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SlaveToSwift said:
Half as many pixels is “way better”? Uh, ok.
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Yeah, resolution isn't everything.
You fireup anything with a dark background and black on the Macbook actually looks gray, the difference is quite striking.
HDR movies look absolutely sublime on the screen, the same for pictures or anything colorful, the screen is a spectacle of color.
Also it doesn't have "half as many pixels".

SlaveToSwift said:
And Geekbench is the standard of CPU benchmarks, it’s been around long before Apple Silicon and does nothing to favor AS over any other CPU. Everyone loves a fair benchmark until they find their favorite CPU does poorly on it.
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It's not the standard at all, it just a popular mainly smartphone benchmark which apple fans like to use when it suits them.
For X86 CPU's Cinebench is a better CPU benchmark, mostly because it fully saturates the CPU cores(even on monster 64 core CPUs) and multi-core scaling is where it should be.

And in your case Geekbench operates your laptop because it throttles do quickly.
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Absolute nonsense, Geebbench doesn't even make the 5800h reach it's max TDP.
 
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SlaveToSwift said:
And OLED with only 400 nits?
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Peak brightness is 600nits buddy, it's VESA CERTIFIED Display HDR True Black 600. Anyway even if it had 400 nits HDR presentation would still be great because of the infinite contrast.

SlaveToSwift said:
If it’s not a toy why is it made out of plastic?
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It's both made out of plastic and metal, like a lot of consumer goods. Stop acting like a child.
 
mi7chy said:
Reflects on Apple if that's the case since they fund it and also provide developers to work on it. Reality is Apple hardware is just underperforming compared to discrete GPUs.

https://www.blender.org/press/apple-joins-blender-development-fund/
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Doesn't matter. Apple said Blender is not optimized for Metal yet. So any benchmark is just running on unoptimized code. Apple never (nor did anyone credible) claimed that the M1 GPUs outperformed any discrete GPUs for anything other than performance per watt. One other place the M1 Ultra does have an advantage in the real world over most discrete GPUs is for tasks that require more than 24 or 32Gb of VRAM.
 
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mi7chy said:
Is it your first time using Macs? Apple 'caffeinate' command-line tool is a work-around for that gimped MacOS behavior so, for example, allows Steam downloads to continue when screen goes to sleep on battery. Otherwise, have to set the screen to never sleep and drain the battery.

https://www.theapplegeek.co.uk/blog/caffeinate
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nah, I got back to a 128 in 1984 and an Apple ][ before that.

Don't need caffeinate, System Preferences > Battery > Battery > Turn off display after..

Downloads will keep going, steam, ssh, ftp, sftp, Transmit, Cyberduck, Arq, the all work for me. Sorry your Mac is broken.
 
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I don't think there's that much to worry about. With Apple, it's one size fits all. With Windows PC's, there's plethora to choose from to fit exactly your needs.

And remember, folks were able to run Windows on their MacBooks for years prior to Apple Silicon, whether easily in virtual machines or natively in BootCamp. So you had the best of both worlds.

That no longer exists, and yes there's ARM betas of Windows 11 but it's not supported by either Microsoft or Parallels.

Yeah, the new MBA will sell well for a while just like the new MBP's did. But if you need a Windows PC, you'll likely still get a Windows PC.
 
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scottjl said:
nah, I got back to a 128 in 1984 and an Apple ][ before that.

Don't need caffeinate, System Preferences > Battery > Battery > Turn off display after..

Downloads will keep going, steam, ssh, ftp, sftp, Transmit, Cyberduck, Arq, the all work for me. Sorry your Mac is broken.
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So, you're admitting you're wrong because I said without setting the screen to never sleep and drain the battery. Caffeinate allows downloads to continue when screen goes to sleep but is a hack job compared to other OS'.

"Apple 'caffeinate' command-line tool is a work-around for that gimped MacOS behavior so, for example, allows Steam downloads to continue when screen goes to sleep on battery. Otherwise, have to set the screen to never sleep and drain the battery."
 
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mi7chy said:
So, you're admitting you're wrong because I said without setting the screen to never sleep and drain the battery. Caffeinate allows downloads to continue when screen goes to sleep but is a hack job compared to other OS'.

"Apple 'caffeinate' command-line tool is a work-around for that gimped MacOS behavior so, for example, allows Steam downloads to continue when screen goes to sleep on battery. Otherwise, have to set the screen to never sleep and drain the battery."
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apparently you have trouble with english.

you want your screen to go to sleep and keep transfers processing? do exactly what i said and you won't need any command line utilities. set it to 1 minute, 10 minutes, whatever your preference is.

i can see why you prefer windows.
 
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scottjl said:
you want your screen to go to sleep and keep transfers processing? do exactly what i said and you won't need any command line utilities. set it to 1 minute, 10 minutes, whatever your preference is.
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Is it your first time using a computer? That's on by default hence why the screen sleeps and stops the download and the reason for 'caffeinate' hack job.
 
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mi7chy said:
Is it your first time using a computer? That's on by default hence why the screen sleeps and stops the download and the reason for 'caffeinate' hack job.
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i'm sorry you have trouble with english. best of luck to you with windows..
 
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I can smell the stench of body odor, fear, and bad ideas from here.
 
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M3gatron said:
Yeah, resolution isn't everything.
You fireup anything with a dark background and black on the Macbook actually looks gray, the difference is quite striking.
HDR movies look absolutely sublime on the screen, the same for pictures or anything colorful, the screen is a spectacle of color.
Also it doesn't have "half as many pixels".
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LOL:

1920 * 1080 = 2,073,600
2560 *1600 = 4,096,000


M3gatron said:
It's not the standard at all, it just a popular mainly smartphone benchmark which apple fans like to use when it suits them.
For X86 CPU's Cinebench is a better CPU benchmark, mostly because it fully saturates the CPU cores(even on monster 64 core CPUs) and multi-core scaling is where it should be.


Absolute nonsense, Geebbench doesn't even make the 5800h reach it's max TDP.
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“As it is, this Ryzen 7 5800H implementation runs at 85-90% of its maximum potential”

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Dell/HP should ditch windows and come up with their own enhanced Linux that doesn’t need people type “apt get” to install a software
 
M3gatron said:
Peak brightness is 600nits buddy, it's VESA CERTIFIED Display HDR True Black 600. Anyway even if it had 400 nits HDR presentation would still be great because of the infinite contrast.


It's both made out of plastic and metal, like a lot of consumer goods. Stop acting like a child.
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Thats' right, its a consumer good, not a professional tool.

Even Apple's cheapest MacBook Air is entirely aluminum body. That's a pro quality build with pro quality trackpad instead of plastic toy. That's another reason to buy MacBooks, tougher, better build quality.
 
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M3gatron said:
Yeah, resolution isn't everything.
You fireup anything with a dark background and black on the Macbook actually looks gray, the difference is quite striking.
HDR movies look absolutely sublime on the screen, the same for pictures or anything colorful, the screen is a spectacle of color.
Also it doesn't have "half as many pixels".


It's not the standard at all, it just a popular mainly smartphone benchmark which apple fans like to use when it suits them.
For X86 CPU's Cinebench is a better CPU benchmark, mostly because it fully saturates the CPU cores(even on monster 64 core CPUs) and multi-core scaling is where it should be.


Absolute nonsense, Geebbench doesn't even make the 5800h reach it's max TDP.
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Geekbench saturates the CPU cores too. Whatever it's running isn't sharing any memory between cores, so there's no bottleneck and no testing of RAM speeds. It also doesn't test the GPU at all, so a chip with integrated graphics isn't going to reach max TDP.
 
mi7chy said:
Bye Karen. Let us know if you need computer tutoring.
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yeah, you definitely have problems with english, you don't even know the proper context of 'karen'. lol but hey at least you're trying!

I'll try and help you out here. A "Karen" is a woman who doesn't get her outrageous demands met at an establishment like a store, restaurant or Starbucks. So she demands to speak with "someone in charge" like a manager or supervisor. she whines and cries and then is told to go f*ck herself.

computer tutoring is something I attempted to do to you, explain a basic operation of MacOS. unfortunately you're still not "getting it." which is sad, but since you've said repeatedly you're moving on to windows it's no big loss. but for someone who's been a member here almost as long as I have, you'd think you've picked up even the basics of MacOS. since you don't seem to be able to you're what refer to as a "hopeless case."

bless your heart!
 
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mi7chy said:
Geekbench is for amateurs. Nobody goes to a store and asks for a new computer that runs Geekbench well. Pros prefer real workloads.
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Yeah they do, but when numbers aren't available for the real workloads for each computer you're considering, benchmarks are all you've got. I've bought data processing machines before, anticipating mix of highly-scalable CPU workloads and those that bottleneck on the RAM or disk, so those CPU benchmarks were a pretty good indication if what I'd get IRL for half of the pipeline. For the other half I had to go RAM/disk bandwidth and IOps, but mostly my gut. Got two beefy but older 32-core Xeon servers for the scalable parts and a smaller but more modern 6-core i7 machine for the IO-heavy parts.
 
If anyone in the Windows market needs to step up it’s Microsoft. I don’t mind Windows and use it daily but it’s not enjoyable to me and so many settings upon settings it gets exhausting and why are there two GUI’s for settings still!? Additionally, if the Surface lineup was better I would be all for it but the Pro tablets require far too many accessories with zero tablet experience so you might as well get their laptop version but then you deal with poor build quality, abysmal battery life, and all those annoying battery modes. Why should my experience change because I’m on battery power? It’s 2022 and this crap has been going on for decades, make something more efficient already or a smart OS. A laptop that gets 4hrs of battery life on “balanced” mode with an integrated gpu is absurd. It’s like driving an 18-wheeler to the grocery store…it’s not even worth going if I have to navigate this big ass inconvenient equipment just to get some pickles.
 
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sudo-sandwich said:
Yeah they do, but when numbers aren't available for the real workloads for each computer you're considering, benchmarks are all you've got.
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That's far fetched. People get a loaner or buy one to test real workloads then either buy more or return.
 
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