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TheSideshow said:
I know what you mean. Things like Windows Update go to the desktop UI so you can do more with it like choose the updates when you would expect them to stay in the Metro UI.

After initial setup I don't see it as a big issue though. But during initial set up I found myself going back and forth a lot.

I too hope they have some things planned for these kinds of situations though.
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I really hope the Metro UI is not forced on us desktop laptop side. Metro is great for touch based interaction just like iOS interface is great for touch based but sucks when you kick it over keyboard and mouse layout.

12dylan34 said:
I think that the ribbon thing in Office is far too complex. I think that Apple has done it right with iWork. You click on a rectangle, it only gives you options for what you can do for that rectangle in the menu bar. You select text, it gives you options for the text. All advanced options are in the inspector, which is also dynamic based upon what you have selected. There's no sense in having every imaginable button you can push up in the menu bar. It gets too hard to find things.
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I like the ribbon compared to the older menu driven system. I have noticed people get hung up on the ribbon but once you learn it you will find it is a huge improvement over what was there before.

As for comparing iWorks to Office that is not even close. iWorks is crap when you compare it to Office in terms of power and what it can do.
 
*LTD* said:
Yes. It's what happens when you universally-license. User Experience goes out the window. MS loses control of their own product. The one they spent painstakingly long hours creating (one would hope.) It's absurd.
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No, what is absurd is when people think that adding software bundles is "losing control of their own product". WTF does adding trial software got to do with Windows itself??? NOTHING. 🙄

When you whore out your OS to anyone and their dog, you not only display a fundamental disrespect for your own product, but also for the end-user.
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Whore out your OS? 😱

That's what you call licensing software products? Does that mean Apple whores out Logic Studio and Final Cut Pro when they sell you a licensed copy??? That has to be one of the most ridiculous, not to mention utterly tasteless things I've ever read on these forums and confirms my belief once again that the Apple fanatics on here have no integrity what-so-ever.

TheSideshow said:
My boot time/computer speed was the same after a year of using the same install as when it was new. What are you on about?
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Either you are utterly clueless about Windows and how it behaves as the registry gets clogged full of crap (has happened over time to every computer I've ever seen with Windows on it) as you add software or you're trolling. Either way your post doesn't warrant a reply.

Don't talk on things you dont know about.
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I'll try not to talk "on" things I "dont" know about. You should do the same since you seem utterly clueless on the subject. 🙄
 
MagnusVonMagnum said:
No, what is absurd is when people think that adding software bundles is "losing control of their own product". WTF does adding trial software got to do with Windows itself??? NOTHING. 🙄



Whore out your OS? 😱

That's what you call licensing software products? Does that mean Apple whores out Logic Studio and Final Cut Pro when they sell you a licensed copy??? That has to be one of the most ridiculous, not to mention utterly tasteless things I've ever read on these forums and confirms my belief once again that the Apple fanatics on here have no integrity what-so-ever.



Either you are utterly clueless about Windows and how it behaves as the registry gets clogged full of crap (has happened over time to every computer I've ever seen with Windows on it) as you add software or you're trolling. Either way your post doesn't warrant a reply.



I'll try not to talk "on" things I "dont" know about. You should do the same since you seem utterly clueless on the subject. 🙄
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What? My computer literally ran at the same speed after a year of use. How do I not know this? It was my experience.

It's easy to tell if you reinstall an os and you see no speed gain from it at all.

Is there a reason you are taking it so personal?
 
MagnusVonMagnum said:
Whore out your OS? 😱

That's what you call licensing software products? Does that mean Apple whores out Logic Studio and Final Cut Pro when they sell you a licensed copy???
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OEMs. Obviously.

You wasted all those question marks. 🙁
 
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Rodimus Prime said:
As for comparing iWorks to Office that is not even close. iWorks is crap when you compare it to Office in terms of power and what it can do.
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A lot of things are crap if you judge them based on what you think they should do as opposed to what they were designed to do.
 
BaldiMac said:
A lot of things are crap if you judge them based on what you think they should do as opposed to what they were designed to do.
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Never mind that most of corporate America relies on MS Office to do real work. They should just all switch over to Macs and iWork to satisfy you.
 
*LTD* said:
They also rely on old Dells running XP. IT departments are all about doing the most in the cheapest possible way. What's your point?
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Unluckily XP is about to be strangled like it or not, and it seems its either Windows 7 or 8 thats about to replace it.
 
BaldiMac said:
A lot of things are crap if you judge them based on what you think they should do as opposed to what they were designed to do.
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I was not the one who stated that iWorks was a replacement for Office.

iWorks is no replacement for Office and it is not even close to being a replacement for Office.

*LTD* said:
They also rely on old Dells running XP. IT departments are all about doing the most in the cheapest possible way. What's your point?
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Clearly someone does not understand Dells Latitude and business lines are very good computers compared to the low end stuff.

Also the reason they run XP is not because of cost but because it puts everything on the same OS. You have to rememeber for some company the switch to Windows 7 is not just 100 or so computers but we are talking in the 10's of thousands. They plan to do it but time and dealing with issues that come up on any OS switch is not something they want to address.

I know it in many that are still running XP have windows 7 currently in testing and they are working out all the bugs and are going to do a paralleled launch of it when they have everything passing testing. That is one of the most costly ways of doing it.

LTD you never really have done IT. You do not understand it.
 
*LTD* said:
They also rely on old Dells running XP. IT departments are all about doing the most in the cheapest possible way. What's your point?
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It is not creating a desire to purchase new high margin hardware? Oh wait...

Windows 7 is finally getting pushed out here due to some group policy and SQL nonsense that I always complain about but everyone else screams compatibility issues where I find few or none.

Otherwise my iMac G4 and 2007 Macbook still chug along. LowEndMac at the next exit.
 
Eidorian said:
It is not creating a desire to purchase new high margin hardware? Oh wait...

Windows 7 is finally getting pushed out here due to some group policy and SQL nonsense that I always complain about but everyone else screams compatibility issues where I find few or none.

Otherwise my iMac G4 and 2007 Macbook still chug along. LowEndMac at the next exit.
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You don't work in IT for a large corporation, your opinion means nothing regarding this.
 
KingCrimson said:
You don't work in IT for a large corporation, your opinion means nothing regarding this.
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Small but I can understand the lack of traction to license the latest operating system. Tiger was the best. I recall denying support to users on Leopard until we sorted it out. Not that Apple made it any easier forcing it with new hardware purchases.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
I was not the one who stated that iWorks was a replacement for Office.

iWorks is no replacement for Office and it is not even close to being a replacement for Office.


Clearly someone does not understand Dells Latitude and business lines are very good computers compared to the low end stuff.

Also the reason they run XP is not because of cost but because it puts everything on the same OS. You have to rememeber for some company the switch to Windows 7 is not just 100 or so computers but we are talking in the 10's of thousands. They plan to do it but time and dealing with issues that come up on any OS switch is not something they want to address.

I know it in many that are still running XP have windows 7 currently in testing and they are working out all the bugs and are going to do a paralleled launch of it when they have everything passing testing. That is one of the most costly ways of doing it.

LTD you never really have done IT. You do not understand it.
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My employer is slowly moving to Windows 7 - when you get a new computer, it will come with 7, but I can't blame them for taking so long. We have a few hundred thousand employees, probably a thousand different applications in use across the company, and they have to make sure that every single application works as well with 7 as it does with XP or else business could come to a screeching halt - and that would be very, very bad for our 100 million or so customers.

Despite what LTD thinks, this is not an issue with Windows - it's an issue with computers in general, and the same problems would exist if we were an all Mac shop. In fact, we do have some Macs, and new versions of OS X are subject to the same certification and testing. You can't just blindly install new versions of the OS without any testing. So you're right, I bet LTD has never worked in an IT department and has no idea what he's talking about.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
LTD you never really have done IT. You do not understand it.
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No, I haven't. However, I am (was, rather) one of those forced to experience their decision-makng and Microsoft's enterprise tools for the better part of a decade, along with what I can only assume to be millions of other employees who were just ecstatic and excited (sarcasm, obviously) about these tools.

No wonder we love coming home to our Macs. The IT world that is manifested in typical offices is the ass-end of the tech user experience.

Using MS Office in the workplace is nothing to brag about. It's really about having to put up with a necessary evil. all do it because we have no choice in the matter. The enterprise sector is crying out for a serious refresh - for better, more user-centric tools that are actually a joy to use. And there is a silent movement in this direction, which will only become stronger with time. Unsurprisingly, it isn't being driven by MS.
 
*LTD* said:
They also rely on old Dells running XP. IT departments are all about doing the most in the cheapest possible way. What's your point?
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The point is most of these large organizations will be migrating to Windows 7/Office 2010 in the next 1-2 years, meaning continued big profits for MSFT! 😀😀
 
*LTD* said:
No, I haven't. However, I am (was, rather) one of those forced to experience their decision-makng and Microsoft's enterprise tools for the better part of a decade, along with what I can only assume to be millions of other employees who were just ecstatic and excited (sarcasm, obviously) about these tools.

No wonder we love coming home to our Macs. The IT world that is manifested in typical offices is the ass-end of the tech user experience.

Using MS Office in the workplace is nothing to brag about. It's really about having to put up with a necessary evil. all do it because we have no choice in the matter. The enterprise sector is crying out for a serious refresh - for better, more user-centric tools that are actually a joy to use. And there is a silent movement in this direction, which will only become stronger with time. Unsurprisingly, it isn't being driven by MS.
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Ahhh, the "silent crying out movement" argument. 🙄

Are people fooled by your lies and fallacies?
 
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