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Windows 10 is getting some good reviews

Surface3User

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Good point. I'm also not using it over Chrome. However, I am using it a bit when before, I would avoid explorer.

I don't use Chrome because it just seems to suck battery from the laptop. It's become bloated over the years. Edge is a bit buggy, but I actually prefer it over Chrome.
 
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spinedoc77

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Well I installed this on my work PC, it's pretty cool. I ran earlier builds of the tech preview so knew what to expect. I'm disappointed they went the way of white on white UI, I am still utterly baffled and wonder if any of these companies, apple/google/Microsoft, use their devices in the dark.

Overall I don't see much of a change versus win8 on the desktop side. The start bar is semi useless, don't really care about apps and I would rather see a list of ALL my programs with menus and submenus, easy fix just installed classic start menu. Cortana seems cool, but you have to give up a ton of privacy. Not more than Google I'd suppose, so I'll probably use it. The Edge browser is completely useless, the Metro 8.1 browser was MUCH better. Although I use desktop IE11 on my desktop anyway so I switched back to that. Edge browser seems like something they would have done on win8, cram tablet use to desktop users, very odd they made it the default browser IMO.

What I'm mainly hoping for is speed improvements and efficiency, I'd be happy with that and no new features. For desktop use it seems decent, although I won't update my home system as I can't lose OneDrive placeholders, at work I use OneDrive for business which never had placeholders anyway. I won't install on my tablet either as win8.1 is much more tablet friendly.
 
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AFEPPL

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Not sure why would you click on this particular thread then as you could probably guess that there would be some fanboy discussion. Personally, I don't really participate all that much, but sometimes when I'm bored, I'll break out the popcorn and watch the fireworks.

Because even as a Mac user i can see that Win10 is pretty good.
I like it, i think its very slick and well thought out in the most. I'm liking it more than OS X right now and theres less bugs too. I'm able to balanced and objective, i don't get why others cant be was my poor point.
 
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SlCKB0Y

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I get so bored of this fanboy crap.... from all sides...

To whom are you referring? Why don't you be more clear about it instead of sitting there making vague, snide comments?

Then, if you were in any way referring to me, could you quote my supposed "fanboy crap"?
 
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AFEPPL

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it wasn't aimed at you its a "general comment" but if you want to wear the t-shirt, feel free.

This is aimed at you "devops" are not all really power users either.. just saying.. most are simply operational staff checking stuff. And yes, I've worked in devops before around enterprise apps.
 
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snow755

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google chorme sucks on window 10 google chorme this feels vary buggy on window 10 for me at lest how is google chorme on window 10 for you guys?

in other winds google chorm works vary well for window 8.1 vary stable not so stable in window 10

for example when you scoll ueseing the scoll bar the web pags can go some time from 100% too 75% or 115% but that dos not really happen with chorm in window 8.1 all so am planing on uesing edge has my main brower in window 10 and i will keep this laptop on window 8.1 am planing on getting a dell laptop on friday with window 10 per install wish is the best way too go i dont not like upgrades

here my dell laptop with per install with window 10

http://www.staples.com/Dell-Inspiron-i5558-2147BLK-Laptop-with-Windows-10/product_1738546


good deal with the laptop right now too
 
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spinedoc77

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I take back what I said about the Edge browser, it's kind of decent and I'm getting used to it. Extensions would be nice though, adblocker in particular. At first I thought it was too much of a tablet interface, b ut the more I use it the more it makes sense. Also can't help but love the dark theme.

Only issue I've been having is scaling is terrible, I wish they copied Macs in that respect. I have a 4k monitor and a 1600x1200 laptop screen as my work monitors and it's tough to get scaling. Even if scaled decently the menus, favorites, etc are still tiny and the blurriness is insane. What's sad is that most of windows stuff is blurry, things like property windows and such.
 
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LadyX

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I had no idea a lot of people use extensions. I use Google Chrome but I don't have any extensions installed. Guess I'm the only one.
 
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ozaz

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I had no idea a lot of people use extensions. I use Google Chrome but I don't have any extensions installed. Guess I'm the only one.

Quite possibly. I have about 10, with 2-3 being extensions that are extremely valuable to me.
So I suppose you don't bother with a password manager like 1Password or LastPass?
 
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LadyX

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Quite possibly. I have about 10, with 2-3 being extensions that are extremely valuable to me.
So I suppose you don't bother with a password manager like 1Password or LastPass?

Nope.
 
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I had no idea a lot of people use extensions. I use Google Chrome but I don't have any extensions installed. Guess I'm the only one.
You're not alone, I don't use them on mac or windows either ..
 
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I had no idea a lot of people use extensions. I use Google Chrome but I don't have any extensions installed. Guess I'm the only one.
Not the only one, but i find one or two to be very useful.
 
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SlCKB0Y

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it wasn't aimed at you its a "general comment" but if you want to wear the t-shirt, feel free.

If you'd taken the time to read any of my replies you'd notice I was simply replying to "Suckfest 9001" after they stated unequivocally that no serious work could be done with OS X, that no one with any expertise would use it, and that it was a "toy OS".

Strange that this person is now wholeheartedly giving your posts thumbs up.

This is aimed at you "devops" are not all really power users either.. just saying.. most are simply operational staff checking stuff. And yes, I've worked in devops before around enterprise apps.

Well either you simply don't understand what devops is or there is a large difference between the implementation in your company and mine.

Devops is the intersection of development/programming and high-level sysadmin stuff with a heavy focus on automation using tools such as puppet or chef. Most of my staff are very experienced in things such as bash scripting, python, perl, c, java, Linux/BSD/UNIX, networking, HA, virtualisation, clustering, distributed filesystems (ceph).

Their aim is to continually improve operations by identifying issues or inefficiencies and leveraging their development experience to design, implement, test, deploy and automate a solution. Knowing that you will play a hand in managing the solution is a big motivator to develop it correctly the first time around. They work with clients who make a big deal when their infrastructure suffers sub-second downtime.

We have level 1 support muppets who "are simply operational staff checking stuff".
 
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AFEPPL

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I can't speak for others, regardless of if they provide a thumbs up or not to a post - clearly you are at level that not only can you speak for others, you can also interpret their meanings without even knowing them. I'm impressed, you must be a great employee to have on the team :rolleyes:

The scale and size you talk about are not large by any stretch - i know what devops do and don't do thanks. That's just not power users. I have no comment on "toy OS", or why you would or would not "use OS X" - i didn't make the comments so pls don't atribute them to me, thanks in advance!
 
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I did request that my newly ordered gaming pc will have windows 10. A friend has windows 8 via parallels, that's the only time that I got in touch with it and I did not like it, so we will see about 10.
 
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SlCKB0Y

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i know what devops do and don't do thanks. That's just not power users.

So when you worked in devops what did your typical day involve? What sort of tasks?

Whats your skill set and education/knowledge?

How would you define a "power user"?

I'm genuinely interested...
 
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AFEPPL

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I worked on the largest data warehouse project, I worked on the Hadron Collider, I've worked for/with Many of the fortune 100 companies doing very large SAP/Oracle/DB2 projects as well as many of the Global System Integrators, IBM, Accenture, CSC, DD,... implementing/designing/rolling out systems including some for a fruity technology company..
 
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mrex

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i installed win10 on yesterday by MCT. and i dont understand the fuss. it is... ehm... just like a win8.1 with horrendous default colours that you change immediately... and turn off every privacy related sharings.. but... it is just another windows. maybe it is better for tablets but on my laptop i dont see much differences (i already booted my laptop straight to the desktop and used start-button on win8).
 
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spinedoc77

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I'm quite impressed with how WIn10 handles a 2nd display. You can independently change DPI, text size, UI size, and even what the taskbar shows!! I liked it so much I picked up a 4k monitor to use as my 2nd monitor at work and it's pretty awesome with the windows settings.

I'm definitely warming up to Win10, especially since I cancelled my OneDrive for business account (what a piece of crap that was) and don't have to deal with that anymore. I still think it's only good for desktop, I will never give up metro IE11 until they fix Edge and make it work with tablets.
 
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ozaz

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i installed win10 on yesterday by MCT. and i dont understand the fuss. it is... ehm... just like a win8.1 with horrendous default colours that you change immediately... and turn off every privacy related sharings.. but... it is just another windows. maybe it is better for tablets but on my laptop i dont see much differences (i already booted my laptop straight to the desktop and used start-button on win8).

I don't know about that.

I just starting using it yesterday, but already I feel several limitations & poor design aspects in Windows 8.1 have been significantly improved

- Choice of start menu or start screen. User decides.
- Windowed dont-call-me-metro apps
- Improvement of core apps (especially Mail & Calendar)
- Removal of Charms
- Settings panel much better than Settings in 8.1

And the following adds new features that I think will be useful on laptop/desktop

- Cortana digital assistant
- Task view
- Virtual desktops
- Snap Assist
- Notification centre
- Quick access tab in Windows Explorer with frequently accessed files & folders
- Can now ctrl+v into command prompt window (yes, this took until 2015 to happen!)
- Per-monitor display scaling
- Native Print to PDF support
- Improvements to File History restore process

I also think the inclusion of a dedicated Windows feedback app is a really positive advance. Giving feedback about Windows (and Microsoft products in general) is something that has been generally difficult to do until recently. Microsoft never had a web page like the Apple feedback web page for example.
 
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zhenya

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I upgraded my Surface Pro 3 on release day and have been very happy with it. Yes, there are a few things from 8.1 that are missing from 10, but overall the experience is just much more polished. I haven't had enough time to say for sure how the under-the-hood stuff will perform long-term, but we have found very few incompatibilities from our tools and programs that were 8.1 compatible, so I'm not expecting any issues there. The UI and visual look is the best Windows has ever had, IMO.

I'm using Edge, and while I miss some of the extensions, overall it's a very good start. I actually had some significant issues with IE11 on my Surface - with my normal dozen or so tabs open, every 24-48 hours, tabs would stop loading content and reload to a white page until I restarted the browser. So far that isn't happening in Edge.

Like Spinedoc says above - the scaling is MUCH improved. I have a 4k monitor I dock the Surface to - bought specifically because of how poorly 8.1 handled scaling - but in 10 I'm now able to move the 4k monitor down to 125% gaining me a bunch of real estate and finally making it feel like a bigger workspace instead of just a sharper one. When things do get blurry, MS has improved the algorithm so it's at least livable until I get around to logging out for some other purpose.

Battery life seems to be marginally improved, but hard to say for sure there. It's still nothing like I'd want it to be, and I think that Microsoft could go further in giving the user more real-time tools to isolate which apps are energy hogs the way the OS X does. There are plenty of apps I'd only open on an as-needed basis if I could confirm exactly how much their contribution to the poor battery life was.
 
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