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So, I just installed Windows 8 Preview on a new VM in Parallels and it's the most confusing OS I've ever used. Maybe because I never really tried to understand or personalize it, but it was too "messy" for my liking. Anyway, I prefer Windows to just open to the desktop instead of that supposed better whatever that is that's new. I guess I'll be sticking to Windows 7 for a while.

As a side note, I can't believe Solitaire isn't in Windows 8! :mad:
 
So, I just installed Windows 8 Preview on a new VM in Parallels and it's the most confusing OS I've ever used. Maybe because I never really tried to understand or personalize it, but it was too "messy" for my liking. Anyway, I prefer Windows to just open to the desktop instead of that supposed better whatever that is that's new. I guess I'll be sticking to Windows 7 for a while.

As a side note, I can't believe Solitaire isn't in Windows 8! :mad:

i must say that it could be a little confusing for so but after using it for a while, i must say that it works for me. for one thing, it bootup way faster than windows 7 and even my OS X. it is now possible to mount ISO natively, and that is a big jump from windows 7. although there are tools available online that does the same thing, but doesn't being able to do it natively make it better? i admit it long overdue. and it also have something like Preview but still isn't as good as OSX's preview

Solitaire is not install natively but could be found in the app store with a whole new look.

and with the success of mac app store, it is no wonder that microsoft is following in the same direction by having a app store too.
 
i wanted to try but need a stable system for use. simply doesn't enough lugging two notebook out.

do let us know if it works better.
no luck so far. Nvidia installer says no compatible hardware found, and when I was stepping thru attempted manual install the system froze again.... :mad:
 
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no luck so far. Nvidia installer says no compatible hardware found, and when I was stepping thru attempted manual install when system froze again.... :mad:

that is crap then.

i believe even intel has been graphic card support or at least the generic one will work for intel
 
hopefully these updated nvidia drivers will get to windows update soon, or someone will figure out how to make these work...
 
I've been trying it for a while now and it runs well enough. To its credit Windows 8 seems like a capable tablet OS, and its interface makes it good for use on a second monitor.

However, I just can't stand it as a desktop OS. I could go on for ages about it, but the fact is you essentially have two choices in how to use it; you either try to avoid Metro and use everything in desktop mode, in which case you essentially have a version of Windows 7 that's more annoying to use than ever.
Otherwise you have to try to embrace the Metro future that Microsoft is forcing upon everyone, but the change between desktop and Metro is just too jarring; you're essentially switching between two different OSes, which ends up being more of a disruption than a complement to a normal workflow. I've been trying it for a while and it just doesn't get any easier, you just learn to live it, which isn't the same thing.


Really when it comes down to it I don't see why Windows 8 and Metro aren't just two separate entities, as the forced amalgamation just means that neither is as good as it should be. Besides which, it doesn't really make sense to bolt Metro onto the existing Windows system as it really is more of a separate entity, that would stand better if it had been able to shrug off all the bloat that Windows has accumulated, rather than trying to run on top of it. They're ultimately just two very different OSes forced into some kind of nonsensical hybrid, making the combination much more of an annoyance than a benefit.

So yeah; I think I'm going to be sticking with Windows 7, as whatever ludicrous price is required to upgrade to Windows 8 will not be worth it for a desktop machine.

The only things I really like are the improved performance (startup is very quick) and the image + gestures as a password, but for me usability comes first.
 
I've been trying it for a while now and it runs well enough. To its credit Windows 8 seems like a capable tablet OS, and its interface makes it good for use on a second monitor.

However, I just can't stand it as a desktop OS. I could go on for ages about it, but the fact is you essentially have two choices in how to use it; you either try to avoid Metro and use everything in desktop mode, in which case you essentially have a version of Windows 7 that's more annoying to use than ever.
Otherwise you have to try to embrace the Metro future that Microsoft is forcing upon everyone, but the change between desktop and Metro is just too jarring; you're essentially switching between two different OSes, which ends up being more of a disruption than a complement to a normal workflow. I've been trying it for a while and it just doesn't get any easier, you just learn to live it, which isn't the same thing.


Really when it comes down to it I don't see why Windows 8 and Metro aren't just two separate entities, as the forced amalgamation just means that neither is as good as it should be. Besides which, it doesn't really make sense to bolt Metro onto the existing Windows system as it really is more of a separate entity, that would stand better if it had been able to shrug off all the bloat that Windows has accumulated, rather than trying to run on top of it. They're ultimately just two very different OSes forced into some kind of nonsensical hybrid, making the combination much more of an annoyance than a benefit.

So yeah; I think I'm going to be sticking with Windows 7, as whatever ludicrous price is required to upgrade to Windows 8 will not be worth it for a desktop machine.

The only things I really like are the improved performance (startup is very quick) and the image + gestures as a password, but for me usability comes first.

actually i quite like windows 8 being a hybrid. i was using a tablet with win8 and using the metro interface while i am moving around. when i am back at my desk. i dock it and as soon as i dock it with my keyboard and mouse, i could even do programming with it and it is certainly not that far off from a traditional desktop.

having said all that, i wish that the notification center in mountain lion could be copy to windows 8 as once the toast notification is missed on win8, you can never get it back to see what you missed out.
 
I'll also be installing Windows 8 Release Preview onto my Mac. I'll probably get round to that tomorrow or the next day.
 
Windows 8 is a hot mess. Tablet stuff should be left on tablets.

I'm also unsurprised to find that Windows' DPI scaling is still an inconsistent, largely ugly mess, even a whole 7 years after the last time I tried it. I'll be leaving Windows 8 well enough alone on my MBPR until the final is out.
 
actually i quite like windows 8 being a hybrid.
I suppose that's a point, and some of the upcoming/prototype Windows 8 devices seem to be thinking with this in mind with tablets that fit into a more powerful dock for desktop computing, "transformer" style laptop/tablet hybrids and so-on.

Still, it leaves little or no incentive to upgrade if you have a discrete tablet and desktop, as the hybridisation isn't a benefit at all. Designing an OS with future device possibilities in mind is all well and good, but it still needs to work well with what people have now and I don't see that being the case for the majority of users.
 
I have installed windows on my external drive with this guide and is working fine on my pc.

Today I tried to boot from it on my macbook but there isn't an option to choose it when I press the option key. It must be a problem with EFI probably.

Anyone knows how can I solve it?

I am on macbook pro 13 late 2009 running Lion.
 
I have installed windows on my external drive with this guide and is working fine on my pc.

Today I tried to boot from it on my macbook but there isn't an option to choose it when I press the option key. It must be a problem with EFI probably.

Anyone knows how can I solve it?

I am on macbook pro 13 late 2009 running Lion.

I might be wrong on this, but I believe that Macs will not boot to Windows through an external drive.
 
I have it installed on my MacBook Pro with both Parallels and thru bootcamp. I am having small issues with both setups.


With Win8 on Parallels, I am getting slow performance. I just upgraded my RAM from 4GB to 8GB, and the performance increased quite a bit. Would I have better luck running the 32-bit version of Win8 on Parallels? Right now I have the 64-bit and I've heard people had issues with that version in Bootcamp, not sure if the same would apply with Parallels.



As for Win8 (32-bit) in Bootcamp, so far the only issue is that anytime the computer restarts, whether from OS-X or Windows, the computer will load Windows, unless I hold down the Option key. It's like it is set to automatically load Windows with the option of OS-X, instead of the other way around. Other than that it's running great. Super smooth, very quick. Now if only I can figure out how to setup my Airport Express again, I'll be set.



Neither of these are show stoppers, although the one with Parallels kinda is. I might just uninstall that completely being that the Bootcamp install is working better.
 
I have it installed on my MacBook Pro with both Parallels and thru bootcamp. I am having small issues with both setups.


With Win8 on Parallels, I am getting slow performance. I just upgraded my RAM from 4GB to 8GB, and the performance increased quite a bit. Would I have better luck running the 32-bit version of Win8 on Parallels? Right now I have the 64-bit and I've heard people had issues with that version in Bootcamp, not sure if the same would apply with Parallels.



As for Win8 (32-bit) in Bootcamp, so far the only issue is that anytime the computer restarts, whether from OS-X or Windows, the computer will load Windows, unless I hold down the Option key. It's like it is set to automatically load Windows with the option of OS-X, instead of the other way around. Other than that it's running great. Super smooth, very quick. Now if only I can figure out how to setup my Airport Express again, I'll be set.



Neither of these are show stoppers, although the one with Parallels kinda is. I might just uninstall that completely being that the Bootcamp install is working better.

in the bootcamp control panel, you need to select the default start up OS.
 
there is no such option in OS X. correct me if i am wrong.


Do you mean the screen that appears when you start up with the Option key held? I didn't see an option for selecting a default, just the 3 options Mac OS, Windows and Restore. Oh, and to choose a wifi network.
 
Do you mean the screen that appears when you start up with the Option key held? I didn't see an option for selecting a default, just the 3 options Mac OS, Windows and Restore. Oh, and to choose a wifi network.

no. i am referring to the one in windows. there is a control panel for bootcamp at the task bar at the bottom.
 
macbook Air 13" 2011 - trackpad doesn't work at all - only external usb mouse? - show stopper
 
macbook Air 13" 2011 - trackpad doesn't work at all - only external usb mouse? - show stopper

it should work. at least i know it works on my friend mba.

did you install the bootcamp driver properly?


13" mid 2010 per SysInfo - trackpad worked fine. even better after installing bootcamp drivers.

workaround for freezing problem:
http://www.withinwindows.com/2012/0...terfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:
trying tonite - fingers crossed.

i hope that workaround work.
 
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