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OSX does that too

Yes, but only the first time you run it, not every time you run it!

Vista 64 has been very stable for me, it's just such a pain in the A$$ to use. They changed the explorer, I had to dig around just to find my damn NAS.

Lots of little things that bug you all add up to a not worthwhile experience.

I haven't even bothered to look an Windows 7. I'm done with the pain, I spent too many years chasing my tail with them.
 
very true.

And it is a good thing too!

Many people are too caviler about downloading and installing applications, regardless of how they ended up on their desktop, or what they may do.

A little reality check here and there is good!

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I don't like the transparent windows. And that doc is UUUUUGLY.

Of course when i played with longhorn a few years ago it looked like XP.

hopefully microsoft will have there sense knocked back in them after vista, and make the UI easily skinable. Without the use of a 3rd party app. I hate the windows Areo theme
 
I was far more impressed with it before it became (effectively) a Service Pack for Windows Vista.

I shall now pass on it and hope that maybe Microsoft is willing to take the risk Apple did and re-write the OS from the ground-up with Windows 8 as they had talked of doing with Windows 7 before Vista became a perjorative.

Apple was willing to bet the company by moving from System 9 to OS X. Microsoft should do the same, especially since they have the luxury of forcing 75% or more of the machines shipped around the planet to include a license for it, anyway.
 
I don't think they really need to do a total rewrite of their OS like Mac did with Mac OS 9 -> OS X, I don't think they need to stray away from DOS, I don't think they really need to do anything significant except for optimize their coding for better performance, get rid of some of the unnecessary background processing, and optimize better memory usage with Vista.
 
Not gonna lie. That looks pretty sweet lookin'.

I agree. I know this is a Mac forum so that automatically means a vast majority of you will hate it, but I think it looks good. Windows 7 looks like it's going to be very solid. They're being more aggressive too (for example, the new taskbar cannot be changed in Windows 7, meaning you can't go back to the old-school style).

I find it funny that some people will STILL complain even when Microsoft is answering their prayers. They're making this much slimmer (it runs on EeePCs, and run on 1 GB of RAM which is nothing now-a-days).

That said, I'm very excited about Snow Leopard.
 
From the screenshots I've seen, it looks a lot more unix-y.

Isn't Windows 7 supposed to be a completely new OS, without all the legacy coding?

Its based entirely on vista (the kernal i think?), but theyve fixed something, because by all accounts its going to be a very nice OS.
 
Its based entirely on vista (the kernal i think?), but theyve fixed something, because by all accounts its going to be a very nice OS.

Vista and nice OS should not be used in the same sentence, EVER.

My one complaint with Vista that I've seen, other than the fact it's Windows, is the change in file browsing. Its incredibly annoying, and can be handled much, much, much better.
 
Vista and nice OS should not be used in the same sentence, EVER.

My one complaint with Vista that I've seen, other than the fact it's Windows, is the change in file browsing. Its incredibly annoying, and can be handled much, much, much better.

I just get annoyed with the constant crashing of explorer, then not having sound after it comes back (only takes ~3 seconds). Its like the exact opposite of OSX.

In OSX its the little things that make it such an enjoyable OS.

In vista its the little flaws that ANNOY ME TO NO END.
 
I think it will be like windows xp was to 2000. Or a step up. I like using windows vista so I hope its just a faster running version. I have never had a crash with Vista since day 1. I am lucky I guess. I had firefox crash but not windows. Xp crashes way more.
 
Your sig is wrong.

I know the last time I was close to 500 posts I was banned because they thought I was over posting. I thought 485 posts was kind of low for almost 3 years. I have 11,000 on a hockey forum. Instead of reading my posts to see if it was just a post count bump they just removed them didn't tell me what was going on and banned me for a month.
 
From the screenshots I've seen, it looks a lot more unix-y.

Isn't Windows 7 supposed to be a completely new OS, without all the legacy coding?

No. Windows 7 is sort of a "this is what we cut from Vista" release. It's considered internally a maintenance update—a refined Vista—similar to Snow Leopard.

Microsoft rewrote much of Windows code in Vista to create a more modular operating system. Vista was considered a major release. Windows 7 is not.

By the way, the current Post-PDC beta does not include the new "more transparent" Aero interface. That's coming in future builds

I just installed the pre-beta version of windows 7 on my macbook pro through parallels. This thing looks amazing. I haven't had a lot of time to mess with it, but the majority of the new features look pretty cool.

Your running the featureless post-PDC M3 build in Parallels without Aero or display acceleration and it looks cool? Really? The current "milestone" release is nothing to get excited about, and it's nowhere near "beta." It's essentially a Vista SP 1 build with some refined menus and a few half-baked new features. All the exciting stuff is yet to come.
 
I'll definitely give it a try when I can (I see the Beta Build, but I really don't want to use it until it's complete). I really wish they'd get rid of the glassy look, to be honest I think it looks ugly (though default fisher price look of windows XP isn't really better). However, that's a minor and very superficial issue and I'm sure will be solved (as I have done numerous times for the other OS) by some custom skins.
 
Its based entirely on vista (the kernal i think?), but theyve fixed something, because by all accounts its going to be a very nice OS.

Isn't that incorrect. I thought it was unix based with emulators running legacy programs.
 
And it is a good thing too!

Many people are too caviler about downloading and installing applications, regardless of how they ended up on their desktop, or what they may do.

A little reality check here and there is good!

Yeah right, those warnings are only good when in OS X. If they come from Windows, it's annoying.


Fanboy statements. Gotta love them.



Anyway, I'm using OS X and Apple hardware because I like it and I think it's the best right now. However, if either Windows or Linux ends up being better than OS X in the future (not just in terms of stability, but overall UI), I'd go with them instead.
 
Windows XP user here. Windows 7 looks like Windows Vista with a KDE taskbar, which isn't too different from OS X.

I'm sorry, to me the best OS is Windows XP and best office version is Office 2003. Further Microsoft additions (Vista, Windows 7, Office 2007) only make things more gaudy for the sacrifice of usability. Office 2007 with the ribbon will drive anyone insane.

Don't get me wrong I like Mac OS X, but I use XP because of OS X lack of support and it's Finder is inferior to Windows XP explorer. Windows Vista explorer is inferior to Windows XP explorer.

We are headed in the wrong direction.
 
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