i thought about skipping it, but when i saw the price, i may as well do it... well.. it depends.. if $29 = £100 then no, but if it's about £25 then why not..
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Will you upgrade to SnowLeopard ?
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It looks like the designation of Quicktime Pro will not exist.
And with trim and export features the only thing I really need from the new Quicktime that is in Pro is the ability to save things like trailers from the web.
Why isn't Snow Leopard free?
This is in part created by a natural conundrum that occurs with pricing.
A. Price your product high (say $129 for Snow Leopard) and many people will balk but there will be an air of value that permeates.
B. Price your product low (say $29 for Snow Leopard) and people will naturally gravitate to wanting to devalue it. "Well if it's only $29 then why not make it free since you must not value it much"
Operating Systems are designed for the masses so some features like Exchange support (which frankly means nothing for me) will be deal clinchers for some and not others.
I can see what's rapidly going to happen here. Developers that still support PPC will stay with standard Leopard in their apps. Developers with Intel only apps will quickly migrate to Snow Leopard as they don't need to worry about PPC support.
And with trim and export features the only thing I really need from the new Quicktime that is in Pro is the ability to save things like trailers from the web.
Why isn't Snow Leopard free?
This is in part created by a natural conundrum that occurs with pricing.
A. Price your product high (say $129 for Snow Leopard) and many people will balk but there will be an air of value that permeates.
B. Price your product low (say $29 for Snow Leopard) and people will naturally gravitate to wanting to devalue it. "Well if it's only $29 then why not make it free since you must not value it much"
Operating Systems are designed for the masses so some features like Exchange support (which frankly means nothing for me) will be deal clinchers for some and not others.
I can see what's rapidly going to happen here. Developers that still support PPC will stay with standard Leopard in their apps. Developers with Intel only apps will quickly migrate to Snow Leopard as they don't need to worry about PPC support.
Just last night I went to apple.com/trailers, clicked on a 1080p trailer for a movie and right away, QuickTime X opened and started to load the trailer. Once it was fully loaded, I then went to File->Save. It took about a minute or two, but it ended up saving right into my Movies folder.
Not sure if that's what you're talking about or referring to, but it does seem that nearly all of the old QuickTime Pro features are now in QuickTime X. I'll have to find another embedded QuickTime video on a web page and see if it lets me save it to my hard drive. If that works, then I'll know for sure the saving feature is built-in.
Then they are wrong. Signifigant changes were made to Snow Leopard to make it what it is today - Not much visual, but over 90% of the Apps were we-written to some degree. It is a major overhaul and not anywhere near a "service pack".
Service packs in the windows world are collections of bug fixes and some minor performance tuning. Akin to 10.5.7 that was just recently released. People claimed Leopard in of itself was "just a service pack" and were wrong back then. If anybody claims that Snow Leopard is "just a service pack" than they are mis-understanding what really happened because they are focusing on the "putting the pause button on new features" part and not listing to the major under the hood re-writes that went on.
The versioning scheme alone would prove that Snow Leopard is far from "just a service pack." (And to be fair, people who claim Windows 7 is a Vista service pack are wrong, as well.)
10.x releases are major releases.
10.x.x releases are minor releases, and are essentially "service packs."
Also, while 10.6 may not add many new end-user features, I'd argue that its underlying improvements are much more significant than most of the gimmicky features added in 10.5.
We've progressed enough.Progress and the foundation for everything that's to come?!! For the sake of $29.00 (which I'm assuming will translate to good old pounds and pence as well) is a worthy upgrade regardless.
So +1 for deffo upgrading!
Thats the most exiting thing for me too.... Does anyone know if Apple will release the Quicktime X app for Leopard ?
I'm upgrading to Leopard soon (just waiting for Amazon to deliver). I'll definitely upgrade to Snow Leopard, but it'll probably be closer to Christmas. You guys can be brave. I'll let the first wave install, then bitch, then update, then bitch some more, then update again, then sing choruses to the heavenly host.
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That is a good question. Also Windows too. They can't stay with Quicktime 7.x forever. And it would be strange to have a Quicktime 8.x that has the old interface for Windows and older Macs. My gut feeling says that it will be available but it will be like Safari 4 in that it won't have the core internals that make it better than Snow Leopard like 64-bit and using the core libraries. Any benchmarks will be unfair when comparing Windows to Snow Leopard using Safari and Quicktime.
Fixed for you.
You do make a good point though. Safari and QuickTime will just be insanely fast on Snow Leopard-equipped Macs, and it'll be because of technologies available there that aren't available on other OSes.
I'll be buying it on release day--for ~£29 you can't go wrong! Having said that, I probably will be waiting a couple of weeks before I update in case there's a significant bug
I would upgrade for this feature alone! Okay, well, maybe not, but that will be very useful
I would upgrade for this feature alone! Okay, well, maybe not, but that will be very useful
I will be at the Apple Store the day it comes out. As others have said, anyone with a modern Mac not taking advantage of this cheap, cheap upgrade is just crazy!!! I'm looking forward to getting an upgrade to the OS that greatly improves performance over gaining new features. Sure, new features are great, and Apple usually delivers on this, but performance upgrades will be great!
Not necessarily. I'll wait until I read what everybody here has to say, as well in other places like MacInTouch where compatibility issues are usually discussed in considerable detail. I can't afford to have downtime on my Mac without ensuring that key apps for work continue to function as they should, let alone peripherals and networks.
Anyone who was here during the first week or two of Leopard will know exactly what I'm talking about. I tend to jump onboard with new OS installs at about x.x.2 or .3, after third party suppliers have released patches and so forth.
When I was running a small studio, I would set up a test machine or a separate internal drive/partition first to try things out. There's nothing worse than telling a client that you haven't met a deadline because your computer isn't working properly.
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upgrading on day one from 10.4, getting the mac box set for ilife and iwork 09. won't put it on my main drive until .2-ish.
Yeah, I just have a gig of free space on my Mac mini (Intel Leopard). This would be a great update!
This will be one OS that I won't wait for the 10.x.1 update. I mean, all Apple has been doing since 2007 is fine tuning Leopard into Snow Leopard.
I'm not saying that Snow Leopard 10.6.0 will be bug free but I assume it will be the most stable release of a 10.x.0 release.
And for major speed improvements, why not pay $30. I mean, Leopard has all these amazing/convienent features, the only thing left is to speed it up, which is now Snow Leopard. Throw in some minor new features, and it's gold.
I don't know what's in store for 10.7 I can assume it will come out in late 2010/Early 2011 because 10.6 didn't end too many end-user features. Plus, I hope Apple gets back to releasing an OS every 18-24 months.
I'm not saying that Snow Leopard 10.6.0 will be bug free but I assume it will be the most stable release of a 10.x.0 release.
And for major speed improvements, why not pay $30. I mean, Leopard has all these amazing/convienent features, the only thing left is to speed it up, which is now Snow Leopard. Throw in some minor new features, and it's gold.
I don't know what's in store for 10.7 I can assume it will come out in late 2010/Early 2011 because 10.6 didn't end too many end-user features. Plus, I hope Apple gets back to releasing an OS every 18-24 months.
I'll most likely upgrade. The feature I'm looking forward to the most is the built-in Microsoft Exchange support. I use my personal macbook at work every day and I'd much rather be using iCal/mail/address book/etc instead of Entourage or Outlook on my work PC. It will be nice not to have to jump through a couple of hoops to get iCal to sync to my work's outlook calender (currently I do outlook -> some windows sync app -> google calender -> some mac sync app -> ical).
Can anybody here, who's used the betas, comment on how well it works in a Microsoft-oriented work environment? Can it really be used as a replacement for outlook/entourage? Particularly creating events/meetings though iCal, dealing with meetings in general, etc?
Can anybody here, who's used the betas, comment on how well it works in a Microsoft-oriented work environment? Can it really be used as a replacement for outlook/entourage? Particularly creating events/meetings though iCal, dealing with meetings in general, etc?
