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Will the new macbook pros have USB 3.0?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 55 24.0%
  • Hell, no!

    Votes: 174 76.0%

  • Total voters
    229
I agree that usb 3.0 is still new to the market , and yes not many devices got usb 3.0 ready. ( i think only buffalo external drives , what i heard ) , but anyways highly unlikely.

usb 2.0 and firewire is more than enough.
 
I don't give a flying flip about USB 3 ... what I want to see on the refresh is Firewire 3200.
 
Bull.

Back in the day when RAM was crucially limited, what you said was true. OS swapped like crazy, and the hard drive file system had a hard time figuring out proper blocks if there was less than 10% free space.

Now... you load your app and data, then it stays in the RAM while you work. Not an issue.

(and FWIW, UNIX systems don't get confused even if you totally run out of hard disk space, which may happen if some app writes to /tmp a lot. It just keeps going, unlike some other systems which are totally useless with little free storage space)

You have no idea of what are you speaking about ...
Today it is just the same : more ram but bigger files.
You still need a swap file and a 10% of free disk space.
 
Bull.

Back in the day when RAM was crucially limited, what you said was true. OS swapped like crazy, and the hard drive file system had a hard time figuring out proper blocks if there was less than 10% free space.

Now... you load your app and data, then it stays in the RAM while you work. Not an issue.

(and FWIW, UNIX systems don't get confused even if you totally run out of hard disk space, which may happen if some app writes to /tmp a lot. It just keeps going, unlike some other systems which are totally useless with little free storage space)

That's not true at all. Most applications frequently save to the disk in case of a crash or power failure. If you have very little free disk space and a file grows, where does the OS put it? If the only free space is in chunks a few kilobytes in size, the extra space the file takes up has to be split into many little pieces. If that file is your email file/database, the next time you start your email client it will probably be very slow.

OS X keeps the drive mostly defragmented as long as there is enough free space. If you run out of space, that doesn't work any more and the disk will get slower and slower as it becomes fragmented. If you run out of space completely and something needs to save to the disk, you will get an error if there is not enough space.

Try running your computer with <200MB free for a while (maybe a week) and let us know how it works out.
 
I think Apple will probably be including USB 3 in the new MBPs. They are usually at the forefront of new technology and a few Tuesdays have passed w/out anything new. I bet they will be releasing new MBPs pretty soon w/ USB 3 and new processors, and if lucky HD :D for the 15" MBP. I hope they do, at least, because I really want to get a MBP for college, but it better be powerful.
 
Glad somebody mentioned this.



when Intel says they're going to add support for something, it means that they're going to put it on the southbridge (i.e., ICH10R, ICH10, ICH9, etc). The reason we have USB 3.0 so far is via third party controllers that attach to the southbridge (probably via PCIe).

And Apple probably doesn't want the additional cost of the third-party controller.

This is correct, most of the motherboards that have USB 3.0 built in use a NEC USB 3.0 controller that uses PCIe. You can also use a PCIe card that contains USB 3.0

However, depending on the implementation there are also issues with the 2 USB 3.0 slots sharing the PCIe lanes (and acting like splitting a single instance of USB 3.0 bandwidth between two connectors) and with certain configurations running the USB 3.0 at full speed will take away PCIe lanes from the graphics cards.

Once there is a direct implementation on motherboard chipsets this will eliminate all these issues. And that is where the Intel time line quote of 2011 comes into play.
 
Apple will put USB 3.0 in their computers at the appropriate time, that being not too early and not too late to affect sales.

As a company, they have historically not been early adopters of technology they didn't invent. Early bandwagon stuff has traditionally been the province of the other mfgrs as a marketing tool, which along with pricing with razor-thing margins, they have needed to compete with all the other mfgrs that are doing the same thing. Things like blu ray and USB 3.0. Apple historically hasn't needed those things to compete successfully, and just as we won't see blu-ray in this upcoming MB release, we won't see USB 3.0. Maybe in the fall.
 
As I said before, the upcoming Sony Vaio Z (definitely an high-end computer, in the same range of the MBP) doesn't have any USB3.0, and it's hardly "outdated".
Btw it is VERY DIFFICULT right now to find any external storage using USB3.0
The situation it's probably going to change in the next 6-10 months, and if this is the case, we'll see Usb3.0 ports in the next MBP's revision (late 2010-early 2011 I suppose).

So? An asus laptop has USB 3.0, eSata, USB 2.0 and so on. Just because that Sony doesn't have one, doesn't mean that there aren't laptops out there that doesn't have it.
 
I agree that usb 3.0 is still new to the market , and yes not many devices got usb 3.0 ready. ( i think only buffalo external drives , what i heard ) , but anyways highly unlikely.

usb 2.0 and firewire is more than enough.

It's not for me. If you want fast transfer speeds, then eStata and USB 3.0 are the way to go.

If USB 3.0 isn't included, then I atleast hope eStata will be on the new MBP.
 
I think I'm the only one speculating this but...

I think one reason Apple would release MBPs weeks before the iPad (March 9th if one believes MacRumors' Best Buy inventory recent headline), would be to reinvigorate the hype. If new MBPs come with USB 3.0 and a few controlled leaks, speculation would swirl if there would be a USB 3.0 model of the iPad offered. Also, if Apple followed this up with a USB 3.0 model of the iPhone they'd be asserting themselves in the industry and answering the chicken/egg dilemma. Just a theory...
 
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