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Will you apply for a free case for your iPhone 4 from Apple?

  • Yes, I need it to fix my phone!

    Votes: 110 22.0%
  • Yes, although I don't need it

    Votes: 347 69.4%
  • No, my phone works fine without it

    Votes: 11 2.2%
  • No, I already have an acceptable case and don't need another

    Votes: 17 3.4%
  • I don't have the iPhone 4

    Votes: 15 3.0%

  • Total voters
    500
Depends on what the catch is.

If Apple wants me to waive my right to future claims against the iPhone 4, they can keep their case. They can't buy me out that easily.

I paid for my own case, and will continue to monitor Apple's actions and behavior. If manufacturing changes come about that coat the antenna or otherwise addresses the problem, the last situation to be in is that I accepted Apple's fix and am not entitled for an exchange.
 
Depends on what the catch is.

If Apple wants me to waive my right to future claims against the iPhone 4, they can keep their case. They can't buy me out that easily.

I paid for my own case, and will continue to monitor Apple's actions and behavior. If manufacturing changes come about that coat the antenna or otherwise addresses the problem, the last situation to be in is that I accepted Apple's fix and am not entitled for an exchange.

Good point...although I'm not having any current issues with my iPhone 4...I'm not going to waive my rights to future hardware fixes by taking a refund.

But I couldn't see Apple screwing people like that. They'd have a bigger PR problem than they have now. And I do trust Apple to make this right...now and in the future if need be.
 
If you have any Italian or Russian (which Im nearly half), you'd know that turning a gift down is calling it and its sender unworthy.

Blonde Buddhist

I'm 'wholly' Russian and I've never considered what you state above as specific to - or even particularly prominent in - Russian culture. In almost any society, if you were to refuse a personal gift, it would be considered rude and insulting. So, firstly, I'm confused as to why you single out those particular cultures. Secondly, it's a spurious comparison because this is a company trying to make amends for inconveniencing its customers and providing them with a faulty product - there's nothing personal about it (despite what Jobs might say about taking things 'personally'), and clearly no one is going to be offended if the offer of the free case isn't taken up (in fact its not even something you have to 'opt out' from, but rather you have to 'opt in' to take advantage of....I have no idea why I'm taking apart your flippant logic). As you yourself said, somewhat contradictorily given the point that followed, 'Apple doesn't have any feelings, it's a company'.

The way you express yourself is ridiculous, but your essential point is still sound. Apple is an enormous company with a very sizeable profit margin on its products (a bigger one than most I'd suggest - they take advantage of the fact that we're willing to pay those premiums, as is there right). It can easily afford to hand out 1 free case to every iPhone 4 user (otherwise it wouldn't have made the offer).

There is nothing morally wrong about choosing to take advantage of this offer even if you don't have an obvious antenna issue. The free cases aren't primarily about fixing a design fault. Obviously I don't know what Jobs thinks (and knows) about this issue privately, but publicly he's stated that the signal 'attenuation' isn't a big deal, even with 'naked' phones, and is only a problem for a minority of users, in a minority of situations. Yet he's still offered every user a case, and without having to provide proof of any problems. Jobs said: 'If you want a case, we'll give you a case'. This is about Apple placating angry customers and saving as much face as possible - so they lose as little money as possible. Its intentions have nothing to do with generosity or 'doing the right thing'. They figured they would lose less money making this gesture than not making it.

BoxerGT2.5, if you don't want to take up the offer, then don't, but don't judge those who do simply because they can. Being truly immoral about this would be to somehow circumvent their system and get a case for free (to sell on ebay) without also having purchased an iPhone, or somehow deceiving their online form to get several free cases. Furthermore, if you're concerned about slipping moral standards amongst the 'youth of today', there are far, far more important issues to worry about than people signing up for a free $30 case they are legally entitled to, even if they don't strictly need it.
 
I'm 'wholly' Russian and I've never considered what you state above as specific to - or even particularly prominent in - Russian culture. In almost any society, if you were to refuse a personal gift, it would be considered rude and insulting. So, firstly, I'm confused as to why you single out those particular cultures. Secondly, it's a spurious comparison because this is a company trying to make amends for inconveniencing its customers and providing them with a faulty product - there's nothing personal about it (despite what Jobs might say about taking things 'personally'), and clearly no one is going to be offended if the offer of the free case isn't taken up (in fact its not even something you have to 'opt out' from, but rather you have to 'opt in' to take advantage of....I have no idea why I'm taking apart your flippant logic). As you yourself said, somewhat contradictorily given the point that followed, 'Apple doesn't have any feelings, it's a company'.

The way you express yourself is ridiculous, but your essential point is still sound. Apple is an enormous company with a very sizeable profit margin on its products (a bigger one than most I'd suggest - they take advantage of the fact that we're willing to pay those premiums, as is there right). It can easily afford to hand out 1 free case to every iPhone 4 user (otherwise it wouldn't have made the offer).

There is nothing morally wrong about choosing to take advantage of this offer even if you don't have an obvious antenna issue. The free cases aren't primarily about fixing a design fault. Obviously I don't know what Jobs thinks (and knows) about this issue privately, but publicly he's stated that the signal 'attenuation' isn't a big deal, even with 'naked' phones, and is only a problem for a minority of users, in a minority of situations. Yet he's still offered every user a case, and without having to provide proof of any problems. Jobs said: 'If you want a case, we'll give you a case'. This is about Apple placating angry customers and saving as much face as possible - so they lose as little money as possible. Its intentions have nothing to do with generosity or 'doing the right thing'. They figured they would lose less money making this gesture than not making it.

BoxerGT2.5, if you don't want to take up the offer, then don't, but don't judge those who do simply because they can. Being truly immoral about this would be to somehow circumvent their system and get a case for free (to sell on ebay) without also having purchased an iPhone, or somehow deceiving their online form to get several free cases. Furthermore, if you're concerned about slipping moral standards amongst the 'youth of today', there are far, far more important issues to worry about than people signing up for a free $30 case they are legally entitled to, even if they don't strictly need it.

Good enough... I was in a strange mood this afternoon. My conduct was conducive with those I was responding too, a negative attribute I sometimes fall into.

My point wasn't to compare a gifts from an individual to that of a company. It was to simply show the absurdity by constructing an idiocy of an argument such as "it's morally wrong" Seem's I sorta missed. It will happen again, Im sure.

Grandstanding brings out a strange vibe from me sometimes. Especially when the platform is as insane as this.

Blonde Buddhist
 
Hopefully those who don't need it and/or have insisted that their phone doesn't have the probably will at least have the common courtesy to wait a few weeks before submitting a claim to allow those who have been having problems and do need it to get the first orders... yeah I doubt it...
 
Aren't there like 3 of these polls already? :confused:

Yeah, but the stock holders want to try to make a movement among apple fans where not accepting the bumper is the "cool" thing so they don't lose as much money. Will be seeing these type of threads for a while and you'll see people trying to make a movement for not accepting the bumpers. :p
 
For those that don't want there refund. Please file for the refund and give the money to a local charity. There are a lot of fine people out there that need the help...

That is the best idea I have heard and will definitely tell people who don't plan on getting their refund to do this. Thanks.
 
I bought the bumper after two weeks of going naked and it seemed to help some of my reception issues. I feel like I can grip it better too. Getting my money back will be kind of sweet.
 
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