Will you set up your new phone "as new" or will you restore from backup

[AlPlPlLE]

texts will sync if iPhone 5 is set up as new from iCloud?

Texts will sync with icloud backups yes, but "setting up as new" is not using iCloud. If you setup as new, it will be setup as the first day you turned it on.

Your three options are

1. Setup as new
2. Restore from iCloud backup
3. Restore from iTunes backup

 

[ltb7]

Texts will sync with icloud backups yes, but "setting up as new" is not using iCloud. If you setup as new, it will be setup as the first day you turned it on.

Your three options are

1. Setup as new
2. Restore from iCloud backup
3. Restore from iTunes backup

that is what i thought.....

so then this is incorrect???

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/15738985/

 

[ltb7]

if you set your phone up as new, i wonder if any iMessages made on your old iphone will come back when you sign into your icloud account?

there is the new integration of imessage from phone number/email to mac/ipad/iphone in ios6......

 

[AlPlPlLE]

if you set your phone up as new, i wonder if any iMessages made on your old iphone will come back when you sign into your icloud account?

there is the new integration of imessage from phone number/email to mac/ipad/iphone in ios6......

The only way the messages will be returned to your phone if your doing a restore is from a backup from iTunes or iCloud.

If you setup phone as new after software install, text history will not show up. The feature of iMessage on all devices isn't like the feature of contacts in iCloud. I wish iMessage worked like contacts in the sense of when you login to iCloud and go to messages, theres a way to pull them from a server. But as of right now, that's not an option. If you want the text history, email them to yourself, restore them from backup, or buy software that imports them to the program and allows you to sync them back after new setup.

 

[Juicy D. Links]

What you guy mean by "other' ??????????????/

 

[AlPlPlLE]

What you guy mean by "other' ??????????????/

This stuff.

 

[macMD]

I always go the new route, just seems more efficient and its a great way to do some spring cleaning while you are in there.

 

[SHirsch999]

As new to go with new computer. I need to figure out how to get my old music on the new phone though. It's not on my new computer either.

I copied all of my music onto an external hard drive, then copied it all onto the new computer. Worked perfectly except for 1 album! I have no idea why the one album did not copy!!

 

[Juicy D. Links]

This stuff.

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ahhh ok gotcha.... what exactly is that "other" in case you might know

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This stuff.

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I am gonna test this now

http://osxdaily.com/2010/06/25/what-is-the-iphone-other-capacity-seen-in-itunes/

 

[Fissure]

Those of you seeing "other" those are corruptions from apps or apps themselves and will take up that space unless you do one of the two options

"Other" is most typically TXT and iMessage Data and most of that kind of data are pictures and movies sent or received via TXT or iMessage.

I don't know about anyone else but some of that I consider valuable data. So if your gonna setup as "NEW", that data will be lost unless you painstaking go back through your messages and save the media files to you Camera Roll and then export them off your phone. But then you lose the "context" of the conversations related to those media files as you won't have the words or txt conversations they are apart of.

I always:

1) Clean unnecessary data off the old phone
2) Backup the old phone to iCloud
3) Upgrade the old phone to the new iOS version
4) Backup the old phone to iCloud again
5) Reset/Wipe/DFU the old phone
6) Restore the new phone from iCloud backup
7) Clean and sell the old phone

Also, considering I like to keep all my txt history I have had to increase
my iCloud storage plan and pay for it. To me, it's worth it.

 

[Sgt93]

Interesting thread......finally. I have always restored but after reading this, I may setup new this time.

 

[iamthekiller]

I'm most certainly restoring - from iCloud.

To set up as a new device admits that you have absolutely nothing of value on your current iphone - sms, app settings, game saves, etc.

It will NOT copy over "issues" from your phone. It does not work like that. It copies app settings and save files. It's absurd that some people think it copies over anything from the operating system, battery issus, or anything like that.

 

[Smtevo]

what if I only want to keep my apps (not the app data), my contacts, and my email addresses (i dont care about the emails, just do not want to setup the emails again) do I sync from icloud backup or new? I do not want my photos because I already put them on my computer and it seems like a hassle to delete them from your phone.

 

[Fissure]

what if I only want to keep my apps (not the app data), my contacts, and my email addresses (i dont care about the emails, just do not want to setup the emails again) do I sync from icloud backup or new? I do not want my photos because I already put them on my computer and it seems like a hassle to delete them from your phone.

You can setup as NEW as long as your synching contacts to iCloud. I am not sure if email account settings are synced to iCloud though. There is a toggle for email but I think it might just be for your iCloud email address, @me.com.
If I was you I'd just setup the accounts again and setup the iPhone as new.

 

[Smtevo]

You can setup as NEW as long as your synching contacts to iCloud. I am not sure if email account settings are synced to iCloud though. There is a toggle for email but I think it might just be for your iCloud email address, @me.com.
If I was you I'd just setup the accounts again and setup the iPhone as new.

Thanks. I will set up as new. How do I get my apps back (such as paid ones like Shazam) if I set up as new?

 

[Fissure]

Thanks. I will set up as new. How do I get my apps back (such as paid ones like Shazam) if I set up as new?

Open the App Store app from your iPhone, hit the "Purchased" tab and everything you have ever purchased and downloaded as an App using that Apple ID will be listed, re-download it, no charge. Same thing applies to Music, TV Shows & Movies purchased from iTunes.

 

[davewho]

Thanks. I will set up as new. How do I get my apps back (such as paid ones like Shazam) if I set up as new?

Just re-download them. You won't even see a price or buy button in the store, just "install".

For me, probably new. I always think I'll regret nuking texts. I got so used to using gtalk and searching through past conversations and having a permanent archive. But, I really don't care that much anymore. All contacts are with google. All apps can be re-downloaded. All settings are fairly quick to tailor.

 

[irDigital0l]

Gonna back up from iCloud but I think Im going to delete some apps...got too much now.

 

[trlyka]

I'll probably restore from backup only because of contacts and pictures. Though I might do it from new if I can figure out how to keep those two things. Are my contacts saved to iCloud to where if I setup as a new phone I'd still have them all? And my question about pictures will be directed to the person I'm quoting in this, but please feel free to answer it if you also have a solution.



Can you backup your photos somehow to where they're still in "Camera Roll" or do you pull them from the file system and sync them?

EDIT: I also want to be able to setup as new, but keep all my old text messages.

I'd also like to know about restore vs. new for things like....Text messages, Pictures, user names and passwords in apps, email, etc., Apps positions (pg 1, 2, 3 etc.) and apps in folders. I assume if you restore from new, you lose certain things and only so much can be backed up. Like iCloud has your contacts, but only if you add a contact to the iCloud contact list. When I add a contact, I have always used the 'All Contacts' option which does not sync up to iCloud. I have 4 different contact options on my iPhone....All Contacts, GMail Contacts, iCloud-All iCloud and Yahoo. Is there a way to change which list syncs with iCloud?

 

[4rtemidis]

I can't believe that almost 50% want to set up as new...
This is madness people
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Why don't you set up your iPhone 4 / 4s as new phone, once iOS 6 comes out?
Then you could just restore from backup, when the iPhone 5 arrives...

 

[The Game 161]

I can't believe that almost 50% want to set up as new...
This is madness people

Each to their own I guess

to me i can't be dealing with the hassle to start from fresh

 

[Hazyb71]

For text messages can't you have all your texts on your iPhone synced with messages on Mountain Lion? Then later, when you have the new phone, have the messages sync from ML to the iPhone?

 

[iMaven]

That doesn't make sense, at all. If you restore an iPhone 5 from an iOS 5.1.1 and earlier backup it won't install iOS 5 on your device. If it was like that then I'd install iOS 1 on my iPhone 4 for the lulz.

If you restore from a backup with an earlier iOS, it will install the earlier iOS then tell you an update is available. The best way to do a restore is to backup your current iPhone, update to iOS 6, back it up again, then restore it to the iPhone 5.

For me: new iPhone, new iOS, new setup, new backup.

 

[4rtemidis]

Ok, then the Apple guy was wrong. He said that if you restore from a backup with an earlier iOS, it will install the earlier iOS then tell you an update is available.

Apple geniuses are not always geniuses...
Some guys are really stupid

 

[Jarson]

As it has been mentioned, setting up as a brand new phone will not retrieve any of your previous data including Messages, Contacts (in iCloud), game saves, app settings, so defo I'll be going with iCloud backup.