether or not there'd be a new feature that casual consumers would notice: I'd say a larger screen and a redesigned housing are likely upgrades that will be immediately obvious to a passing glance.
 
Telstra AU already has their LTE network set up in most major Australian cities.

You were wondering whether or not there'd be a new feature that casual consumers would notice: I'd say a larger screen and a redesigned housing are likely upgrades that will be immediately obvious to a passing glance.

If the noticeable changes in the 5 are like the ones u listed I will be glad that I bought the 4s (although I am glad ATM)

Also as I said I am new to mobile phones in general so what exactly does lte do besides being faster?
 
It will come in September, it will be the same design as the 4/4S, it will have a slightly faster/evolved CPU/maybe more RAM, and it will have LTE on the three carriers.

I doubt that very much. The current design has gone through the cycle. It's due an update.
 
I doubt that very much. The current design has gone through the cycle. It's due an update.

I think it might look like those concept designs we see on google images

Or imagine if apple makes it in a oval shape

Can u imagine it as an oval shape? Lol
 
I think it might look like those concept designs we see on google images

Or imagine if apple makes it in a oval shape

Can u imagine it as an oval shape? Lol

No, I can't.

I hope the back ins't flat on the new design. The iPhone 4/4S is really uncomfortable to hold.

I also hope for a larger screen.

If those two points are implemented, I'll buy it.
 
No, I can't.

I hope the back ins't flat on the new design. The iPhone 4/4S is really uncomfortable to hold.

I also hope for a larger screen.

If those two points are implemented, I'll buy it.

We are all speculating to this hypothetical iPhone

Can you imagine if there isn't even going to be an iPhone released this year? :s
 
None of those things except battery and maybe quad core really matter TO ME

I don't really care about lte, NFC, big screen,etc that much

Then why on earth are you asking!? If none of the rumoured advancements matter to you, then of course the 4S is fine for you and will be for a long time! I think I understand why people voted you down now....

On a side note, the fact you mentioned you would like a quad core and better battery life in the same sentence concerns me.
 
If the noticeable changes in the 5 are like the ones u listed I will be glad that I bought the 4s (although I am glad ATM)

Also as I said I am new to mobile phones in general so what exactly does lte do besides being faster?

What kind of improvements are you looking for that would make you want to upgrade? We've covered pretty much everything that most are looking for... larger screen, new design, LTE, NFC, quad-core, more RAM...? There isn't much else that could be changed.

Certainly sounds to me you're trying to justify your purchase, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just not a good idea to buy an iPhone many months after its release (or several months before the next one) if you're so concerned about the next gen's features.

On a side note, the fact you mentioned you would like a quad core and better battery life in the same sentence concerns me.

Quad-core ≠ poor battery life. Tasks can be spread across multiple processing cores so each core is not fully loaded. This means the processor does not have to run at max capacity, meaning the two/four cores can run at a much lower voltage and speed which would mean lower battery consumption.

Take into account the time factor as well. A quad-core CPU would be able to complete tasks much quicker than a single-core CPU (or to put it another way, the single core processor would need to stay in an active high power state for much longer than a quad core), meaning the quad can enter a low power state earlier than the single-core can.

Also, most multiple core mobile CPUs I've seen can selectively turn off each core so basic tasks can be run using only one core meaning consumption would be identical to that of a single core processor.

(tl;dr higher performance per watt in most cases)

We are all speculating to this hypothetical iPhone

Can you imagine if there isn't even going to be an iPhone released this year? :s

Not going to happen. Apple is out there to make money.
 
I doubt that very much. The current design has gone through the cycle. It's due an update.

We'll see. I secretly hope they come out with a bigger screen, that way I won't want one, and I'll be happy with my 4S for several more years. :)
 
That's not bad, but it looks like a larger than 3.5" screen.

Exactly, the current 3.5" is tiny in comparison to my S2. Which is why I like the look of that concept. The large screen coupled with the rounded back is perfect.

The current iPhones dont feel nice to hold at all.
 
That's not bad, but it looks like a larger than 3.5" screen.

I don't get it. You say the droid razr maxx is the best phone Verizon offers (therefore better than the 4S). That phone has a screen quite a bit larger than 3.5". Yet you've said that if it's any larger than 3.5", you're sticking with the 4S, even if apple adds the same improvements that make the maxx a better phone.
 
I don't get it. You say the droid razr maxx is the best phone Verizon offers (therefore better than the 4S). That phone has a screen quite a bit larger than 3.5". Yet you've said that if it's any larger than 3.5", you're sticking with the 4S, even if apple adds the same improvements that make the maxx a better phone.

The screen size is a downside. If I was in NYC, New Hampshire, or any other market where Verizon dominates, I would put up with the bulkiness of the RAZR MAXX for the better network. The VeriPhone is a turd bird as it came crippled out of the gate, launching only a few months before the Thunderbolt started the switch to 4G LTE. The DROID BIONIC finally put all the pieces together, and the RAZR MAXX finally dealt with the Android battery issue through sheer brute force.

The iPhone was never in the contending for the best device on Verizon, since it doesn't have 4G LTE.
 
The screen size is a downside. If I was in NYC, New Hampshire, or any other market where Verizon dominates, I would put up with the bulkiness of the RAZR MAXX for the better network. The VeriPhone is a turd bird as it came crippled out of the gate, launching only a few months before the Thunderbolt started the switch to 4G LTE. The DROID BIONIC finally put all the pieces together, and the RAZR MAXX finally dealt with the Android battery issue through sheer brute force.

The iPhone was never in the contending for the best device on Verizon, since it doesn't have 4G LTE.
But you've stated that you wouldn't buy an iPhone with a slightly larger screen even if it does come with 4G LTE. So why is 4G LTE enough to make the droids better than the 4S when a hypothetical new iPhone with 4G LTE and a better screen would be inferior by your standards? Seems like a contradiction to me.

How is the Verizon iPhone any more crippled than the AT&T version?
 
I cant wait for the Iphone5, I think there will be a major difference from the 4s.
There are a bunch of really cool looking rumor picture floating around.:D
 
I cant wait for the Iphone5, I think there will be a major difference from the 4s.
There are a bunch of really cool looking rumor picture floating around.:D
You got a long wait though. October is forever. You could buy another smartphone and wear it out by then.
 
It's quite possible that the 5 will be substantially better than the 4S, but know one can say for sure. I'm pretty sure it's going to have a 32nm CPU, hopefully a dual-core or quad-core Cortex A15, and have a larger screen size.
 
Would love a 12mp Camera on the New iPhone

Why? Just adding megapixels to a camera means absolutely nothing. Especially to a camera phone. The iPhone 4S camera is absolutely great in my mind. I only see a couple updates in that area with it being left along generally. The 4S is still one of the best cameras on a phone I've seen IMO.

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The screen size is a downside. If I was in NYC, New Hampshire, or any other market where Verizon dominates, I would put up with the bulkiness of the RAZR MAXX for the better network. The VeriPhone is a turd bird as it came crippled out of the gate, launching only a few months before the Thunderbolt started the switch to 4G LTE. The DROID BIONIC finally put all the pieces together, and the RAZR MAXX finally dealt with the Android battery issue through sheer brute force.

The iPhone was never in the contending for the best device on Verizon, since it doesn't have 4G LTE.

How? It runs the same speed as any other iPhone out there. 4G LTE isn't everywhere. Why would the iPhone be crippled if I can't even use 4G LTE around where I live?
 
Let's be real....you are going to be a insanely jealous if you can't afford the iPhone 5. But jealousy is normal because you are human. Just don't let it consume you.

If the pattern is the indication, the iPhone 5 is going to be very different externally, hopefully bigger, screen wise. Software wise, iOS 6 of course will bring new features, but the majority if not all will be available for your 4S.

So yes, the iPhone 5 will be different and it will make you want to upgrade, but be a responsible adult about the situation and make an informed decision or be an irresponsible adult and just buy it cause you want it. I do the latter every year.

As far as the iPhone looking stone age, I think there is a good chance that that will be be the perception if the iPhone 5 is an external upgrade. For the past two years, we have had this front and back glass design so to have a fresh new look will definitely make the phone kind of old looking, but again, software wise, the 4S will probably be pretty much identical. Internally, the 5 will have upgraded hardware. That's no surprise.
 
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