Unless you have data otherwise I believe the Xbox division is now profitable. For years it was not but I thinks they dug out of that a few years ago. Also Game Pass subscribers just passed 23 million and is rapidly growing. It is not a cheap subscription.
Because I like MacOS. It's only at home though, I only use Windows at work. I have 2 Macs and 2 Windows machines at home, but I tend not to switch machines if I can do what I need on whatever machine I'm using at the time.
You apparently don't know any Mac users anywhere close to where I live or that work in businesses like I work in.
x86/x64 Windows, yes, I can and do own licenses.
I get what you’re saying here, or at least why you’re saying it. But what I find odd is that I used an old Windows 10 Pro license that I purchased in 2018, and am using it to license a Windows 10 Pro ARM VM created with the initial Parallels Tech Preview for the M1 Macs. And then just recently updated to Win11. Yes, Parallels is able to run it all, and do it well. But it’s Microsoft that’s accepted the use of the License Key I purchased from them. Not Parallels. If that were to break some kind of “agreement” with Microsoft, you’d think they’d have a better system in place to detect the CPU in use for that (virtual) machine. The “About” section clearly shows it’s the ARM version. If they don’t allow it, why did they…. allow it?
Thanks. There's been so many twists and turns in this discussion it's hard to keep track of who meant what. I hope MS does license ARM Windows for retail use; but don't see that in the near future. When I upgrade I guess my old MBP will become a dedicated Windows machine or at least Bootcamped so I can run PowerBI and Office when needed.
All it's doing for you is activating the WoA install, not licensing it. Licensing and activation are 2 different things.
I sure hope so too! I too think it's a long shot near term. Microsoft is trying to control WoA like Apple does with the M1, and you can't even run a M1 MacOS VM on an M1 Mac...
Oh yeah that kills off ALL legacy app support. Gotta keep a Windows 10 PC around like forever. (iTunes 12.6.5.3)
Yeah but for many personal users, just activating it is good enough.
More like they aren't worth going after. Microsoft could kill it for everyone easily enough just by closing the insider program for WoA, but they're syphoning beta OS information off of us with it, so that's *probably* not going to happen.
I don't understand what you're saying here at all and it doesn't go with what I said.
Wait, so does it mean Microsoft will essentially render all insider build of Windows on Mac (through VM) inoperable once Windows 11 goes to general availability?
Not being able to virtualise macOS on M1 Mac means several years down the line, applications that are developed today would no longer be usable because the supported macOS version where those application could run can no longer be installed on new macs.
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Probably not where you live no. Working in IT at a company with just over 5K employees we have around 300 Mac’s? Zero run Windows on a Mac in at format. 99% Of those users do not have a Windows computer either.Because I like MacOS. It's only at home though, I only use Windows at work. I have 2 Macs and 2 Windows machines at home, but I tend not to switch machines if I can do what I need on whatever machine I'm using at the time.
You apparently don't know any Mac users anywhere close to where I live or that work in businesses like I work in.
But that's not happening, just the OS on *Arm hardware* is what they are controlling, not what runs in the OS.
There's the difference, I don't work at an IT company, just a manufacturer that doesn't make computers -- me and the head electrician are the only computer geeks in the whole company. Normals don't care about OS, they just want a computer like what they use at work and what they use at work is Windows. And fwiw, that electrician doesn't use a Mac either, he runs Linux.
I think the issue we were running into with the previous discussion was what qualifies as part of the Xbox division vs the collective Microsoft Gaming. Microsoft has been very careful about its wording when describing revenue, which is reasonable behavior for a publicly-traded company. MS gaming is profitable, I agree, but I have not been convinced the Xbox division itself would survive if spun off into its own company. The question is, is Game Pass part of the Xbox division, or their overarching Gaming Division that Xbox is part of. The inclusion of PC Game Pass makes me think it compliments Xbox, but shouldn't be treated as part of it.
What are you talking about? You can buy Windows 10.
That's only for the x86/x64 version -- try and buy the Arm version from that...What are you talking about? You can buy Windows 10.
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Well, again, fwiw I’m able to use the key I purchased from Microsoft for Windows 10 Pro and Activate an ARM version of Win10 in a VM. And yes I understand the difference between Activation and Licensing. But considering the differences in the agreement like being able to use your product key twice if both Activations are VM’s. Which is great, by the way, being able to set up a machine a specific way and then clone it and reactivate. I don’t see Microsoft just flipping a switch and rendering a decent install base useless just because a beta testing period might be completed. I’m sure they’ll offer a path. Or something. It’s their business.
My main Mac is an Intel Mac Mini that is quite capable of running multiple VM's.
I've only tried things like crossover on my M1 Mac, and when I'm using Linux.