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Windows 10 Upgrade Thread
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I did not wait for Microsoft to get the W10 upgrade and downloaded the W10 Pro 64-Bit ISO. Absolutely no ( more ) issues here. My MBP 7.1 runs perfect with W10 Pro now.
The issues I had have been to find recent working W10 device drivers, my MBP is not supported by Apple to run W8/8.1/10. Another issues have been the installation of 2 W10 service releases rolled out by MS Windows update. MS fixed the service release issues already.
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I got a notification saying Windows 10 was ready to install on my laptop on 7/30. It said everything is compatible!!! Well, one program doesn't work, but it's a useless program to me.
I did the upgrade, and then downloaded Windows 10 Pro 64-bit ISO and did a clean install. Windows was automatically activated.
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This worked for me, you can force the download:
"cmd" in Start (Windows 7), command: wuauclt.exe /updatenow
Than wait 5-10 minutes and start windows update. The Windows 10 upgrade should appear.
If it doesn't work try again the command.
If you are tired of waiting for the update to show up, download Windows 10 iso and mount it inside windows 7/8 and run the setup. Select upgrade.
BTW my 2011 iMac is running Windows 10 flawlessly with Bootcamp 6 and only the needed drivers. SATA AHCI mode has also been successfully enabled.
BTW my 2011 iMac is running Windows 10 flawlessly with Bootcamp 6 and only the needed drivers. SATA AHCI mode has also been successfully enabled.
Not sure if anybody's replied to you yet, but I'm also running an '08 Mac with Windows 10 . . . No problems 
Mind you, I did an upgrade from Windows 8.1, so my already existing Boot Camp drivers were piggy-backed along and ensured seamless compatibility.
Ideas for you? Download the older version of Boot Camp (for Windows 7) and extract the drivers from there. It's not so hard, just go digging around the folders: \BootCamp\Drivers\Apple\AppleKeyboardInstaller64.exe
Then double-click on that package only, your keyboard will be up and running in no time
Mind you, I did an upgrade from Windows 8.1, so my already existing Boot Camp drivers were piggy-backed along and ensured seamless compatibility.
Ideas for you? Download the older version of Boot Camp (for Windows 7) and extract the drivers from there. It's not so hard, just go digging around the folders: \BootCamp\Drivers\Apple\AppleKeyboardInstaller64.exe
Then double-click on that package only, your keyboard will be up and running in no time
I didn't think I was particularly stupid when it came to Windows in Boot Camp, but I guess so... I can't get it to work...
Windows 8.1 is running on my external SSD (connected via Thunderbolt), and I get to it by using the Option-key when booting. I also get to it via Parallels 10 from inside OSX 10.10.5.
In Windows I have the "Upgrade Icon", but when I try to update that way, it says I have an incompatible driver, the Parallels Display Adapter, and stops.
I then downloaded the Windows 10 64-bit ISO, and I created a USB stick using the Boot Camp Assistant, including the updated Boot Camp drivers etc. However, when I run setup.exe on that USB stick, when booted up in Windows 8.1, it seems to be starting from scratch, with a new installation of Windows 10???
What is the right procedure here? I guess I could start from scratch, but I have a lot of big games downloaded (Steam and EA), and it would take forever to reinstall all.
Any advice is appreciated...
Windows 8.1 is running on my external SSD (connected via Thunderbolt), and I get to it by using the Option-key when booting. I also get to it via Parallels 10 from inside OSX 10.10.5.
In Windows I have the "Upgrade Icon", but when I try to update that way, it says I have an incompatible driver, the Parallels Display Adapter, and stops.
I then downloaded the Windows 10 64-bit ISO, and I created a USB stick using the Boot Camp Assistant, including the updated Boot Camp drivers etc. However, when I run setup.exe on that USB stick, when booted up in Windows 8.1, it seems to be starting from scratch, with a new installation of Windows 10???
What is the right procedure here? I guess I could start from scratch, but I have a lot of big games downloaded (Steam and EA), and it would take forever to reinstall all.
Any advice is appreciated...
OK - I give up... I made a new installation media (USB stick) with Windows 10, and the updated Boot Camp drivers etc. on it. I then booted into Windows 8.1 and started the setup. I went along with the installation and it eventually booted into WIndows 10. It had performed a new install, not an upgrade, but OK, I could move the big folders with Steam and EA games from the old Windows 8.1 installation (which was saved in a "Windows OLD" folder.
However, when I had installed the Boot Camp software, and the Mac Pro was rebooting, it BSOD 3 times in a row, with the Cache_Manager error.
I have restored my Windows 8.1 on the external SSD, and will not try that again...
However, when I had installed the Boot Camp software, and the Mac Pro was rebooting, it BSOD 3 times in a row, with the Cache_Manager error.
I have restored my Windows 8.1 on the external SSD, and will not try that again...
What is your message ? That you cannot update Windows on an external SSD when Windows cannot boot from external drives normally ?
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My message is that although Windows 8.1 runs fine on an external SSD, there seems to be problems with Windows 10. And, that I am sure there is a way to upgrade Windows 8.1 -> 10, I just haven't figured it out yet, and was hoping someone said "you just need to do this..."
Perhaps it has been too long since I had to struggle with Windows, but I seem to remember there was an update way, as supposed to an install? And if so, then how do I initiate that from the WININSTALL USB stick generated by Boot Camp assistant?
Perhaps it has been too long since I had to struggle with Windows, but I seem to remember there was an update way, as supposed to an install? And if so, then how do I initiate that from the WININSTALL USB stick generated by Boot Camp assistant?
I installed Windows 10 on my cMac Pro recently by downloading the iso disk image.
(2009 Mac Pro 4,1 (with 5,1 firmware) 2.66 quad, 20 GB RAM, AMD Radeon 6870 flashed for Mac)
I updated a 64bit Windows 7 installation on a dedicated hard drive. After the install I re-applied Boot Camp 5.1.5621 from a USB thumb drive. I then went through all the Windows 10 privacy settings changes that many are recommending. I fired up Max Payne 3, and GTA V, and they played as well as they did in Windows 7. Phew!
Everything was working right from the get-go. Activation, GPU, USB 3 card, dual monitor setup, everything works exactly as it did in Win 7.
I attempted to use Parallels 10 after I booted back into OS X Yosemite 10.10.5, and it gave a warning that I could experience activation issues if I continue, so I got scared and baled out. Hopefully a Parallels update will allow me to use it without those issues.
I am quite impressed with Windows 10, privacy issues aside. It’s certainly a nice upgrade from Windows 7 (I’ve never used Windows 8) and it seems like a good OS for gaming with Boot Camp. 90% of my time in Windows is for gaming, so if I have to revert to Windows 7 for some reason, it’s not the end of the world. I have WinClone backups of my Windows 7 install just in case.
I’ll report back if find anything wonky, but I have to say “thanks”, this forum makes life a lot easier in these situations. Glad I came across it.
(2009 Mac Pro 4,1 (with 5,1 firmware) 2.66 quad, 20 GB RAM, AMD Radeon 6870 flashed for Mac)
I updated a 64bit Windows 7 installation on a dedicated hard drive. After the install I re-applied Boot Camp 5.1.5621 from a USB thumb drive. I then went through all the Windows 10 privacy settings changes that many are recommending. I fired up Max Payne 3, and GTA V, and they played as well as they did in Windows 7. Phew!
Everything was working right from the get-go. Activation, GPU, USB 3 card, dual monitor setup, everything works exactly as it did in Win 7.
I attempted to use Parallels 10 after I booted back into OS X Yosemite 10.10.5, and it gave a warning that I could experience activation issues if I continue, so I got scared and baled out. Hopefully a Parallels update will allow me to use it without those issues.
I am quite impressed with Windows 10, privacy issues aside. It’s certainly a nice upgrade from Windows 7 (I’ve never used Windows 8) and it seems like a good OS for gaming with Boot Camp. 90% of my time in Windows is for gaming, so if I have to revert to Windows 7 for some reason, it’s not the end of the world. I have WinClone backups of my Windows 7 install just in case.
I’ll report back if find anything wonky, but I have to say “thanks”, this forum makes life a lot easier in these situations. Glad I came across it.
Same for me... After installing BC6 my wireless keyboard stopped working. In the bluetooth preferences my keyboard shows up but says that there is a driver error. Looking in the device manager, there is a yellow warning triangel next to one of the Apple keyboard entries and when checking the properties it says something about "Code 10". Can't update this driver it seems, as it says it is the latest when I try, and there does not appear to be an older version to roll back to. Did you find a solution to get the keyboard up and running again?
Did you see this?
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/mi...nguage=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2126929
They say the Windows 10 installation has a problem with virtual display drivers.
The article is from VMware but they say it applies to Parallels also.
You're supposed to remove the virtual drivers and do the install using plain VGA.
Then put the virtual display drivers back after 10 is installed.
I'm trying it at this very minute and I've got my fingers crossed that it will work.
There's a very interesting and heated thread on Parallels Forums, named "Windows 10 Bootcamp VM can't validate!", it's several pages long. A couple of the main points in I've gleaned from that thread...
- Trying to have a Boot Camp partition and a virtual machine of Windows 10 is causing major activation issues. The new Parallels 11 update does not help with this issue, as it seems that Microsoft has changed their activation procedures.
- The just released Parallels 11 update has had a few features removed from it, and those features are now only available in the "pro" version which costs more. The non-pro version now has an 8 GB VM memory limit, and the "roll-back" feature has been removed. Many users are not pleased.
Near the end of the thread there is some hopeful news. It appears there's one or two people that have both their Boot Camp partition, and their VM activated simultaneously.
It would make sense that these same activation issues are being seen with VMware Fusion, but I haven't heard that that is the case.
- Trying to have a Boot Camp partition and a virtual machine of Windows 10 is causing major activation issues. The new Parallels 11 update does not help with this issue, as it seems that Microsoft has changed their activation procedures.
- The just released Parallels 11 update has had a few features removed from it, and those features are now only available in the "pro" version which costs more. The non-pro version now has an 8 GB VM memory limit, and the "roll-back" feature has been removed. Many users are not pleased.
Near the end of the thread there is some hopeful news. It appears there's one or two people that have both their Boot Camp partition, and their VM activated simultaneously.
It would make sense that these same activation issues are being seen with VMware Fusion, but I haven't heard that that is the case.
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After upgrading to Windows 10, both my EFI bootable Windows (converted bootcamp to EFI with Winclone) and the VMware Fusion side were activated without any issues. You'll just have to be patient for the MS servers to activate your installs!
Cheers
Cheers
I too am using VMware "Fusion" and have 4 desktop Macs running Windows 10 with dual-access (bootable and virtual machine in OS X to the same installed image) with activation. I also have 2 notebook Macs which have VM only installations updated to Windows 10 and activated. It wasn't easy in a couple of cases ... but it is all done and seems to be working fine at this time.
In my case, I updated the bootable Windows first, then created a new VM of that bootable installation. I did have to go back and forth a couple of times for the activation to complete in both access methods.
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Bootcamp 6 update is not showing up in the apple software update in Windows 7 on my 2012 retina Macbook Pro 15". I cannot seem to install the previous update either when trying it manually. The dialog box tells me that this version is not supported on this computer. What the hell? It certainly should be. Is it because I installed Nvidia's drivers for the 650M? Should I try to remove them?
I get the occasional CACHE_MANAGER blue screens on Windows 8.1. I did a hardware test and it said there could be an issue with the SMC. So I reset it (search for instructions on the Apple support pages) and the issue in Windows has gone.
That's odd since I have been using the Windows 10 insider preview since March with VMWare Fusion without any issues.
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Sorry for the perhaps somewhat confusing post!
No just the Windows boot SSD, then fired the SSD up in the VM and had to update VMWare Tools due to the VGA driver issue.
With the Windows 10 Technical Previews - only in VM - I've never had any issues what so ever. Upgrading to the RTM is something much harder in my case, losing most of my applications/settings!
Cheers
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What's the cheapest way to get Windows 10? I'm tempted to just buy it and be done but I'm thinking buying 7 or 8 might be cheaper?
I have a laptop with 8.1 but the key wouldn't work when I tried installing it in boot camp. Guessing it can only be used on one machine.
I have a laptop with 8.1 but the key wouldn't work when I tried installing it in boot camp. Guessing it can only be used on one machine.
You shouldn't have to insert a key after updating your 8.1 install. It should activate itself after a while without entering anything, it's just that the activation servers have been busy, so it can take a couple of days.
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I found out that my rMBP was stuck on Bootcamp 4. I managed to find an early bootcamp 5 download (the later ones weren't working) and installed that. Then I managed to upgrade that to a later bootcamp 5, but I still can't get it to upgrade to Bootcamp 6.
On the Mac Pro Bootcamp 6 wasn't showing up in the Apple Software Update, so I used the manual method of downloading it via bootcamp assistant. The Bootcamp upgrade worked, but I still haven't managed to upgrade Windows. I tried the Windows Update method and it failed twice with an error - searching for it yielded nothing, apart from advice to try again. The best bit is that it starts from the download from scratch.
I then tried the Windows ISO maker route. The update downloaded and then it failed to format the USB stick, despite the fact that it works perfectly and I can format it any time. So I have just downloaded Windows 10 for the 4th time. This time I am trying the ISO + USB download tool (https://wudt.codeplex.com/)
On the Mac Pro Bootcamp 6 wasn't showing up in the Apple Software Update, so I used the manual method of downloading it via bootcamp assistant. The Bootcamp upgrade worked, but I still haven't managed to upgrade Windows. I tried the Windows Update method and it failed twice with an error - searching for it yielded nothing, apart from advice to try again. The best bit is that it starts from the download from scratch.
I then tried the Windows ISO maker route. The update downloaded and then it failed to format the USB stick, despite the fact that it works perfectly and I can format it any time. So I have just downloaded Windows 10 for the 4th time. This time I am trying the ISO + USB download tool (https://wudt.codeplex.com/)
No, he is trying to use the OEM key from a Windows laptop to install Windows 8 using Bootcamp on a Mac. That will not work and has nothing to do with the activation servers. OEM keys are not transferrable, unless you live in certain European countries, such as Germany. You could potentially get this to work, if you format the laptop and then phone MS. They may reset the key, but they may not, after you've promised that you will only run one copy of Windows using the key.
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