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At the tech conference All things D, Microsoft gave a small preview of Windows 7 with... multi-touch support.

I can tell you one thing... if Microsoft beats Apple to the punch on this one, Jobs sure wont be happy!

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Cut, Print, Ga...errr..."alternative lifestyle..."....yeah, this is pretty dumb. But lest we forget how many of us Mac enthusiasts were salivating over multi-touch on the Mac? This video just proves my point of how clunky and useless this "technology" is.
 
Let's disregard for a moment any real implementation will happen YEARS after the Apple implementation AND be inferior on release.

Let's disregard for a moment Microsoft is a "copy machine" with a scratched drum.

Let's disregard Microsoft has no "vision thing" overseeing the implementation of the technology.

That said.

Microsoft got its start marketing on an IBM text based OS that was forsaked by them and overtly copied by their EMPLOYEE Bill Gates. No conflict of interest there ?!!?

Rocketman
 
At the tech conference All things D, Microsoft gave a small preview of Windows 7 with... multi-touch support.

I can tell you one thing... if Microsoft beats Apple to the punch on this one, Jobs sure wont be happy!

Click for Link

WWDC should be intresting this year. They should already go ahead and give us a beta preview of some of the features. Just a sneak peek. I'm not going to give a good reason as of why. That's for you to figure out.
 
Ballmer is an idiot

Microsoft doesn't sell any PC's, And by the time windoze 7 comes out, their hardware "partners" will be pre-installing XP service pack 5 on their systems.
 
There's a lot in Windows 7, and our goal's got to be, with our hardware partners, to produce fantastic PCs. ... We'll sell 270m PCs a year, and Apple will sell 10m. Apple is fantastically successful, and so are we.

uhm no you'll sell zero PCs next year. last time i checked you don't make PCs steve... maybe that's why microsoft is in such a rut. balmer doesn't realize what he's actually selling.
 
To my surprise, I was kind of underwhelmed by this demo.

I think it's going to take Apple to bring out the coolness of a multi-touch OS. Then MSFT will copy it in Windows 8.
 
The worlds richest man and his sweaty, gorilla pet demoed the future of Windows using Windows Paint - an application that has barely been updated since Windows 3.0, 17 years ago.

But at least... at the very least they were standing right there watching as they showed the world they just don't get it anymore.
 
MS is doing lots of multi-touch research

Microsoft shows off multitouch sensor prototype

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http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9950674-7.html


That screen is an off-the-shelf Samsung SyncMaster 305T 30" LCD. Above the screen is an infrared webcam that tracks the fingers in real time (much image processing offloaded to the GPU).

Windows Vista is the OS.
 
Call me "traditional," but I would rather manipulate things with a few whips of the finger or mouse instead of using two hands not resting on a surface. Aside from applications on small surfaces (MBA/iPhone), I really think this multitouch is a gimmick (Surface/MultiTouch iMac).
 
*takes cover hearing mac fanboy **** flying over his head*
This isn't going to be good.
 
Hahahaaa..Let's face it. Windows wants to be more Apple-ish.
1st it was Vista with the addition of their own version of widgets and making it supposedly for graphically asthetic.

In the end...its is a RAM and Power hungry machine that well..still hangs
and gets a flu from viruses ...hehehe

Now multitouch? Hehehe...I wonder what's next. But hey! It is still cool technology!

With both windows and apple entering the multi touch race. I bet this is good for consumers as both would wanna improve the tech more and keep prices attractive to seduce us consumers...

hehehehe...Go windows! Go Apple! :D:D
 
Microsoft doesn't sell any PC's, And by the time windoze 7 comes out, their hardware "partners" will be pre-installing XP service pack 5 on their systems.

That's kind of funny because in reality glass or some other more expensive type of screen needed to do multi-touch will keep companies from selling more computers. That or raise the price.

And by the time M$ ships Windows 7 Mac OS XI will be out and have the same multi-touch type interface.

This is more of a hardware thing than any software.

ymmv :)
 
Well it looks like a big competition between Apple and M$. I imagine that Apple will continue to release earlier than M$ and perfect it in the process. But also perfect it into the mind of the consumers so they think the Apple methodology is better for them.

There are a lot of people out there that do not get it, just like they did not get the use of a mouse.

We have seen some of Apple practical applications they need to show more. That tablet must be coming soon.
 
WWDC should be intresting this year. They should already go ahead and give us a beta preview of some of the features. Just a sneak peek. I'm not going to give a good reason as of why. That's for you to figure out.

So, you're saying Apple Touch Tablet at WWDC? Perhaps an unveiling immediately after "giving props" to M$ and their "great new direction"?

Sweet!
 
Apple's not even close to first with multi-touch

i thought Apple patented Multi-Touch?

Also, I would be shocked if Jobs lets Microsoft steal his* user-interface yet again.

when will microsoft stop copying?......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch

"Multi-touch technology dates back to 1982, when the University of Toronto developed the first finger pressure multi-touch display.

The same year, Bell Labs and Murray Hill published what is believed to be the first paper discussing touch-screen based interfaces.

In 1984 Bell Labs engineered a touch screen that could manipulate images. The same year Microsoft began research in the area.

A significant breakthrough occurred in 1991, when Pierre Wellner published a paper on his multi-touch “Digital Desk”, which supported multi-finger and pinching motions."​

25 years of multi-touch history, then the Iphone.



This is more of a hardware thing than any software.

Look back at post 37 to see a Microsoft invention that uses software, a webcam and a standard LCD screen to do multi-touch.

Also note that the demo was done on a standard Dell Latitude XT tablet - nothing special in the hardware.
 
i think jobs is more than aware that as it stands currently, touch as a MAIN feature for a computer is useless

For a personal computer at home, probably. But when I last worked at Chick-fil-A in 2001, they had touch-screen cash registers that were new to me after working at a couple other locations of theirs. These new systems were just single touch, but they were MUCH MUCH MUCH better than having to recall where every darn button on the previous machine was. Just like the iPhone touch buttons are quite simple and explanatory (hit "end call" to end call, etc.), this software was similar back in the day. I know people not as geniusified as me work at fast food places then and now, so multitouch could have huge implications in businesses.

But as you said, it's not really that great as a main feature on your usual PC now. It's great for portables, but most desktop PC stuff needs keyboard/mouse input. I also spent too much time learning how to type 80 wpm on a physical keyboard to be convinced to type on a virtual one on a screen. Keyboards will probably stay physical for desktops, but they will probably get thinner and use OLEDs.
 
If it was Apple, everyone would say it was the greatest, most revolutionary development since the Macintosh...

Including me ;-)

Yes and no. Apple does a lot of cool stuff, and their implementations of Multi-touch are one of those things, but I don't go so far as to say they innovate everything, or everything they do is innovative. I try to be fair and give credit where credit is due, it's just most of the time Apple is ahead on these things...but if Microsoft does come up with something great, I will definitely applaude them, as I am not anti-Microsoft. I do hate Ballmer, though..
 
So, you're saying Apple Touch Tablet at WWDC? Perhaps an unveiling immediately after "giving props" to M$ and their "great new direction"?

Sweet!

I do believe that MIGHT happen. It seems quite right. Talking about the iPhone and the tablet. They are VERY close related.
 
There's a lot in Windows 7, and our goal's got to be, with our hardware partners, to produce fantastic PCs. ... We'll sell 270m PCs a year, and Apple will sell 10m. Apple is fantastically successful, and so are we.
Well this explains a lot...the CEO of Microsoft doesn't even know what the hell he's talking about. Microsoft will sell 270m copies of an operating system. Apple will sell 10m computers. There are an awful lot of assumptions here. First, the enormous (and surely flawed) assumption that Windows 7 will be completed in the next 5 years. Next, that the people who actually make the computers will integrate a multi-touch screen into their computers. Is it really an impressive feature of the operating system if only a small handful of people have access to it? I can't figure out why Microsoft always seems to just be so far off base.
 
you can't hate on Microsoft for making a cool product. anything touch is fun though, of course. i doubt microsoft will make a better user friendly product than apple though.
 
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